Jared Goff on The Pivot

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I think regardless of wins the rest of the season they draft a QB this year. Two first rounders ours looking like middle of the round and theirs should get them their guy with a good QB draft this year. Even if they win out which with that defense will never happen.
Maybe but the Lions were leading the league in scoring until they lost Brown and Swift
 

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And just to add - the Lions really need to focus on defense in this year's draft
 

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The Lions problem has been their defense (34 ppg allowed, last in the league by a good margin).
That is insanely bad... like record breaking I am wondering? I went and looked at the last ten years and the last place team in ppg allowed usually hovers just under 30. The next closest ironically was the 2020 Lions at 32.4.
 

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The Lions problem has been their defense (34 ppg allowed, last in the league by a good margin). But that offense has good pieces and if they can't win games they will start questioning whether Goff is good enough.

Imagine if he had a top 5 defense. Or even a #1 overall! Not like he hasn't had one of those before.

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That is insanely bad... like record breaking I am wondering? I went and looked at the last ten years and the last place team in ppg allowed usually hovers just under 30. The next closest ironically was the 2020 Lions at 32.4.
Yeah they have holes in the defense but I also think they need to fire their DC. Been saying that for a while now. Great guy I am sure but he is not up to snuff calling it.

If Campbell isn't decisive he's going to be the next coach to fail in Detroit.
 

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I just read the Goff had two fumbles yesterday in addition to two interceptions. Yikes.
 

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And just to add - the Lions really need to focus on defense in this year's draft
I just read the Goff had two fumbles yesterday in addition to two interceptions. Yikes.
Pretty much what Stafford had when we played the boys. Their defense is top notched, best in the league as I said prior to our game with the boys. Some people replied saying the niners were the best. The niners D hasn't looked that good the last couple of weeks.
 

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Yeah once the Cowboys got ahead, they stampeded Goff and he doesn't do well with pressure.
 

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Apparently Dan Campbell has said if you can't hold on to the football you can't play for us without naming names.
So I guess Matt Stafford couldn't play for Dan Campbell either.

He has the same number of fumbles as Jared Goff in 2022
 

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So I guess Matt Stafford couldn't play for Dan Campbell either.

He has the same number of fumbles as Jared Goff in 2022
It's about wins and right now the Lions only have one. It isn't on one person, however, if the Lions continue to lose, they will be drafting in the upper tier and thus IMO, they will draft a QB. Now the WR core has been hit with injuries similar to the Rams OL, so you have to factor that into your evaluation too.
 

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It's about wins and right now the Lions only have one. It isn't on one person, however, if the Lions continue to lose, they will be drafting in the upper tier and thus IMO, they will draft a QB. Now the WR core has been hit with injuries similar to the Rams OL, so you have to factor that into your evaluation too.
Giving up 34 points a game - you are not going to win many games
 

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Giving up 34 points a game - you are not going to win many games
The defense has been playing well lately and played well against Dallas. Lions just turned the ball over too many times. It was Williams too at the goal line who fumbled going into the endzone.
 

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The defense has been playing well lately and played well against Dallas. Lions just turned the ball over too many times. It was Williams too at the goal line who fumbled going into the endzone.

I don't know that the Lions defense deserves to be let off the hook just yet.....
 

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The defense has been playing well lately and played well against Dallas. Lions just turned the ball over too many times. It was Williams too at the goal line who fumbled going into the endzone.
Dallas has a tough defense. How well did we do?

And giving up 29 points to a 3rd string QB for the Patriots is not doing well lately.

In addition, Dak was extremely rusty in the first half and finally started playing well in the 2nd half.
 

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Dallas has a tough defense. How well did we do?

And giving up 29 points to a 3rd string QB for the Patriots is not doing well lately.

In addition, Dak was extremely rusty in the first half and finally started playing well in the 2nd half.
Fair enough, we will see how the Lions play at home against Miami on Sunday.
 

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Fair enough, we will see how the Lions play at home against Miami on Sunday.
If Goff has both Swift and Brown back, they should do a heck of a lot better.

Goff to Brown is a poor man's version of Stafford to Kupp

But still extremely valuable for Goff
 

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So I guess Matt Stafford couldn't play for Dan Campbell either.

He has the same number of fumbles as Jared Goff in 2022
It is hilarious that you still think the two are remotely comparable.