Is this Cooper Kupp's last season with the Rams?

[Flatlyner]

I was hoping they'd renegotiate his salary. He has to know he's not gonna get paid what he's getting paid here unless he's traded and even then I would suspect they would also want to restructure. I'm sure it's something a suiter would mention.

Kind of sucks that he was the one who came out and said it and not the rams. But until the deal is done he's still a ram. I don't see anyone beating down the door to grab him for next year.

I do. Commodes, Chargers, Giants to name a few that are desperate for WR's, especially vet WR's with great hands and route running. Not to mention, its not gonna cost them much of anything to acquire him, just cap space.

They aren't gonna get much for him. Its all about cap relief. And I doubt its to free up money for a guy like Tee Higgins. He's gonna command a 30 mil plus deal. They will need a WR2 to pair with Puka. Would not be surprised if they bring back Robinson on another one year deal. Don't see Tutu as a legit WR2. I do see them drafting a receiver somewhere in the first two days of the draft.

Yes, considering they have only 2 WR's currently under contract for next season (minus Kupp)

 

[dieterbrock]

It's funny to me that the Chargers are a fit with Ladd Mconkey filling a Puka type role. So if they can work the two, and the Rams cant?
One thing is for sure, wherever Kupp goes that team is going to get him on a rampage to prove the Rams made a mistake

 

[Mojo Ram]

If Kupp plays a full season for anyone the rest of his career I’d be very surprised. Not that he doesn’t have value, he does. He’ll be missed in many ways, I just don’t think it’ll be his production on field.

JMO

 

[Allen2McVay]

Yes, considering they have only 2 WR's currently under contract for next season (minus Kupp)

OK ... If you are going to ignore and disregard Drake Stoops, I don't know what we are going to do with you.

 

[dang]

Ehh. It was time. I’ll never forget his 2021 season. But he’s been hurt constantly and averaged about 10 ypc. After his injury in 2022 I knew he would never be the same again.

Kupp was on his way to another banner season in 2022 before his injury. In 9 games he had 75recs/812yds/6TDs. So I doubt anyone knew he would never be the same again. But his decline in 2023 with the emergence of Nacua was a sign that continued into 2024. IMO (barring serious injury) he will still be a solid WR2 AND is still the best onfield mentor in the league. Unfortunately his pay is aligned with a WR1.

 

[dang]

If this backfires, and they get no one notable in FA to help Puka/Def we will be 5-12 6-11. Then its safe to say Snead and Mcvay should be fired. There has to be big reason to auto kick Kupp to the curb after all hes done.

If we go all in, and win a Super Bowl next year, it would sting less! We would loved to do it again with Kupp!

I am curious. How long have you been a Rams fan?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

el chapo.... you're dreaming...

too much salary...

and what i want to know is how do guys who sign these contracts, don't see the writing on the wall?

go rams

slo

Hey, I love dreaming. Shit I dream up all kinds if scenarios cuz I definitely don't make any decisions and it ain't my money lol. We could get a nice pick if we pick up a huge chunk of his salary. This is why trying to trade Kupp is gonna take some work even if the Rams are motivated to do it.

 

[pvtdragon39]

I am curious. How long have you been a Rams fan?

For one why does it matter how long anyone has been a fan?

We lose Kupp, we are going to lose, unless we get a powerhouse replacment. Puka, D-rob and JW as WR? What if one gets hurt? Who is replacing them? Puka is gonna get 100% of the attention and the only other guy that could do anything that Puka can would have been Kupp. Puka will not have Kupp blocking and pulling 2-3 defenders so he can get open. He is not in decline, He was assigned to be a fullback for Puka, and no plays drawn up for him for that reason. We are going to have to pay his bonus eitherway so a savings for what, 5mil cap, and lose him for a 7th rounder?

If this is not for a huge move, then its does not make sense at all.

 

[PhillyRam]

For one why does it matter how long anyone has been a fan?

We lose Kupp, we are going to lose, unless we get a powerhouse replacment. Puka, D-rob and JW as WR? What if one gets hurt? Who is replacing them? Puka is gonna get 100% of the attention and the only other guy that could do anything that Puka can would have been Kupp. Puka will not have Kupp blocking and pulling 2-3 defenders so he can get open. He is not in decline, He was assigned to be a fullback for Puka, and no plays drawn up for him for that reason. We are going to have to pay his bonus eitherway so a savings for what, 5mil cap, and lose him for a 7th rounder?

If this is not for a huge move, then its does not make sense at all.

Think of it like the Ramsey situation. Now Ramsey was a more valuable asset, and their cap situation was more dire, but they moved him and it was a smart move as it freed up cap space over the next few years and they moved on to build a younger defense.

With Kupp, they dead cap this year with maybe only $7M in savings this year. However, it cleans up their cap for 26' & 27', when they will need cap $$ to pay Puka, Avila, Turner, Young, Kinchens, Fiske, and maybe guys like Lake or Dotson, etc...

 

[Cjcinec]

Kupp does so much more without the ball that without him this team would not be nearly as good on offense.

Or they could actually be much better. Puka is a younger and faster version of Kupp. Having two of the same type of player on the field was redundant. McVay touched on trying to get more versatile on offense.. a receiver with a different skill set could be the answer.

 

[Cjcinec]

For one why does it matter how long anyone has been a fan?

We lose Kupp, we are going to lose, unless we get a powerhouse replacment. Puka, D-rob and JW as WR? What if one gets hurt? Who is replacing them? Puka is gonna get 100% of the attention and the only other guy that could do anything that Puka can would have been Kupp. Puka will not have Kupp blocking and pulling 2-3 defenders so he can get open. He is not in decline, He was assigned to be a fullback for Puka, and no plays drawn up for him for that reason. We are going to have to pay his bonus eitherway so a savings for what, 5mil cap, and lose him for a 7th rounder?

If this is not for a huge move, then its does not make sense at all.

If you watched this season you’d realize Puka got most of the defensive attention already. Kupp was being shut down by man coverage and his routes were shallow. He had zero burst and his numbers were terrible.

 

[RAMSinLA]

Or they could actually be much better. Puka is a younger and faster version of Kupp. Having two of the same type of player on the field was redundant. McVay touched on trying to get more versatile on offense.. a receiver with a different skill set could be the answer.

Yeah you're right, it will be interesting to see where they go from here in the WR room.

 

[OntarioRam]

I still think he has several good years left if you limit his reps somewhat and exercise load management so that he can stray fresh and healthy.

Look at this tape this year until about December. Very productive when he suited up. Great numbers for someone that was not the focal point of the offense competing with Puka and KW for that. Great routes. Great blocking. Lots of high difficulty catches. Routinely was open.

I am convinced Kupp was dinged up and that is why his play collapsed literally overnight. Age related declines are a real thing. But literally overnight that drastically.... I'm skeptical. Which is why I still wish they tried to re-structucture. Make the cap hit managable and i don't mind increasing the contract duration. I don't think Kupp is close to finished. Maybe I am just a homer. I don't know. Time will tell. Ramsey. Woods. Gurley. OBJ. Cooks. Watkins. Miller. Goff. We have moved off big names before. This is the first time I think turning the page instead of exploring options might be a mistake.

 

[Merlin]

One thing is for sure, wherever Kupp goes that team is going to get him on a rampage to prove the Rams made a mistake

Certainly possible. Question is how many games can he sustain it. Love the player and hate to see him go but I don't think he's going to pull a Bettis or anything.

 

[dang]

For one why does it matter how long anyone has been a fan?

We lose Kupp, we are going to lose, unless we get a powerhouse replacment. Puka, D-rob and JW as WR? What if one gets hurt? Who is replacing them? Puka is gonna get 100% of the attention and the only other guy that could do anything that Puka can would have been Kupp. Puka will not have Kupp blocking and pulling 2-3 defenders so he can get open. He is not in decline, He was assigned to be a fullback for Puka, and no plays drawn up for him for that reason. We are going to have to pay his bonus eitherway so a savings for what, 5mil cap, and lose him for a 7th rounder?

If this is not for a huge move, then its does not make sense at all.

Your statement that if personnel changes lead to a down season (like 5-12 or 6-11) McVay and Snead should be fired. It makes me think you may not have been a Rams fan for an extended period of time. I’ve been a Rams fan for so long that a down season (while not fun) is a small price to pay for keeping McVay and Snead at the helm for as long as they will have us. I don’t always understand but appreciate bold moves made by this regime since they took over in 2017.

 

[pvtdragon39]

Your statement that if personnel changes lead to a down season (like 5-12 or 6-11) McVay and Snead should be fired. It makes me think you may not have been a Rams fan for an extended period of time. I’ve been a Rams fan for so long that a down season (while not fun) is a small price to pay for keeping McVay and Snead at the helm for as long as they will have us. I don’t always understand but appreciate bold moves made by this regime since they took over in 2017.

You can think what you want! I remember Brett Rypien's uncle on the team if that says anything when I was a Kid and Getting our asses beat by SF. Issac is what made me a fan watching with my uncle tho.

Im not sold on Nacua being out there as the Sole star, If hes Wr1 fine. He needs a Star Wr2 (which what Kupp turned into) with him The Offense was Bad! We won because of our defense. Nacua was at the Helm of it. Yes hes good but cant do it himself! We win when the ball is back and forth with both of them. We started to win when Kupp came back in week 5 in 2023 and went on a run. Same thing this year. We were 2-3 with Puka alone! We have maybe a .500 record with Kupp alone. Both well like 12-5

Its not Kupps fault he is not producing if they just keep throwing it 10 times to Nacua all day and be told to block because of the TE failures. So hes declining, no! Thats on Mcvay and the OC! Nacua had 990 Yards on the season with 160 Targets, Kupp had 710 with 100 Targets. Last 6 games of the season, 5 those games he was in blocking hell and had 3 or less targets in 4 of those games. Its kind of Funny that Most of our games where we had 21 or more points Kupp was targeted over 6 times! 23.7 Points a Game! 14.6 When Not Targeted 6 Times or more!

Kupp is a great blocker, but should not have been blocking the entire game/everygame. JW should be doing that! Kupp Must have Done something to Piss off Stafford or Mcvay to have him thrown to the curb! Very disrespectful to Kupp honestly! Keeping Kupp should be a priority if they want to win. This does not make sense at all.

 

[pvtdragon39]

If you watched this season you’d realize Puka got most of the defensive attention already. Kupp was being shut down by man coverage and his routes were shallow. He had zero burst and his numbers were terrible.

I did watch this season and I seen countless times Kupp WIDE OPEN for 20-30 yards , but thrown to Puka. I seen Kupp Blocking all game and getting tired out because TE/Oline Continued to Fail. His numbers were terrible because he wasnt targeted, and was Fullback assignment 2nd half of the season.

 

[pvtdragon39]

Or they could actually be much better. Puka is a younger and faster version of Kupp. Having two of the same type of player on the field was redundant. McVay touched on trying to get more versatile on offense.. a receiver with a different skill set could be the answer.

We are 12-5 with both on the field, with only 1 we are a losing team and under .500. We only started to win WHEN Kupp got back in the lineup both years.