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I think it was Parcells that said "you are what your record says you are." In Goff's case, I see it more as "you are who you play like."
Here's a reminder that elite players do elite things during important games and in the case of QB's (they) step up during times of necessity, they inspire and lead by example. Statistics never tell the whole story, put up a set of numbers and a good statistician will develop 2 or 3 opposing conclusions.
From http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...y-on-rams-woes-weve-got-to-figure-it-out-fast
>>Jared Goff and company compiled 413 total yards in Sunday night's surprising loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, but averaged a pedestrian 5.6 yards per play, finished 4 for 12 on third downs and committed three costly turnovers.
Goff's struggles, which continued Sunday evening, have been most notable over the last few weeks. The Rams quarterback and one-time MVP candidate has thrown more picks in the three games since L.A.'s bye (7) than in his 11 prior games (6). Goff missed many open receivers Sunday, especially in the red zone, and made a critical error in the third quarter when he threw a sloppy pick after fumbling the snap and nearly falling on the ball.
Following the loss, Rams coach Sean McVay expressed confidence in the shaky Goff, but admitted the quarterback needs to play better<<
What else could he say?
Playing poorly for a game with numerous team injuries or other un-for-seen circumstances is one thing. But put two or three poor games together and a pattern begins to emerge . In Goff's case and this is just my opinion, I've always considered him a "tweener". This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, suffice it to say that last season may well have been closer to an accurate evaluation of Goff's abilities when he was rated around 13 or 14th.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I generally let my eyes tell me whether a player is doing well or not. I/we could go down the list of Goff's limitations, strengths and weaknesses, but what's the point? Some would agree and others disagree, it's all opinion anyway.....EXCEPT the score and standings (don't forget Parcells).
I will make one comment concerning Goff......I'm growing a little tired of hearing how Goff stays so cool & steady despite adversity and all that. Yeah great, I look down the bench and see this guy with a blank vapid look on his face. I don't know about you but that doesn't give me much confidence, I'd rather see him pacing the bench encouraging his O line or something. Perhaps getting a little pissed off and angry might wake him up from his coma!!
In any event, Goff is who he is, he wasn't my choice, but I accepted him as part of the team regardless of my opinions. This team has holes and depth issues, I had hoped that they'd stay healthy long enough not to get exposed this season but cracks are appearing on both sides of the wall and ball.
So to answer my own question.....no, Goff is not elite, not even close. Heck, there are perhaps 2 or 3 rookie QB's that look closer to elite than Goff does. But even they likely suffer from the same ratings malady as Goff, specifically a very limited quantity of "number sets" and "time periods". Goff (assuming McVay sticks around) is above average when protected. Generally speaking the current rules favor the big, strong, mobile and accurate QB's, rather than the pure almost stationary pocket passer....... Well at least Goff's got one of those qualities (most of the time), oh and he's tall (rather than big, strong or mobile).
These last 3 weeks are not all on Goff by any means, but he carries the largest share of responsibility, IMO.
Here's a reminder that elite players do elite things during important games and in the case of QB's (they) step up during times of necessity, they inspire and lead by example. Statistics never tell the whole story, put up a set of numbers and a good statistician will develop 2 or 3 opposing conclusions.
From http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...y-on-rams-woes-weve-got-to-figure-it-out-fast
>>Jared Goff and company compiled 413 total yards in Sunday night's surprising loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, but averaged a pedestrian 5.6 yards per play, finished 4 for 12 on third downs and committed three costly turnovers.
Goff's struggles, which continued Sunday evening, have been most notable over the last few weeks. The Rams quarterback and one-time MVP candidate has thrown more picks in the three games since L.A.'s bye (7) than in his 11 prior games (6). Goff missed many open receivers Sunday, especially in the red zone, and made a critical error in the third quarter when he threw a sloppy pick after fumbling the snap and nearly falling on the ball.
Following the loss, Rams coach Sean McVay expressed confidence in the shaky Goff, but admitted the quarterback needs to play better<<
What else could he say?
Playing poorly for a game with numerous team injuries or other un-for-seen circumstances is one thing. But put two or three poor games together and a pattern begins to emerge . In Goff's case and this is just my opinion, I've always considered him a "tweener". This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, suffice it to say that last season may well have been closer to an accurate evaluation of Goff's abilities when he was rated around 13 or 14th.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I generally let my eyes tell me whether a player is doing well or not. I/we could go down the list of Goff's limitations, strengths and weaknesses, but what's the point? Some would agree and others disagree, it's all opinion anyway.....EXCEPT the score and standings (don't forget Parcells).
I will make one comment concerning Goff......I'm growing a little tired of hearing how Goff stays so cool & steady despite adversity and all that. Yeah great, I look down the bench and see this guy with a blank vapid look on his face. I don't know about you but that doesn't give me much confidence, I'd rather see him pacing the bench encouraging his O line or something. Perhaps getting a little pissed off and angry might wake him up from his coma!!
In any event, Goff is who he is, he wasn't my choice, but I accepted him as part of the team regardless of my opinions. This team has holes and depth issues, I had hoped that they'd stay healthy long enough not to get exposed this season but cracks are appearing on both sides of the wall and ball.
So to answer my own question.....no, Goff is not elite, not even close. Heck, there are perhaps 2 or 3 rookie QB's that look closer to elite than Goff does. But even they likely suffer from the same ratings malady as Goff, specifically a very limited quantity of "number sets" and "time periods". Goff (assuming McVay sticks around) is above average when protected. Generally speaking the current rules favor the big, strong, mobile and accurate QB's, rather than the pure almost stationary pocket passer....... Well at least Goff's got one of those qualities (most of the time), oh and he's tall (rather than big, strong or mobile).
These last 3 weeks are not all on Goff by any means, but he carries the largest share of responsibility, IMO.
