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Mojo Ram

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People always conveniently forget that Goff led the league in turnovers for two years before we got rid of him.
Goff with solid protection is very good.
Goff under pressure is not so good.
“Yeah but…[insert blame on someone or something else]…”

To answer the OP’s question, I believe it would have just delayed the inevitable. McVay wanted a better QB with an elite processing brain, an elite arm, better improv skills and that Alpha mentality.
 

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Wow, quiet isn’t it! That we have been reduced to discussing this, again and again :)

Belichick had his number after the Bears game. Goff was late on two reads that would have been easy TDs. We abandoned the running game. Gurley was a shadow of the player. All three meant we lost the game
 

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I remember a close game at Seattle and on 3rd down Goff escaped the pocket and was scrambling and slid down a yard short of first down. The camera crew quickly swithched to McVay and he looked like his head was going to explode. Plays like that I think McVay realized he needed a QB that has some dog in him,enter Mathew Stafford.
 
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I remember a close game at Seattle and on 3rd down Goff escaped the pocket and was scrambling and slid down a yard short of first down. The camera crew quickly swithched to McVay and he looked like his head was going to explode. Plays like that I think McVay realized he needed a QB that has some dog in him,enter Mathew Stafford.
Once Goff lost confidence in himself, he started to do stupid plays.

I was extremely disappointed in Goff not having the willpower to believe in himself.

It was a good thing that Goff and McVay went their separate ways.
 

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Wow, quiet isn’t it! That we have been reduced to discussing this, again and again :)

Belichick had his number after the Bears game. Goff was late on two reads that would have been easy TDs. We abandoned the running game. Gurley was a shadow of the player. All three meant we lost the game
And when Gurley ripped off his best run of the day, taking the ball well into Fraudulents territory, the zebras made what Tony Romo described as, "not a call I would have made" and nullified it. ne Fraudulents, indeed.
 

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I remember a close game at Seattle and on 3rd down Goff escaped the pocket and was scrambling and slid down a yard short of first down. The camera crew quickly swithched to McVay and he looked like his head was going to explode. Plays like that I think McVay realized he needed a QB that has some dog in him,enter Mathew Stafford.
I believe it was during his first season with the kittens when they were running out of time and running the two-minute offense. GOOF left the pocket and ran for the sideline to stop the clock, burning more time than simply throwing the ball away would have. Such a putz.
 

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Is there any evidence of Goff saying that though? I remember the rumor of him saying he wanted to "pipe" her, but..... Dude...... Who wouldn't

I saw the same post below back then and it was being laughed at on many sports shows. That has to make it true... right? LOL

I think it happened simply because Goff didn't deny it and I didn't see any of his teammates come out with denials either. Plus, like you said, who wouldn't want to. But... wording it that way and putting it out there in writing (text) is not a decision that I want my team's QB making. I would have thought way worse things in my mind about Veronica, but even at a young age I knew better than to disrespect another guy's serious relationship. Especially in writing. Thank God we didn't have camera phones and the internet when I was a teenager though.

I always supported Goff when he was a Ram, but I also had a lack of confidence in his decision making that lingered in my head. His chill attitude started to look like a lack of ambition and fire to me as seasons went by.

I'm staying with the belief that Goff sent that text for now... but who really knows.


 

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had nothing to do with goff's talent or ability...

had everything to do with goff saying he would fuc# his GF....

you can't have that kind of shit if you're the leader... goff had to go...

stafford timing was pure luck for the rams...

go rams

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Goff was immature in many ways but he seems to have made good. Top 5-7 NFL QB set for life financially. Well respected in Detroit. And a 9.9999 wife (I believe there is no such thing as a perfect 10).
 

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Just explain Stafford in 2022. Sometimes things out of a person's control can really screw with their ability to produce.
I don’t feel like I need to explain a down year for Stafford and the team in general. 5 wins says it all.

Stafford is tough…but to put ‘22 into my hypothetical perspective, I doubt Goff misses 9 games if he was on that team. I’ve always said he can take a hit with the best of them. I also believe that if he started all 17, he implodes and might win 6 games.

He’s just not the guy i want when things get rough or in the biggest games.
 

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People always conveniently forget that Goff led the league in turnovers for two years before we got rid of him.
Goff with solid protection is very good.
Goff under pressure is not so good.
Conversely, Stafford led the league in INT and they still won a SB
Turnovers werent Goff's issue, he just didnt have that killer instinct that Stafford has
Not many do
Would have loved to have beaten the Pats in the SB but all things considered it worked out best the way it did
Goff hit his absolute ceiling during the 2018 season, the KC masterpiece the final bow
He's never been near that level ever since, never will again
 

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I don’t feel like I need to explain a down year for Stafford and the team in general. 5 wins says it all.

Stafford is tough…but to put ‘22 into my hypothetical perspective, I doubt Goff misses 9 games if he was on that team. I’ve always said he can take a hit with the best of them. I also believe that if he started all 17, he implodes and might win 6 games.

He’s just not the guy i want when things get rough or in the biggest games.
Oh I have never stated that Goff is better than Stafford - just saying Goff lost his confidence because of a terrible center.

He would never have won us the superbowl in 2021 even with the better center. And I doubt he wins 3 games with that OL in 2022.

But Stafford also had his issues with that OL. He was better than Goff would be though. And Stafford never lost his confidence. He was still the guy even when we had early OL issues in both 2023 and 2024.
 

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I believe it was during his first season with the kittens when they were running out of time and running the two-minute offense. GOOF left the pocket and ran for the sideline to stop the clock, burning more time than simply throwing the ball away would have. Such a putz.
Yeah, that first season with the Lions and Anthony Lynn as the OC was really bad for him. Didn't he burn a 4th down by clocking the football or something too (Actually, I think he threw the ball away).

Ben Johnson Ben Johnson Ben Johnson Ben Johnson... but now that he's had a couple years under him, it will be interesting to see if he can retain the muscle memory (mental memory) of what he's been able to do as a drop back passer in that offense.