This must be where Nate got his inspiration from:
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Greatest Boxers and Their Times
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That was my guy in the 80s. Thomas Hit Man Fucking Hearns.
If he only had a chin he would have been the best of the 80s Welter-Middle weights.
Better than Sugar Ray, Better than Hagler. He was doing great against both of those guys, then 'dink'. On the chin, legs got wobbly and it was going downhill. But man could that guy punch.
That Duran knockout was one of the best one punch knockouts ever.
Sometimes when I am bored I watch early Tyson knockouts on U Tube. Some of these guys were WAY bigger and did not take Miker seriously. But when they first came together and they guy feels the first solid Tyson punch, the look on his face immediately changes to the 'what did I get myself into" look.
I seen him knock some guy out with a chest punch !
70s and 80s boxing was great.
If he only had a chin he would have been the best of the 80s Welter-Middle weights.
Better than Sugar Ray, Better than Hagler. He was doing great against both of those guys, then 'dink'. On the chin, legs got wobbly and it was going downhill. But man could that guy punch.
That Duran knockout was one of the best one punch knockouts ever.
Sometimes when I am bored I watch early Tyson knockouts on U Tube. Some of these guys were WAY bigger and did not take Miker seriously. But when they first came together and they guy feels the first solid Tyson punch, the look on his face immediately changes to the 'what did I get myself into" look.
I seen him knock some guy out with a chest punch !
70s and 80s boxing was great.
Boxing was great. I have no interest anymore.
I don't think there will ever be a better time than Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Norton. But I lost interest after Jimmy Young was robbed after he totally outclassed Ali. Just didn't have knockout power but he outscored him for the entire fight.
When you're hitting youtube for fun, re-watch Alexis Arguello/Aaron Pryor I
That first round was like out of a movie
"The was a deep dish beauty of a right." For some reason, I'm ordering a pizza now.
I feel the Landman thread is going off track but for a valid thread topic of its own. So I’m moving those posts here.
I put up a poll and I’m sure I left a few off. I did a little boxing as a kid in the 70s and was really into what I feel was the best era in boxing history- the 70s-80s.
Boxing was hugely popular and I credit Don the fucking hairdo King for its demise. Golden Boy tried to go up against him but just didn’t have the moxy to do it.
Anyway, I always loved Leonard and Holyfield. Those two are probably my favorites all time. The Leonard/Hagler/Herns era was an amazing time. Then there was the Holyfield v Qawi war - EPIC!!!
Boxing was hugely popular and I credit Don the fucking hairdo King for its demise. Golden Boy tried to go up against him but just didn’t have the moxy to do it.
Anyway, I always loved Leonard and Holyfield. Those two are probably my favorites all time. The Leonard/Hagler/Herns era was an amazing time. Then there was the Holyfield v Qawi war - EPIC!!!
BTW… Honorable mention to Ray Boom Boom Mancini. What a brawler. It was tragic how his career pretty much ended. That 15 round brawl with Du Ku Kim was one of the most amazing fights I have ever witnessed. Unfortunately, Kim didn’t make it out alive. He was a true warrior.
I literally cannot believe that Frank Bruno has been left from the list. Absolute travesty.
I had to leave some off the list or it would have been a page long. I also left Lenix Lewis off the list and he was arguably a better boxer than Bruno - even though Bruno was WAY more fun to watch. Bruno always seemed to come out like a house on fire only to fade about mid fight and only managed to keep his one title for a few months if I recall.
Very good fighter though.
SteezyEndo
The Immaculate Exception
I voted for Iron Mike, but I would of voted BHop or Arturo Gatti if they were added. 2 of my other favorites in the 90’s early 2000’s.
I was kidding re Bruno. He was pretty average but a cult hero here and he lived just round the corner from me when I grew up. Lennox Lewis on the other hand was very good. He beat Bruno in Cardiff. Not sure he should be on your list though. Joe Calzaghe was very good, again maybe not good enough for the list. Boxing was great, ruined by promotors and all the different promotions though.
Great thread!!
Aaron Pryor is criminally under rated
Mickey Ward/Arturo Gatti triology was the end of boxing for me
Aaron Pryor is criminally under rated
Mickey Ward/Arturo Gatti triology was the end of boxing for me
I liked watching Bruno fight though. At least generally for the first few rounds. I love a guy coming out and swinging for the fence.
I forget why I didn’t like Pryor. Maybe something he did or said. But yeah… one hell of a fighter. Just so many that really could be on that list for different reasons. Arturo as well.
fearsomefour
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fearsomefour
Legend
So many great boxers and boxers I followed and were fans of.
Many of the ones listed.
Arturo Gatti was a warrior. Had more guts than skill at times but just tough as nails.
Unfortunately, his son just met the same fate he did.
I really enjoyed Mayweather Jr. I know everyone is supposed to hate him, but, he was interesting to me because of how he changed his style. In his earlier days he would brawl and was an aggressive offensive fighter. He developed an issue with breaking his hands. So, after it happened a few times, he changed his style and became perhaps the best defensive fighter in the world. His style may been boring to some folks but I think he was a masterful fighter. I knew a guy here in Reno who helped train him for a stretch of time. He said he worked tremendously hard and was ultra focused....but, also, like any good promoter, did everything he could to lean things in his own favor.
Holyfield, in his later years, say....after mid 30s was sort of a dirty fighter. Lost a lot of respect for him actually. But, unbelievable heart and desire. One of those rare guys who started as a light heavy and went on to dominate the heavyweight division.
Pernell Whitaker, Sugar Ray Leonard, Juan Manuel Marquez, Bernard Hopkins.....truly a masterful boxer who fought up and down the weights divisions and defended his Middleweight Title 20 times, which is a record, Roy Jones Jr, Joe Calzaghe, Manny Pacquiao, James Toney, Julio Cesar Chavez, Hagler, Larry Holmes, Duran, Foreman.....the list goes on and on. SO many great fighters I remember seeing. Left off the ones that were before my time really.
Plenty of excellent current boxers as well....Canelo, Terrence Crawford is a classic, Tank Davis, Vasiliy Lomachenko is one of the better boxers Ive ever seen, in the heavyweight division Usyk is an excellent, excellent boxer that would have had success in any era.
Anyway.....looking at current rankings there are very few Americans listed in most divisions. Almost none in the heavyweight division. Usyk has risen to the top and relatively "small" 6' 3" in the super giant division heavyweight boxing has morphed into.
MMA has taken over and I get it.
But, I still prefer boxing.
I would love to see it have a sort of revival in America.
Many of the ones listed.
Arturo Gatti was a warrior. Had more guts than skill at times but just tough as nails.
Unfortunately, his son just met the same fate he did.
I really enjoyed Mayweather Jr. I know everyone is supposed to hate him, but, he was interesting to me because of how he changed his style. In his earlier days he would brawl and was an aggressive offensive fighter. He developed an issue with breaking his hands. So, after it happened a few times, he changed his style and became perhaps the best defensive fighter in the world. His style may been boring to some folks but I think he was a masterful fighter. I knew a guy here in Reno who helped train him for a stretch of time. He said he worked tremendously hard and was ultra focused....but, also, like any good promoter, did everything he could to lean things in his own favor.
Holyfield, in his later years, say....after mid 30s was sort of a dirty fighter. Lost a lot of respect for him actually. But, unbelievable heart and desire. One of those rare guys who started as a light heavy and went on to dominate the heavyweight division.
Pernell Whitaker, Sugar Ray Leonard, Juan Manuel Marquez, Bernard Hopkins.....truly a masterful boxer who fought up and down the weights divisions and defended his Middleweight Title 20 times, which is a record, Roy Jones Jr, Joe Calzaghe, Manny Pacquiao, James Toney, Julio Cesar Chavez, Hagler, Larry Holmes, Duran, Foreman.....the list goes on and on. SO many great fighters I remember seeing. Left off the ones that were before my time really.
Plenty of excellent current boxers as well....Canelo, Terrence Crawford is a classic, Tank Davis, Vasiliy Lomachenko is one of the better boxers Ive ever seen, in the heavyweight division Usyk is an excellent, excellent boxer that would have had success in any era.
Anyway.....looking at current rankings there are very few Americans listed in most divisions. Almost none in the heavyweight division. Usyk has risen to the top and relatively "small" 6' 3" in the super giant division heavyweight boxing has morphed into.
MMA has taken over and I get it.
But, I still prefer boxing.
I would love to see it have a sort of revival in America.
I love this subject. And I agree with @fearsomefour that MMA has largely taken over but I still way prefer the sweet science of boxing. Even if you’re watching a fight with brawlers like Boom Boom and Sean O’Grady, there was still a technical aspect that is far different than MMA. Don’t get me wrong, I realize there are a lot of nuances to a lot of MMA fights but give me boxing all day long. Unless of course it’s two slobs hugging and throwing the occasional punch. I still enjoy the lighter weights for the most part. But nothing has eclipsed what I feel is the height of boxing - the Leonard, Hearns, Hagler era. And I still feel ole “Hands of Stone” was WAY overrated as he fought like 70 nobodies.
I just wish the heavy weights would get back to being king and have some real stars.
I will disagree that Holyfield was a dirty boxer. He could stand in with the hardest punchers and the quickest hands and would always go toe to toe. If someone fought dirty, he would match them - true. But he was almost always the lighter man in the ring and I think when he jerked a shoulder up it was just more noticeable. If you want to watch possibly the best fight I’ve ever seen, watch the 15 round Holyfield/Qawi fight when Evander was a cruiser weight. What a battle. In the second fight, EH simply overwhelmed Qawi.
My other favorite was Leonard. Maybe another post.
I just wish the heavy weights would get back to being king and have some real stars.
I will disagree that Holyfield was a dirty boxer. He could stand in with the hardest punchers and the quickest hands and would always go toe to toe. If someone fought dirty, he would match them - true. But he was almost always the lighter man in the ring and I think when he jerked a shoulder up it was just more noticeable. If you want to watch possibly the best fight I’ve ever seen, watch the 15 round Holyfield/Qawi fight when Evander was a cruiser weight. What a battle. In the second fight, EH simply overwhelmed Qawi.
My other favorite was Leonard. Maybe another post.