Fake Punt

[RamFanWA]

Oh that was a great fake by Hekker

I usually hate fakes by players but (sorry Hecker) punters are not real players so....

I'll take me some Hekker any day - especially after laying out Cliff Avrill in Seattle
Hekker laying it down!
We won't talk about cowering in fear, later....

 

[Tano]

Skow is even pointing at the ref that he came in before the play started

And then I watched the play itself - there was no unsportsmanlike conduct on the Giants that I could see

And no other flags came in except the one the original ref threw

 

[JustMe]

there was no unsportsmanlike conduct on the Giants that I could see

As stated earlier, I think Hekker drew a roughing call on the play.

 

[Tano]

As stated earlier, I think Hekker drew a roughing call on the play.

Heh - that would be a trick

No giant player was within 5 yards of Hecker after the pass was thrown

 

[JustMe]

Heh - that would be a trick

No giant player was within 5 yards of Hecker after the pass was thrown

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I agree, unless I missed a roughing call during the game, that is the only play that I can think of.

 

[Tano]

There was a roughing Hekker on another play where he got the academy award for best fake of getting hit by a player

 

[majrleaged]

I guess their penalty could have been on the sideline when they were bitching about the play? I hate that there was no explanation at all from the refs. Seems there was no good reason and they don't want to talk about it.

 

[Tano]

I guess their penalty could have been on the sideline when they were bitching about the play? I hate that there was no explanation at all from the refs. Seems there was no good reason and they don't want to talk about it.

Problem with that reasoning is that the Giants penalty would be a dead ball foul whereas the Ram penalty was a live ball foul.

So they would have backed up the Rams 15 yards and then move the Rams up 15 yards with a first down for the Rams.

A dead ball foul does not offset a live ball foul.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I apologize if this has been discussed elsewhere...but, was there ever an explanation of the off-setting penalties on the fake punt?

Quoting the OP.

89 posts later… we’re still talking about the fake punt.

 

[majrleaged]

Quoting the OP.

89 posts later… we’re still talking about the fake punt.

Better than talking about Goff vs Stafford.

 

[bluecoconuts]

I guess their penalty could have been on the sideline when they were bitching about the play? I hate that there was no explanation at all from the refs. Seems there was no good reason and they don't want to talk about it.

The penalty on the Giants was a coach getting in the way of a line judge during the play.

 

[FarNorth]

The penalty on the Giants was a coach getting in the way of a line judge during the play.

It's clear to me that the Rams violated the rule against successful fake punts conducted early in the game on the home field of a downtrodden major market historical franchise opponent under circumstances in which, if the play were allowed, the fans would leave at halftime.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Skow is even pointing at the ref that he came in before the play started

And then I watched the play itself - there was no unsportsmanlike conduct on the Giants that I could see

And no other flags came in except the one the original ref threw

As stated earlier, I think Hekker drew a roughing call on the play.

Giants penalty was on their coaches

 

[Tano]

The penalty on the Giants was a coach getting in the way of a line judge during the play.

Okay I see it now

The Giants Head Coach is yelling at the team fake punt while standing right on the edge of the playing field.

That definitely can be called unsportsmanlike conduct.

Still don't like the call though on the Rams.

 

[JustMe]

Giants penalty was on their coaches

ok.

no idea where those guys came up with the roughing call.

 

[Riverumbbq]

ok.

no idea where those guys came up with the roughing call.

Give Goodell a few more months to craft a decent story, I'm sure it'll be a doozy.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

ok.

no idea where those guys came up with the roughing call.

Jourdan said the league said the Giants coaches interfered with the refs or were on the field before the play was over… something like that. Sounds like they F’d up and should have picked up the flag, but instead decided to cover up with another fake call.

 

[bluecoconuts]

Still don't like the call though on the Rams.

Call on the Rams is 100% botched, there's no valid explanation.

Ben Skowronek plays that spot on ST normally, so it was a normal substitution that happens every punt, he also came inside the numbers and then back out to his normal spot, Rams have confirmed they have All 22 that show this and sent it to the league. They both recognised the opportunity for the fake and ran it from their normal punt formation. Refs missed Skowronek going inside the numbers and apparently thought he just stepped onto the field and that was it, it was a fuck up, but since the league has banned calling out the refs for that, McVay couldn't expand in the presser, and of course the NFL will never come out and say the right thing so the Refs don't look bad.