Excellent article explaining what went wrong yesterday

[Ramlock]

What?

An unblocked rusher is NOT on the play caller. For one thing, McVay can't know what the defense is going to be in.

Think about a normal coach/QB - the QB reads the defense before the snap. Blaming McVay for an unblocked rusher is like blaming a RB when the OL doesn't block - he has zero control over what the defense calls and can't read minds. We are INCREDIBLY spoiled that McVay gets as involved with LOS stuff as he does, but Goff not being aware of a free rusher is 100% on him.

Oh boy

the play caller has to act when the defense is in 0 blitz repeatedly...and it was repeated

 

[dieterbrock]

So Goff trusts the blocking scheme and gets crushed for it. So we dont want him to expect a successful chip, or a motion player picking up a block?
Every player has multiple assignments on a play, and there is never a play designed that allows a free run at the QB's blind side, especially when the routes are all developing routes.
Goff played awful but my god, give me the QB who will trust in the blocking and take a hit vs the one who gets happy feet

 

[nighttrain]

once a QB gets happy feet it's over
train

 

[fearsomefour]

So Goff trusts the blocking scheme and gets crushed for it. So we dont want him to expect a successful chip, or a motion player picking up a block?
Every player has multiple assignments on a play, and there is never a play designed that allows a free run at the QB's blind side, especially when the routes are all developing routes.
Goff played awful but my god, give me the QB who will trust in the blocking and take a hit vs the one who gets happy feet

This happened multiple times vs the Dolphins.
Both Goff fumbles this happened.
Blocking 7 rushers with 6 blockers and blocking 6 rushers with 5 blockers.
They were empty backfield sets.....there was no one in to chip.
Goff has to see this and get out of it, find a hot read or throw it away.
Because it was man coverage with zero (thus the name zero blitz) deep safeties, it would be tempting to take a shot at a big play. If a receiver gets a step or two it’s likely a TD.....but there was no time for anything to develop.

 

[badnews]

So Goff has to know exactly who on the defense is blitzing, guess right and fire it immediately or hes getting creamed in under a second and if he's wrong he sucks.

Good thing the defense isn't allowed to disguise what they are doing and would never feign a zero blitz and then drop a DL right between him and his hot read in that one second.

 

[dieterbrock]

This happened multiple times vs the Dolphins.
Both Goff fumbles this happened.
Blocking 7 rushers with 6 blockers and blocking 6 rushers with 5 blockers.
They were empty backfield sets.....there was no one in to chip.
Goff has to see this and get out of it, find a hot read or throw it away.
Because it was man coverage with zero (thus the name zero blitz) deep safeties, it would be tempting to take a shot at a big play. If a receiver gets a step or two it’s likely a TD.....but there was no time for anything to develop.

Henderson was in motion, its his play to chip. Teams disguise blitzes all the time. Way too much blame on Goff for that.
Say what you want about the kid, but man is he tough. He takes some highlight reel hits and gets up like a champ.
Poor decisions? Late throws? Inaccurate throws? Yeah, thats all on him

 

[fearsomefour]

Henderson was in motion, its his play to chip. Teams disguise blitzes all the time. Way too much blame on Goff for that.
Say what you want about the kid, but man is he tough. He takes some highlight reel hits and gets up like a champ.
Poor decisions? Late throws? Inaccurate throws? Yeah, thats all on him

Henderson is in motion.....meaning he isn’t set?
So he’s supposed to guess and chip?
Might as well stay into block.
Although Miami would have just rushed the man assigned to him.
Miami was going to stay in positive rush numbers until the Rams were out of that zero backfield look....and sometimes even when they were in it.
I disagree.
The lionshare is this goes to the QB.

 

[dieterbrock]

Henderson is in motion.....meaning he isn’t set?
So he’s supposed to guess and chip?
Might as well stay into block.
Although Miami would have just rushed the man assigned to him.
Miami was going to stay in positive rush numbers until the Rams were out of that zero backfield look....and sometimes even when they were in it.
I disagree.
The lionshare is this goes to the QB.

He is in motion to the side of the field where the extra lineman is. Its his job to chip that guy. Stay in to block? That's an entirely different play call all together. Henderson missed the block and Goff got crushed. You know who else knows the play? McVay. And if he and the staff saw where the DE had an unabated path to his QB, no assignment to prevent, they would have called time out.
Goff sucked in that game, but why he needs to get blamed for everything is beyond me.

 

[nighttrain]

He is in motion to the side of the field where the extra lineman is. Its his job to chip that guy. Stay in to block? That's an entirely different play call all together. Henderson missed the block and Goff got crushed. You know who else knows the play? McVay. And if he and the staff saw where the DE had an unabated path to his QB, no assignment to prevent, they would have called time out.
Goff sucked in that game, but why he needs to get blamed for everything is beyond me.

unfortunately it was a team effort
train

 

[fearsomefour]

He is in motion to the side of the field where the extra lineman is. Its his job to chip that guy. Stay in to block? That's an entirely different play call all together. Henderson missed the block and Goff got crushed. You know who else knows the play? McVay. And if he and the staff saw where the DE had an unabated path to his QB, no assignment to prevent, they would have called time out.
Goff sucked in that game, but why he needs to get blamed for everything is beyond me.

I will rewatch the plays to see what kind of position Hendo was in.
There is plenty of blame to go around.
Cerebral QBs (Warner for example) dominated those blitz situations.
Goff just isn’t there.
I not bashing him.....it’s all very easy from our view on the couch.
May have looked different down there but it sure seemed obvious on the old tv.

 

[fearsomefour]

unfortunately it was a team effort
train

This is true.
Play calling, situational awareness, special teams....all phases.
Haha.

 

[fearsomefour]

So Goff has to know exactly who on the defense is blitzing, guess right and fire it immediately or hes getting creamed in under a second and if he's wrong he sucks.

Good thing the defense isn't allowed to disguise what they are doing and would never feign a zero blitz and then drop a DL right between him and his hot read in that one second.

Right.
His first pic.
That pic did not irritate me much because it was very well disguised and all QBs fall for that from time to time.
He saw the blitz and reacted in a way that made sense.
Most QBs aren’t going to see that DT dropping back that quickly.....usually the big ham handed DL don’t hang onto it.

 

[majrleaged]

I think it is all on Goff. Most good QBs make a D pay for that kind of blitzing. He never has. NEVER.

 

[dieterbrock]

I will rewatch the plays to see what kind of position Hendo was in.
There is plenty of blame to go around.
Cerebral QBs (Warner for example) dominated those blitz situations.
Goff just isn’t there.
I not bashing him.....it’s all very easy from our view on the couch.
May have looked different down there but it sure seemed obvious on the old tv.

Warner was the most fearless QB in the face of pressure that I have ever seen. Its hard to be compared to him, for any QB. Still and all, he was certainly not immune from turnovers, he had like 12 in a 4 game stretch one time IIRC

 

[fearsomefour]

Warner was the most fearless QB in the face of pressure that I have ever seen. Its hard to be compared to him, for any QB. Still and all, he was certainly not immune from turnovers, he had like 12 in a 4 game stretch one time IIRC

True.
Rich Gannon then.
You understand my larger point I assume.

 

[Ellard80]

I will rewatch the plays to see what kind of position Hendo was in.
There is plenty of blame to go around.
Cerebral QBs (Warner for example) dominated those blitz situations.
Goff just isn’t there.
I not bashing him.....it’s all very easy from our view on the couch.
May have looked different down there but it sure seemed obvious on the old tv.

This is so true - warner does not have the arm talent, height or talent of Goff - but his head was amazing.

If you all out blitzed warner he would eat your lunch.

 

[Ellard80]

Warner was the most fearless QB in the face of pressure that I have ever seen. Its hard to be compared to him, for any QB. Still and all, he was certainly not immune from turnovers, he had like 12 in a 4 game stretch one time IIRC

Yeah warner was a fumble machine for a long time - however it wasn't necessarily because of zero blitzes.

 

[Ellard80]

So Goff has to know exactly who on the defense is blitzing, guess right and fire it immediately or hes getting creamed in under a second and if he's wrong he sucks.

Good thing the defense isn't allowed to disguise what they are doing and would never feign a zero blitz and then drop a DL right between him and his hot read in that one second.

Like Mcvay said in his presser yesterday - NFL qb is the hardest position in the world in professional sports.

Sometimes in football they can bring more than you can block. But if you slide the protection - get the ball out quick you can oliterate a zero blitz.

 

[badnews]

Like Mcvay said in his presser yesterday - NFL qb is the hardest position in the world in professional sports.

Sometimes in football they can bring more than you can block. But if you slide the protection - get the ball out quick you can oliterate a zero blitz.

Unless you guess wrong, and it wasn't a zero blitz, and the DC knew how you want to attack it and plans for that too.

I agree its the hardest thing.
But shit happens.

 

[badnews]

Right.
His first pic.
That pic did not irritate me much because it was very well disguised and all QBs fall for that from time to time.
He saw the blitz and reacted in a way that made sense.
Most QBs aren’t going to see that DT dropping back that quickly.....usually the big ham handed DL don’t hang onto it.

And I'm not at all trying to excuse his play for that game. He was bad.
But I think that kind of scenario shows that defenses get paid to know our answers.
When they have those answers, any QB can have a bad day.