Excellent article explaining what went wrong yesterday

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kurtfaulk

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Yea blindside unblocked rushers causing turnovers is on the play caller.

That’s why Mcvay said in the post game interview that Mcvay has to do better and takes the responsibility.

If you have evidence to show that Goff changed the play at the line then please submit the evidence for us to review.

It doesn't matter what Mcvay called, goff can't be oblivious to the rush from his front side. He's the one holding the ball.

We've seen him have great pocket awareness at times. He had none of that in this game. And I'm not saying he had to make a play, just secure the ball or throw it away. I'm pretty sure he knows how to count. Just be aware of potential danger and take corrective action. That also means look for the outlet.

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If it smells like S#*! and it looks like S#*! and it tastes like S#*! It’s S#*! The Rams passing game plan and execution for a half was pure S#*! It will never be that bad again as long as we have McVay and Goff. They need to Figure out what happened, lock it into memory and never let it happen again.
Why.. why are you tasting it?
 

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It doesn't matter what Mcvay called, goff can't be oblivious to the rush from his front side. He's the one holding the ball.

We've seen him have great pocket awareness at times. He had none of that in this game. And I'm not saying he had to make a play, just secure the ball or throw it away. I'm pretty sure he knows how to count. Just be aware of potential danger and take corrective action. That also means look for the outlet.

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I see what your saying and Goff does share in the responsibility. But on the same token a QB has to put trust in his blockers and the play call in order to have success in the pocket. Once you start looking around for a rusher you end up failing as well.

my point is the biggest fix is getting the right blocking scheme called before the snap. Feeling the rush is something Goff did fail at in this game and something he should get better at if we expect to improve.
 

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I totally agree with the article which reflects my own thoughts when watching

The aim is to win and we would have done that if we had run the ball down their throat

Henderson was ripping huge junks and Ackers looked dangerous

I am not making excuses for Goff's play but there was simply no need to call some of those risky plays. Especially in and around the end zone

Oh well, onwards and upwards
 

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Yea blindside unblocked rushers causing turnovers is on the play caller.

That’s why Mcvay said in the post game interview that Mcvay has to do better and takes the responsibility.

If you have evidence to show that Goff changed the play at the line then please submit the evidence for us to review.
I think we’re in agreement that McVay should have seen Goff missing the free rusher and when he didn’t take action, that’s on McVay to fix.
 

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This is the 1st Quarter Runs only 2 got stuffed, but seems like it was way too much passing called.

PUNT
5 PLAYS, 13 YARDS, 1:39
1st & 5 at LAR 30
(15:00 - 1st) D.Henderson right guard to LA 34 for 4 yards (K.Van Noy; J.Baker).
2nd & 1 at LAR 34
(14:19 - 1st) D.Henderson right end to LA 38 for 4 yards (R.Davis).

TOUCHDOWN
3 PLAYS, 15 YARDS, 1:25
1st & 10 at MIA 15
(12:38 - 1st) D.Henderson left tackle to MIA 11 for 4 yards (R.Davis; E.Rowe).
2nd & 6 at MIA 11
(11:58 - 1st) D.Henderson right guard to MIA 4 for 7 yards (E.Ogbah; J.Baker).
1st & Goal at MIA 4
(11:13 - 1st) Robert Woods 4 Yard Rush K.Forbath extra point is GOOD, Center-J.McQuaide, Holder-J.Hekker.

PUNT
7 PLAYS, 42 YARDS, 2:47
1st & 10 at LAR 7
(8:42 - 1st) D.Henderson left end pushed ob at LA 25 for 18 yards (E.Rowe).
1st & 10 at LAR 43
(6:54 - 1st) M.Brown right end to LA 49 for 6 yards (X.Howard; K.Van Noy).

INTERCEPTION
4 PLAYS, 27 YARDS, 1:16
1st & 10 at LAR 12
(4:11 - 1st) M.Brown right end pushed ob at LA 17 for 5 yards (J.Baker, C.Wilkins).
1st & 10 at LAR 24
(14:55 - 2nd) D.Henderson right end to LA 36 for 12 yards (X.Howard).
1st & 10 at MIA 36
(12:13 - 2nd) D.Henderson right tackle to MIA 36 for no gain (K.Van Noy).


FUMBLE RETURN TOUCHDOWN
2 PLAYS, -15 YARDS, 1:02
1st & Goal at MIA 7
(11:03 - 2nd) D.Henderson left tackle to MIA 9 for -2 yards (E.Roberts).
 

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Historically the Rams as an organization can F up a wet dream.
Vermeil wins a title and bails.
Martz, the offensive genius....with an offense with 5 HOF players.....wins zero titles and quickly destroys the talent base.
With McVay I fully expect big contracts, lack of pics to take its toll.
Fast forward to 2023 and the next 15 year run of 5 win seasons.
If there is a way to not take advantage and short circuit what should be success, the Rams will find it.
Historically speaking.
 

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It doesn't matter what Mcvay called, goff can't be oblivious to the rush from his front side. He's the one holding the ball.

We've seen him have great pocket awareness at times. He had none of that in this game. And I'm not saying he had to make a play, just secure the ball or throw it away. I'm pretty sure he knows how to count. Just be aware of potential danger and take corrective action. That also means look for the outlet.

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Exactly.
Even just throw away a there, even with a grounding flag, is a 10 point swing minimum.
 

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think that 140 degree sideline temp might have had sumpin to with Rams troubles?

YUP


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Offense takes everybody on same page acting in concert, defense is much more of a mano a mano issue, especially when one of the defensive players is AD
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Do we know what scheme the defense was in when we passed the ball or ran the ball? do you run into 5 man blitz

Do we even know what the orginal game plan was? Its possible that the times we ran the ball were because of what alignment the defense was in.

Besides the fact that we never really gave up on the run until late in the game this entire "analysis" is a fallacy based on what arm chairing when we really don't know.

I absolutely despise breakdowns of offense based on run/pass numbers - run pass numbers are much more based on game script than game plan.

Plus if i see someone blitzing all their players - then im going to try to make them pay for it. could you try a draw play or pitch out against that - yes perhaps but those plays dont work very well in the nfl, Players are too fast - like i can;t even remember the last time in the NFL I saw a draw play against a blitz, let alone one that hit big.
 
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Do we even know what the orginal game plan was? Its possible that the times we ran the ball were because of what alignment the defense was in.

i've seen mcvay say on multiple occasions that two plays are sent in and goff goes with the one that will work better against the look the defense gives them.

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I thought our O was playing much more time
They were, but we're talking about the sideline. The offense also played better in the 2nd half, you don't really adjust to that kind of heat. Also if it really was that hot there would've been more subs on both sides of the ball. We had players playing 100% of the snaps.
 

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i've seen mcvay say on multiple occasions that two plays are sent in and goff goes with the one that will work better against the look the defense gives them.

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yeah but if you read mcvays expression on the sideline he usually looks baffled at which one he chose.
 

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Yea blindside unblocked rushers causing turnovers is on the play caller.

That’s why Mcvay said in the post game interview that Mcvay has to do better and takes the responsibility.

If you have evidence to show that Goff changed the play at the line then please submit the evidence for us to review.


What?

An unblocked rusher is NOT on the play caller. For one thing, McVay can't know what the defense is going to be in.

Think about a normal coach/QB - the QB reads the defense before the snap. Blaming McVay for an unblocked rusher is like blaming a RB when the OL doesn't block - he has zero control over what the defense calls and can't read minds. We are INCREDIBLY spoiled that McVay gets as involved with LOS stuff as he does, but Goff not being aware of a free rusher is 100% on him.