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And I've answered that reasonable question many times. Read, posted in this thread, some of Andrew Whitworth's comments regarding Jones and why the Rams traded him. He makes it sound like the Rams needed to get rid of him because of his attitude and how he handled everything in camp this year.
Now Titans also gave up on him early in the season and found a GM who actually is shitty at trades.
Now what I think is a reasonable question back at you. Is Ernest Jones more valuable than DeAndre Hopkins? He just got a hell of a lot more back in a trade than Hopkins did. The difference? Kansas City has a very good GM and Seattle does not. IMO that comparison of GM's is backed up by a hell of a lot of data.
Sorry but I don't think I got a simple direct answer, so I have to just assume that You ARE Comfortable with How the Rams' Decision Makers look with regard to the Ernest Jones matter?
That's OK ... I'm not ... Really Not
My answer to your question (above):
I think Hopkins is a more valuable player (even at this point in his career) than Jones.
You made me go-back to find Whitworth's comments. Good stuff but I don't agree with all of them (bolded)
FYI, here is what I found from August 27th:
"So if he’s not going to start. And not going to be happy about that. And you’re content moving on. You leave him on the roster. To be unhappy vet on young defense. Jones should be starting ... for the Rams!
It’s called culture building. You do right by him and trade him. Let him play elsewhere.
OK but how about a reasonable trade, with fair compensation in return.
Trade compensation is like stats. Much more than the numbers.
NO! Good draft choices are important and valuable ... they help build a strong roster.
Now you have culture where guys trust you. We not going to pay you and want to move younger. We will do right by you and not hold you hostage. Let you go earn it. Greater later for everyone."
The Rams are Not younger at ILB ... they are older. Opponents will know the Rams will accept less in trade compensation because they are more focused on 'doing right' by the player
Personally, I think one of the Rams' weaker positions was made far-more-weak by trading-away it's best player. A third round pick who was very productive last year was given-away, and has (thus far) been replaced by less effective players. The Rams did not get back reasonable compensation, and are having a disappointing season ... in part because of their weak ILBs.
I hated the trade in late-August, and have numerous posts on this thread to that point. I have been disgusted with the Rams' ILB-play thus far. Finally, today's trade just drives home my initial opinion and magnifies my current disappointment.
I have said enough on this topic ... unless someone miss-represents my prior comments.
Besides, I have plans to make. I have been invited to @RamFan503 for dinner. I have Tupperware to buy!
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