Edwards to IR, Funk cut, Skura elevated

[oldnotdead]

Don't get your hopes up with Skura at C. He's had only one good year in the last four. He's very inconsistent. IMO he's the epitome of an average backup level player. Aboushi isn't great but he's certainly better overall than Edwards.

I could see them moving Jackson to LG with Aboushi to RG this week.

 

[den-the-coach]

Don't get your hopes up with Skura at C. He's had only one good year in the last four. He's very inconsistent. IMO he's the epitome of an average backup level player. Aboushi isn't great but he's certainly better overall than Edwards.

I could see them moving Jackson to LG with Aboushi to RG this week.

IMO, Skura would be a better option then Kolone, who is a Ham & Egger IMHO. Like the idea of moving Jackson to LG and Aboushi to RG and after the bye, Allen will be back at center.

 

[Merlin]

IMO he's the epitome of an average backup level player.

Indeed but so was Allen. And Allen still might be more of a backup than he is a starter.

Centers in general are the worst players on most OL, in terms of putting them on a blocking sled or going one on one vs a DT. They tend to be limited and can be protected with the players around them. Skura is a guy who I don't want to call a scrub, but if he can do a good job with the mental side and tie this OL group together from the pivot we might get some decent stretches of play out of him.

The bigger problem is the fronts that this team faces on the schedule. Next month is going to be very challenging.

 

[BonifayRam]

I’m not wishing any ill will upon Edwards, but when a player is getting concussed without any form of impact to the head but any jarring impact, it can mean it’s time to hang up his cleats.

I doubt that we will see David Edwards on the field as a Ram again.

His 4th season is done.

Ram Org needs to look forward from this point to developing future interior OL'ers who can open holes for the running game in late November/ December & January to win!

I have no issues with Carberry moving on with a healthy Coleman Shelton & Brian Allen/ Alaric Jackson/ Oday Aboushi/ Matt Skura/ Jeremiah Kolone & Chandler Brewer interior OL contingent. Then look to add a couple of INTERIOR OL'ers in this upcoming draft.

The Rams do stand a chance to be awarded 4 compensatory draft selections in 2023.

 

[BonifayRam]

Indeed but so was Allen. And Allen still might be more of a backup than he is a starter.

Centers in general are the worst players on most OL, in terms of putting them on a blocking sled or going one on one vs a DT. They tend to be limited and can be protected with the players around them. Skura is a guy who I don't want to call a scrub, but if he can do a good job with the mental side and tie this OL group together from the pivot we might get some decent stretches of play out of him.

The bigger problem is the fronts that this team faces on the schedule. Next month is going to be very challenging.

I would agree with you on the thought of Brian Allen being considered more of a reserve from this point on IF it were not for the OG posts. IF the Rams had two solid starters to start @ OG then Shelton would be my first choice to start @ center.

But as we know Carberry is seriously short on starting OG this season so Shelton is sure to return to his RG post as it was in TC/ Preseason & as the regular season opened. Brian Allen is sure to return to starting center.

Yes, the schedule was a monumental challenge before the disaster with 5 IOL'er being injured.

Next year we could see Shelton/ Allen being the just "center-only" contingent. Next TC I would think that the Rams will have pencil in Logan Bruss/ Alaric Jackson & Tremayne Anchrum as the 3 projected main OG's. I do expect a couple of solid pure OG to be drafted. To ensure we do not have another interior OL disaster back to back.

The 2023 OT's unit is Havenstein/ Noteboom/ Arcuri/ Pircher.

 

[Tano]

I would agree with you on the thought of Brian Allen being considered more of a reserve from this point on IF it were not for the OG posts. IF the Rams had two solid starters to start @ OG then Shelton would be my first choice to start @ center.

But as we know Carberry is seriously short on starting OG this season so Shelton is sure to return to his RG post as it was in TC/ Preseason & as the regular season opened. Brian Allen is sure to return to starting center.

Yes, the schedule was a monumental challenge before the disaster with 5 IOL'er being injured.

Next year we could see Shelton/ Allen being the just "center-only" contingent. Next TC I would think that the Rams will have pencil in Logan Bruss/ Alaric Jackson & Tremayne Anchrum as the 3 projected main OG's. I do expect a couple of solid pure OG to be drafted. To ensure we do not have another interior OL disaster back to back.

The 2023 OT's unit is Havenstein/ Noteboom/ Arcuri/ Pircher.

Any centers coming out the next year that the Rams will pass up for a midget WR or crappy TE

 

[Riverumbbq]

Any centers coming out the next year that the Rams will pass up for a midget WR or crappy TE

Here's a Center/OG who might still be around when we draft later in the 2'nd Round.

Ricky Stromberg Center Arkansas | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report

Rating: 80.7 Rank: #26 Forty: 5.26 Ricky Stromberg from Union High School was rated a 4-star recruit by ESPN and handed a 4-star grade by 247 Sports. Following high school, Stromberg opted ...

www.nfldraftbuzz.com

 

[BonifayRam]

Here's a Center/OG who might still be around when we draft later in the 2'nd Round.

Ricky Stromberg Center Arkansas | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report

Rating: 80.7 Rank: #26 Forty: 5.26 Ricky Stromberg from Union High School was rated a 4-star recruit by ESPN and handed a 4-star grade by 247 Sports. Following high school, Stromberg opted ...

www.nfldraftbuzz.com

I have no issues with this selection.

I understand that for the next decade or better good solid OL'ers will be in ULTRA high demand. Better get them when you can!

If you believe that a prospect will fit in with your blocking scheme it's fine with me to pick him earlier than his what the team or other teams will have as his true draft grade with most all other positions.

The only position I would tend to take more of a priority than an IOL'er would be an ER or pass-rushing DT to replace Aaron Donald.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I have no issues with this selection.

I understand that for the next decade or better good solid OL'ers will be in ULTRA high demand. Better get them when you can!

If you believe that a prospect will fit in with your blocking scheme it's fine with me to pick him earlier than his what the team or other teams will have as his true draft grade with most all other positions.

The only position I would tend to take more of a priority than an IOL'er would be an ER or pass-rushing DT to replace Aaron Donald.

For 2023 I'd likely go with the best IOL we can find remaining in the draft, ... since we won't have another 1'st round draft pick until 2024, I probably seek out that future great Edge or Donald heir DT then.
While a quality Edge should be a high priority, I believe there are some lower cost post season free agents which could hold us over for another year.
jmo.

 

[Merlin]

I would agree with you on the thought of Brian Allen being considered more of a reserve from this point on IF it were not for the OG posts. IF the Rams had two solid starters to start @ OG then Shelton would be my first choice to start @ center.

Yeah I favor Shelton too Boni. But it is probably splitting hairs between them. Maybe this next offseason will be the one where they throw some more draft capital into the OL and maybe Snead will actually hit on one of them.

OL has definitely been a weakness of his. I like Bruss and all but if you look overall at the OL drafted by Les it's quite underwhelming. Might be time to look hard at how they are evaluating these guys. Might have been part of what got Kromes fired, in addition to some of his creative starter decisions. But if that's the case you can't keep blaming OL coaches at some point maybe look in that mirror.

 

[bubbaramfan]

I keep dreaming of an OL who all weigh over 325.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Yeah I favor Shelton too Boni. But it is probably splitting hairs between them. Maybe this next offseason will be the one where they throw some more draft capital into the OL and maybe Snead will actually hit on one of them.

OL has definitely been a weakness of his. I like Bruss and all but if you look overall at the OL drafted by Les it's quite underwhelming. Might be time to look hard at how they are evaluating these guys.

I'm getting ahead of myself somewhat, but if the Rams invest our 2'nd & one of our 6'th round draft picks at C/OG and another for a developmental OT to compete, 2023 should have us in pretty good OL shape going forward. Much will depend on whether Skura, Aboushi and/or Brewer are worth bringing back in reserve roles also. We should keep in mind that Shelton and Anchrum become eligible for free agency after the 2023 season, so they'll be seriously wanting a starting position next year, and it looks like the only thing that might be available is at LG, although if the Rams draft a high round pick at OG/C, then Shelton and Anchrum may revert back to top reserve interior linemen. Anchrum is also 3 years younger than Shelton, so do you think the Rams will really keep them both ? Like it or not the Noteboom & Allen 3 year extensions means they aren't going anywhere for awhile, not unless injury dictates it.
Minus further injuries, the Rams should have a fairly solid OL next year, and I could see it breaking down something like this :

LT) Noteboom, Jackson
LG) High Draft pick, Shelton
C) Allen, Shelton, same high draft pick as the new LG
RG) Bruss, Anchrum
RT) Havenstein, Arcuri or Pircher

Practice Squad :

Matt Skura
Oday Aboushi
Arcuri or Pircher
6'th round OT

jmo.

 

[Merlin]

I think we're going to see a depth turnover to some extent for sure. Should be fun. Just gotta get through this season.

 

[Psycho_X]

I keep dreaming of an OL who all weigh over 325.

Getting a fat guy is easy. Getting one that can move and isn’t an idiot is the tricky part.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I think we're going to see a depth turnover to some extent for sure. Should be fun. Just gotta get through this season.

It will be fun if management places a higher degree of investment into our immediate IOL future.
As for this year, a lot of our guys will be coming back just as we head into the heart of our season after the BYE, whether they will be up to it, who knows ?

 

[BonifayRam]

I'm getting ahead of myself somewhat, but if the Rams invest our 2'nd & one of our 6'th round draft picks at C/OG and another for a developmental OT to compete, 2023 should have us in pretty good OL shape going forward. Much will depend on whether Skura, Aboushi and/or Brewer are worth bringing back in reserve roles also. We should keep in mind that Shelton and Anchrum become eligible for free agency after the 2023 season, so they'll be seriously wanting a starting position next year, and it looks like the only thing that might be available is at LG, although if the Rams draft a high round pick at OG/C, then Shelton and Anchrum may revert back to top reserve interior linemen. Anchrum is also 3 years younger than Shelton, so do you think the Rams will really keep them both ? Like it or not the Noteboom & Allen 3 year extensions means they aren't going anywhere for awhile, not unless injury dictates it.
Minus further injuries, the Rams should have a fairly solid OL next year, and I could see it breaking down something like this :

LT) Noteboom, Jackson
LG) High Draft pick, Shelton
C) Allen, Shelton, same high draft pick as the new LG
RG) Bruss, Anchrum
RT) Havenstein, Arcuri or Pircher

Practice Squad :

Matt Skura
Oday Aboushi
Arcuri or Pircher
6'th round OT

jmo.

The Alaric Jackson position in this OL going forward will be very interesting to observe.

Rams have now gone through 5 interior OL'ers with injuries. Only one is still working & standing tall, and that's Jackson.

I just do not see the Rams removing him from a starting position after going through all this mess around him thrown into the to help this dysfunctional OL keep it together under heavy duress from the depths of total disaster.

Young Alaric Jackson is the only healthy positive interior OL'er. How can you demote a player like this? I could not do it.

From this point on #77 is our starting OG for the rest of the season, either Right or left I do not care. Unless there is damage @ the OT positions he stays as a starter. He is our 2nd largest OL'er 6-6 tall & over 325 lbs after Big Rob! I do not see either Anchrum/ Bruss or Shelton beating the big guy out does anyone have differing thoughts on this?

Carberry really preferred the 6-1/315lbs Tremayne Anchrum @ LG throughout all of TC & preseason. So there's that.

 

[Riverumbbq]

The Alaric Jackson position in this OL going forward will be very interesting to observe.

Rams have now gone through 5 interior OL'ers with injuries. Only one is still working & standing tall, and that's Jackson.

I just do not see the Rams removing him from a starting position after going through all this mess around him thrown into the to help this dysfunctional OL keep it together under heavy duress from the depths of total disaster.

Young Alaric Jackson is the only healthy positive interior OL'er. How can you demote a player like this? I could not do it.

From this point on #77 is our starting OG for the rest of the season, either Right or left I do not care. Unless there is damage @ the OT positions he stays as a starter. He is our 2nd largest OL'er 6-6 tall & over 325 lbs after Big Rob! I do not see either Anchrum/ Bruss or Shelton beating the big guy out does anyone have differing thoughts on this?

Carberry really preferred the 6-1/315lbs Tremayne Anchrum @ LG throughout all of TC & preseason. So there's that.

Yes, Alaric Jackson may very well remain at OG for the rest of 2022, and I'm hopeful of him moving to LG while Aboushi moves in at RG and Skura takes over at Center. However, my post you are quoting is referencing the 2023 OL depth chart. I don't really see Jackson going back to swing OT as a demotion, more as a return to where he may be of greater service to the team. To me, it's similar to the rookie Edwards being cast as a starting OG where I believe we should have looked at him as an emergency temp while seeking another LG, getting Edwards back to competing as our back-up RT, something I warned about a couple years ago. You can even compare the A.J. situation to the Allen/Shelton mess, losing both at the same time, again something I warned about this pre-season. Imagine if we lost Noteboom & Jackson simultaneously, what becomes of Stafford then ?
As for beating Jackson out, no-one currently will beat him out as our back-up LT, and it's not very fair at this point to think he's a slam dunk victor at LG over either Shelton or Anchrum. I'm not saying he might not prove to be the superior player one day, but when Shelton had those limited snaps at LG last year, he looked pretty good, and like Bruss at RG, Anchrum was injured so fast that we don't know what would have eventually happened. jmo.

 

[RamDino]

If Alaric Jackson continues to play well, he may give Noteboom a run for his money next year at left tackle. Especially if Boom continues to give up sacks.

 

[den-the-coach]

If Alaric Jackson continues to play well, he may give Noteboom a run for his money next year at left tackle. Especially if Boom continues to give up sacks.

Or the Rams make a move or draft someone to play LT and Jackson slides into LG also.

 

[Riverumbbq]

If Alaric Jackson continues to play well, he may give Noteboom a run for his money next year at left tackle. Especially if Boom continues to give up sacks.

Personally, I feel it's far too early to judge Jackson as performing all that well at OG. Yes, he offers a big body and yes, for someone who hasn't played the position before in the NFL, he's stepped into an unfortunate situation and has played adequately. He was lucky enough to avoid the Buffalo debacle, but if you are willing to accept PFF scoring, his first 3 games at RG resulted in an average score of 66.5. His 4'th game, against the Cowboys, we saw a fall-off to 48.8 which was pretty poor. Jackson performed well at LT as a UDFA rookie, and we all have high hopes for him, but before we crown him as our OG of the future, let's see how he does when we are playing the toughest patch of our season. jmo.