Do you suppose that Snead is working the phones seeking a player-for-player trade for OL help?

  • To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.

Riverumbbq

Angry Progressive
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
May 26, 2013
Messages
11,962
Name
River
The Rams identified the need for those esepcially on the OG spot and drafted two Tackles who they're giving snaps to right now at both Tackle and Guard. Those two in addition to young guys carried over were who McVay and Kromer selected. If they didn't want those guys we'd have signed a vet instead and used those picks elsewhere. You want developmental guys yet you aren't giving the coaches to develop the guys they chose.

If there's a problem, it may relate more to some of the reports coming out of camp about Demby, some are already predicting that Jeremiah Kolone is beating him out. There also remains the question on whether anyone is really ready right now to back-up either OG position should one of the starters go down. I imagine that both Taylor & Evans will be fine with time, although solid depth on day 1 may be lacking. jmo.
 

OldSchool

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Nov 3, 2013
Messages
41,720
If there's a problem, it may relate more to some of the reports coming out of camp about Demby, some are already predicting that Jeremiah Kolone is beating him out. There also remains the question on whether anyone is really ready right now to back-up either OG position should one of the starters go down. I imagine that both Taylor & Evans will be fine with time, although solid depth on day 1 may be lacking. jmo.
As Boni pointed out in the other thread. Evans and Edwards as G/T backups along with Brewer and Neary as a G/C backup with Blythe the 3rd C option. Neither Demby nor some free agent/trade target are needed. And those are four guys to backup that are already in camp and already learning the offense and already being coached up by Kromer and McVay. No adjustment period needed like anybody we pick up that was cut or that we trade for.
 

MadGoat

Mathematically alive
Joined
Jul 31, 2016
Messages
1,909
I'm thinking Sullivan might actually be the backup center, even though he isn't even on the roster.
 

OldSchool

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Nov 3, 2013
Messages
41,720
I'm thinking Sullivan might actually be the backup center, even though he isn't even on the roster.
Sully is still a free agent and makes the most sense especially over trading anybody but that's more of an oh shit move.
 

BonifayRam

Legend
Joined
Jan 14, 2013
Messages
13,435
Name
Vernon
I'm thinking Sullivan might actually be the backup center, even though he isn't even on the roster.
No issue with this but @ what cost? Rams Team Cap Space is only $6 million. If it was to be for a short period it might be worthy of checking into.
 

Riverumbbq

Angry Progressive
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
May 26, 2013
Messages
11,962
Name
River
I'm thinking Sullivan might actually be the backup center, even though he isn't even on the roster.

Yes, although not officially. If something happens to Allen, Sullivan is only a plane ride away from a roster spot. I just hope he's staying in shape.
 

TexasRam

Legend
Joined
Jan 13, 2013
Messages
8,125
I sure hope they do have a backup plan.

2 first year unproven starters with rookies as backups.
 

Riverumbbq

Angry Progressive
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
May 26, 2013
Messages
11,962
Name
River
No issue with this but @ what cost? Rams Team Cap Space is only $6 million. If it was to be for a short period it might be worthy of checking into.

Don't quote me on this, but I believe following the first game of the season you can sign someone to a short term non-guaranteed contract, where if we kept Sullivan for only the 3 games after an injury to our starter and before Neary returned, he would only need be paid for those 3 games. @flv could better answer this i'm sure. jmo.
 

PhillyRam

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jun 1, 2013
Messages
7,525
Name
Scott
Yeah, a vested vet, who is on the roster week one, gets his full year's salary guaranteed.

That's why sometimes you see vets get cut on final cutdown, then signed after week one has passed. Then their contract is not guaranteed for the full season.
 

RamWoodie

Legend
Joined
Jun 21, 2014
Messages
5,525
Cuts are about to start happening....that's the place where help would be found if needed. I for one, am not sure the OLine depth is that bad. Patience is the first thing. Preseason ain't over.
 

oldnotdead

Legend
Joined
May 16, 2019
Messages
5,406
I don't think Snead is using his phone for the o-line. They have guys there that can be as good or better than some castoff from another team. I don't see the need to panic about the o-line. They haven't finished evaluating who they actually have on the roster yet. If Demby isn't their guy after all then they have 4 other guys they need to look closely at.

Don't want to make another Troy Hill type contract. His contract was premature and now the guys behind him seem to be better. No Snead needs to get out from under Troy Hill's contract. I've said all along and still say, Hill is a marginal CB at this level.

Also, as much as people think Roby-Coleman is a good player, all I see is a guy who thinks he's better than he is. IMO he's a mistake waiting to happen. People make a lot of his infamous PI but he made equally inept mistakes, i.e. blown coverages during the game. He's like Peters, loads of talent but too much ego getting in the way of his play. Roby-Coleman has a cap charge of over $6 M this year and $4.5 next year. I say use that supposed rep as a top slot CB and package him with Troy Hill for draft picks next year. Slot CB can be played by Williams or with a 3rd safety i.e. Rapp (who is very good at taking away those quick slot receiver throws).

This will give them at CB: Talib, Peters, Long, Peterson, and Williams. I would also shop or release Christian and keep Parker or Gervase. Christian is another marginal player and either Parker or Gervase would be an upgrade.

IMO the only thing keeping Hill on the team is his contract structure. It's back-loaded with over $2M in dead cap this year.

No, if I was Snead I'd be on the phone to clean up the secondary making room for some upgrade guys while clearing some cap as well and perhaps getting some picks.
 

So Ram

Legend
Camp Reporter
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
15,471
I don't think Snead is using his phone for the o-line. They have guys there that can be as good or better than some castoff from another team. I don't see the need to panic about the o-line. They haven't finished evaluating who they actually have on the roster yet. If Demby isn't their guy after all then they have 4 other guys they need to look closely at.

Don't want to make another Troy Hill type contract. His contract was premature and now the guys behind him seem to be better. No Snead needs to get out from under Troy Hill's contract. I've said all along and still say, Hill is a marginal CB at this level.

Also, as much as people think Roby-Coleman is a good player, all I see is a guy who thinks he's better than he is. IMO he's a mistake waiting to happen. People make a lot of his infamous PI but he made equally inept mistakes, i.e. blown coverages during the game. He's like Peters, loads of talent but too much ego getting in the way of his play. Roby-Coleman has a cap charge of over $6 M this year and $4.5 next year. I say use that supposed rep as a top slot CB and package him with Troy Hill for draft picks next year. Slot CB can be played by Williams or with a 3rd safety i.e. Rapp (who is very good at taking away those quick slot receiver throws).

This will give them at CB: Talib, Peters, Long, Peterson, and Williams. I would also shop or release Christian and keep Parker or Gervase. Christian is another marginal player and either Parker or Gervase would be an upgrade.

IMO the only thing keeping Hill on the team is his contract structure. It's back-loaded with over $2M in dead cap this year.

No, if I was Snead I'd be on the phone to clean up the secondary making room for some upgrade guys while clearing some cap as well and perhaps getting some picks.

So your basing this off of what ??

Your looking at it in a magnifying glass.

Then you give it a different perspective and understand. Making trades in the NFL is not all that easy. When was the last big trade the Rams in the mail.
 

So Ram

Legend
Camp Reporter
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
15,471
I doubt that he is. Allen and Boom were trained to take over for Sullivan and Saffold. They are healthy and should be ready to go so outside help is not needed.

Agree, Edwards & Evans are going to be swing guys. Then Narring will be will be back in 4 weeks.

The Rams will always check the waiver wire. Whatever happened to that Center in Buffalo. LOL

Jamon Brown is up to 340. He is a road grader. The Rams got rid of him pretty fast last season with only Boom & Allen on the bench basically ,The Demby off waivers.
I see The Rams keeping a couple guys on the practice squad. Who is this Brewer kid ??
 

den-the-coach

Fifty-four Forty or Fight
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jan 16, 2013
Messages
23,327
Name
Dennis
Jamon Brown is up to 340. He is a road grader. The Rams got rid of him pretty fast last season with only Boom & Allen on the bench basically ,The Demby off waivers.
I see The Rams keeping a couple guys on the practice squad. Who is this Brewer kid ??

They had to release Brown or they could not have traded for Fowler, it was a salary cap move. Plus Brown was a free agent signed by the Falcons and is backing up James Carpenter at LG for them.

IMO, I thought the Giants would keep Brown because they played better with him at RG, but they let him walk.
 

So Ram

Legend
Camp Reporter
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
15,471
They had to release Brown or they could not have traded for Fowler, it was a salary cap move. Plus Brown was a free agent signed by the Falcons and is backing up James Carpenter at LG for them.

IMO, I thought the Giants would keep Brown because they played better with him at RG, but they let him walk.

I guess it makes it seem like it was a trade ? What were The Rams other options. The picked up Demby right after that I believe, or were both on the roster at the Same time ???
I guess my point or wonder is how many O”lineman will be on opening day roster. The Rams cut Williams & Demby last season leaving only maybe 8 ?
 

fearsomefour

Legend
Joined
Jan 15, 2013
Messages
17,695
Unlikely the team would trade someone they weren’t expecting to cut. Other teams are unlikely to trade someone they weren’t expecting to cut.
OL depth is hard to find with any team in the league.
The braintrust has fully committed to roll with Noteboom and Allen. That may be great, it could be a disaster. Either way, the decision has been made.
The Rams invested two mid round picks in OL this year. I’m sure with the hope they won’t see action. They have performed like mid round picks. They may end up being great. Neary is the back up C.
Looking to add depth is tricky. Either old vets with many miles or unproven green players like the Rams have. Or a former starter, like Barkadale, but, he plays one position only. The Rams don’t seem interested (wisely given the lack of depth) in guys that play one spot.
A trade would be interesting but hard to find a match that works for both teams.
 

fearsomefour

Legend
Joined
Jan 15, 2013
Messages
17,695
I guess it makes it seem like it was a trade ? What were The Rams other options. The picked up Demby right after that I believe, or were both on the roster at the Same time ???
I guess my point or wonder is how many O”lineman will be on opening day roster. The Rams cut Williams & Demby last season leaving only maybe 8 ?
I think they will keep 9 and have 8 on the roster with Brewer going to the practice squad once Neary is back from suspension.