Detroit signs Jared Goff to 4 year $212M extension $170M guaranteed

[CoachAllred]

Hope they have cap space left.
It will require an elite team around him to ever get a Lombardi


Goff under pressure =

Stafford under pressure =

Conclusion = One will wear a gold jacket and one will not..............................

 

[Allen2McVay]

Hope they have cap space left.
It will require an elite team around him to ever get a Lombardi

Looking at the cap sites, Detroit is in excellent salary cap shape for the next two seasons.

The extensions signed by Amon-Ra St. Brown and Penei Sewell are very cap friendly for the next two years.

 

[RamDino]

Let's see him with Harbaugh

Let's see him with Jeff Fisher -lol.

 

[RamDino]

Goff got paid 50 million per year because he is worth it.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Hope they have cap space left.
It will require an elite team around him to ever get a Lombardi


Goff under pressure =

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Stafford under pressure =
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Conclusion = One will wear a gold jacket and one will not..............................

i hate to do this because it should never be about goff vs stafford but you forced me to do it.

in their last meeting stafford couldn't get in done in the redzone when he needed to. goff needed 2 1st downs to ice the game and he got them both times by passing the ball. it seems he wasn't so deer in the headlights there.

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[kurtfaulk]

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some of you guys make me laugh.

sure you can say goff isn't elite like stafford. nobody is gonna argue that fact.

but to put up names like dak, derpert, love and lamar jackson is laugable.

what has lamar jackson ever done in the playoffs? he's a flat track bully, that's it. and derpert? fuck me that guy is useless when the game is on the line.

and dak? hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Kupped]

Why is it then that Herbert can put up ridiculous regular season numbers, but gets a pass when his team loses a win-and-in/lose-and-go-home game (against the Raiders of all teams), and the next year his team loses a wild-card playoff game after building a huge lead? The Chargers losing those two games can't all be chalked up to organization. There were in those positions with a chance to move on both times, and in neither of those cases were they facing some obviously superior opponent. As I said, if you are honest, you will admit you would rake Goff over the coals if his teams came up short in the same situation.

Those were the two biggest games of Herbert's career, he had a chance to be a difference maker in both, and wasn't. At what point is it on him to be a difference maker in those games and get his team over the hump?

Herbert plays defense?

 

[kurtfaulk]

Its amazing how still people want to minimize his achievements.

he has led two down and out franchises back to relevance and yet he was only along for the ride.

i'm not sure that's how the nfl works.

any weakness is brutally exposed by the opposition. there's nowhere to hide.

it doesn't hurt to give him his props. there's no need to still be butthurt because he wasn't as good as you wanted him to be.

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[kurtfaulk]

Man, that sunrise comment went a looooong way

jeff fisher really wanted to screw goff. i will never believe he wanted goff no matter what he says because every action he took made it seem like he wanted to the guy to fail and look bad.

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[Kupped]

i hate to do this because it should never be about goff vs stafford but you forced me to do it.

in their last meeting stafford couldn't get in done in the redzone when he needed to. goff needed 2 1st downs to ice the game and he got them both times by passing the ball. it seems he wasn't so deer in the headlights there.

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This is where evaluating throws over results matters.

Much like I said Goff outplayed Purdy… Stafford outplayed Goff.

The penalty on Puca gets called and the Rams win.

I hope people understand I’m not blaming refs for the loss.. I’m just pointing out a factor that highlights a QB can perform and still lose.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Herbert plays defense?

no he plays qb and when the game is on the line he plays it poorly.

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[Kupped]

he has led two down and out franchises back to relevance and yet he was only along for the ride.

i'm not sure that's how the nfl works.

any weakness is brutally exposed by the opposition. there's nowhere to hide.

it doesn't hurt to give him his props. there's no need to still be butthurt because he wasn't as good as you wanted him to be.

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The idea that Goff lead them to relevance is doing some HEAVY lifting here.

 

[Kupped]

no he plays qb and when the game is on the line he plays it poorly.

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I think it’s funny that we say something like that to argue in favor of a QB who had the Super Bowl performance Goff did.

 

[kurtfaulk]

The idea that Goff lead them to relevance is doing some HEAVY lifting here.

prime example number 1.

yeah, he was only along for the ride.

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[Kupped]

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some of you guys make me laugh.

sure you can say goff isn't elite like stafford. nobody is gonna argue that fact.

but to put up names like dak, derpert, love and lamar jackson is laugable.

what has lamar jackson ever done in the playoffs? he's a flat track bully, that's it. and derpert? fuck me that guy is useless when the game is on the line.

and dak? hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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They all have something in common… none have won a Super Bowl.

And… again… looking at QBs without considering the coaching and personnel is just silly.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I think it’s funny that we say something like that to argue in favor of a QB who had the Super Bowl performance Goff did.

yeah he was awful in the superbowl but he was nails in the championship game in the most hostile environment i've ever seen.

when derpert can do that get back to me.

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[OldSchool]

I think it’s funny that we say something like that to argue in favor of a QB who had the Super Bowl performance Goff did.

Yeah it's ok to defend QB's who aren't good enough in the playoffs to even get to one? You got it

 

[Kupped]

prime example number 1.

yeah, he was only along for the ride.

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The extremes are what make this conversation end up in stupid town.

 

[Kupped]

yeah he was awful in the superbowl but he was nails in the championship game in the most hostile environment i've ever seen.

when derpert can do that get back to me.

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He was fine in the NFC Championship game.. one TD and an 83 rating.

And.. again… Super Bowl.

Coaching matters. Scheme matters. Personnel matters.

 

[kurtfaulk]

They all have something in common… none have won a Super Bowl.

And… again… looking at QBs without considering the coaching and personnel is just silly.

my god, you make it sound like those other qbs are on shit teams. listen to yourself.

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