Detroit signs Jared Goff to 4 year $212M extension $170M guaranteed

[Ram65]

I still enjoy watching Goff. Being traded was the best thing for Jared. Things have worked out for both the Rams and Lions. He has some limitations. He also is a tough son of a gun. He takes his hits and keeps getting up to make plays. The QB money is just crazy.

I'm looking forward to a rematch. Rams defense will be getting after Jared this year.

 

[Logy]

...and one correctly called penalty when Puka was mugged, then it would most likely be the Rams advancing

You do see the irony of this you closet Saints fan?

 

[HE WITH HORNS]

He has taken 2 teams to CCGs, one to a SB. Herbert hasn't got there yet. Lamar has got to the CCG but lost. Hurts and Burrow, like Goff have won CCG but lost the SB. How many active QBs have done more than Goff? Mahomes and Stafford. The guy has earned what he got. The key, IMO, is he's won with 2 teams.

If we were paying Goff 50 million in 2018, we don't go near the superbowl that year. We wouldn't have been able to afford to put a team around him. We got there because he was on a cheap rookie contract.

I think the Kneecaps were stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one. He's too good to let him walk, and he's only going to play at a very high level with a great team around him. And now they won't be able to afford the latter. They have a one year window at this point, before the big dollars kick in IMO.

 

[PARAM]

But the next time he shows the ability to succeed when things are breaking down around him will, pretty much, be the first time.

Didn't watch the 2018 CCG in New Orleans, eh? Sure the win is attributed to Robey-Coleman and the zebras but Goff did exactly what you described he never has before.

This is not about Goff vs. Stafford but the fans who can't give him an attaboy continuously make that the discussion so as not to have to acknowledge him.

 

[Kupped]

Didn't watch the 2018 CCG in New Orleans, eh? Sure the win is attributed to Robey-Coleman and the zebras but Goff did exactly what you described he never has before.

This is not about Goff vs. Stafford but the fans who can't give him an attaboy continuously make that the discussion so as not to have to acknowledge him.

No.. it's not.
And.. yes.. I watched that game. Since you started out with the.. "didn't watch"... I'll respond with "you didn't read, eh?"

Goff worked completely within structure.. AND WAS GREAT. The ball he dropped to Cooks down left sideline was pretty amazing.

He had everyone except Kupp going on offense and a full, badass line.

Contrast that to what Stafford was working with.

And it's not about Goff vs. Stafford.. I was pointing out what Stafford can do that Goff can't do that creates the difference in value between the two.

And if you read the whole fucking post.. you'd know I praised him for his play against the 9ers.

So.. don't project that bullshit on me.

 

[Kupped]

I still enjoy watching Goff. Being traded was the best thing for Jared. Things have worked out for both the Rams and Lions. He has some limitations. He also is a tough son of a gun. He takes his hits and keeps getting up to make plays. The QB money is just crazy.

I'm looking forward to a rematch. Rams defense will be getting after Jared this year.

It was the best thing for him.
McVay admits he made mistakes with Goff and regrets how things went down. I do not take this to mean he regrets the trade, but rather the breakdown of their working relationship.
Goff moved into what turned out to be a perfect situation for him and the Lions.

I think it's easy to forget that McVay is really young and can make mistakes too.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

Didn't watch the 2018 CCG in New Orleans, eh? Sure the win is attributed to Robey-Coleman and the zebras but

Not by me. The Saints benefited more from all the non calls and poor officiating than we did. The Rams were tough as nails that game and it was a well deserved win. No surprise we took them out rather easily early the next season.

 

[Kupped]

Not by me. The Saints benefited more from all the non calls and poor officiating than we did. The Rams were tough as nails that game and it was a well deserved win. No surprise we took them out rather easily early the next season.

Every time an effing Saints fan talks shit to me... I tell them... "Go look at the facemask on Goff... so obvious Aikman pointed it out. First and goal inside the 2."

 

[WestCoastRam]

What annoys me is when Goff was here everyone (pundits and other teams) said he sucks and the media would rag on him all the time. Being dumb about the sun rising.

Now that he’s on lions it’s like he’s treated completely different even though he’s just as good as he was when he was with us.

He got better as a QB. It's documented.

His first year with the Lions was... rough.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I still enjoy watching Goff. Being traded was the best thing for Jared. Things have worked out for both the Rams and Lions. He has some limitations. He also is a tough son of a gun. He takes his hits and keeps getting up to make plays. The QB money is just crazy.

I'm looking forward to a rematch. Rams defense will be getting after Jared this year.

Agree, he learned things about the drop back passing game that he might never have learned under McVay and went to an organization that was willing to weather a poor year to start. Something we no longer had an appetite for.

 

[kurtfaulk]

What annoys me is when Goff was here everyone (pundits and other teams) said he sucks and the media would rag on him all the time. Being dumb about the sun rising.

Now that he’s on lions it’s like he’s treated completely different even though he’s just as good as he was when he was with us.

Everybody was laughing at him in his first year in Detroit. Couldn't win a game without Mcvay, etc.

Then midseason the Lions made Ben Johnson the oc and Josh Reynolds arrived. All it took was one average nfl wr and a rookie (st Brown) finding his groove for Goff to get his Mojo back and suddenly he had a Kurt Warner like rejuvenation. But with Brad Holmes leading the way did we expect any different for whatever team he was in charge of to get them off the floor.

Having a good oc definitely helps a qb.

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[WestCoastRam]

Everybody was laughing at him in his first year in Detroit. Couldn't win a game without Mcvay, etc.

Then midseason the Lions made Ben Johnson the oc and Josh Reynolds arrived. All it took was one average nfl wr and a rookie (st Brown) finding his groove for Goff to get his Mojo back and suddenly he had a Kurt Warner like rejuvenation. But with Brad Holmes leading the way did we expect any different for whatever team he was in charge of to get them off the floor.

Having a good oc definitely helps a qb.

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Losing Reynolds this year might be a low key issue for that offense.

 

[gogoat1]

Good for Jared.
I watch Lions games because of him.
Never had anything against the man.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Losing Reynolds this year might be a low key issue for that offense.

It was so sad for him to be such a dependable target for Goff in the games I watched but in the biggest game of his career he botched 2 critical catches. He must have felt sick inside.

Edit - biggest game with the Lions. He was on the 2018 Rams the superbowl year wasn't he.

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[Corbin]

Yeah, luck with these rooks getting around Sewell and Ragnow, one can dream tho

Meh.. we got a line of our own.

 

[TexasRam]

Everybody was laughing at him in his first year in Detroit. Couldn't win a game without Mcvay, etc.

Then midseason the Lions made Ben Johnson the oc and Josh Reynolds arrived. All it took was one average nfl wr and a rookie (st Brown) finding his groove for Goff to get his Mojo back and suddenly he had a Kurt Warner like rejuvenation. But with Brad Holmes leading the way did we expect any different for whatever team he was in charge of to get them off the floor.

Having a good oc definitely helps a qb.

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Agreed on the OC.

Also, took a while to get in synch with the WR's. I remember year 1 seeing a ton of not on same pageness.

Swift constantly hurt affected things.

The addition and emergence of Laporta, Williams and Gibbs to go with Montgomery really put the offense over the edge.

 

[FarNorth]

And the major reason the Lions are much better is Brad Holmes.

And the best decision Brad Holmes ever made was to trade for Jared Goff. Holmes basically staked his reputation on acquiring Goff two weeks after he started as GM. If Goff had been a bust, as many here thought, the Lions would still be in the tank.

Goff has been as important as anyone, and maybe more than anyone, in turning around the Lions. He took a disfunctional offense and turned it into a top 5 powerhouse. And he did at a time when he did not have any known offensive weapons. He had a 4th round receiver in St. Brown and Josh Reynolds. He has also become a hero in Detroit.

Now that they finally have a real secondary, the Lions will be a threat to run the table in the NFC and win a Super Bowl. There are no guarantees, but anyone who thinks Goff can't do this because he is a classic pocket quarterback doesn't appreciate how nearly unstoppable the Detroit offense has become. Their D stopped them last year, not the offense. They were good enough to punch the Rams in the face and will be better next year.

Goff earned the contract. And market value-- what a team is actually willing to pay for someone-- is as real a measure as anything.

 

[FarNorth]

Everybody was laughing at him in his first year in Detroit. Couldn't win a game without Mcvay, etc.

Then midseason the Lions made Ben Johnson the oc and Josh Reynolds arrived. All it took was one average nfl wr and a rookie (st Brown) finding his groove for Goff to get his Mojo back and suddenly he had a Kurt Warner like rejuvenation. But with Brad Holmes leading the way did we expect any different for whatever team he was in charge of to get them off the floor.

Having a good oc definitely helps a qb.

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Johnson and Goff spent a weekend together in the offseason two years ago after Johnson was named OC. They took three long days to watch film of Goff with the Rams and trade ideas about plays that would work. Johnson then redesigned the Lions' O. The immediate result next year was a powerhouse offense. This what happens when a coach works with, not against, his quarterback.

Contrast this with McVay, who publicly blamed Goff for the failure of McVay's own offense after the running game (Gurley) and the oline (Saffold and Allen) took significant hits. McVay lacked the patience to adapt his offense to its actual capabilities and lacked the patience to work with Goff (although he was willing to sign him to an expensive contract.)

Goff has never trashed any teammate or coach.

But in the grand scheme of things the situation seems to have worked out. McVay got a Super Bowl. Goff may well get one in Detroit. And even if he doesn't, Goff will make ten times as much money, or more, than McVay could ever think about.

 

[RamUK]

Statistically speaking he was a top 5 or 6 QB? Led his team to the NFCCG? Looks pretty market value if you take off the Goff hating lenses that some will see it through.

I don't think there are many fans who hate Goff, although I could be wrong

I think what you have is a bunch of fans who saw him play a lot and could see his limitations.

As such, they see a guy who struggles to quite get a team to the highest level.

There have been a bunch of QBs who were paid as a top QB (Kurt Cousins and Russell Wilson immediately spring to mind) who were never that elite guy like Stafford is.

Somebody said on Facebook that Goff could be a great QB with a really good Oline. Well, if he needs a really strong Oline, how can he be classed as anything above, good?

I think Goff is a good QB, but I'm not sure he'd be drafted top 10 if all the QBs were thrown into a pot and each team was starting afresh.

Then again, maybe he is maturing late and he will be that good. I really don't know.

I really like him as a person, and I'm not as arsed about the Lions nasty play as others were/are, so I still wish him well with Detroit if it doesn't negatively impact us.

I'm not sure, though, why questioning Goff's ability as an elite quarterback makes anybody a hater.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Well, if he needs a really strong Oline, how can he be classed as anything above, good?

Did you see what happened to Stafford in the 22 season? Every pocket passer needs a good oline.

Why do you think the Golden boy was able to be productive for so long? Nobody could touch him and he had 5 seconds to find an open guy almost every down.

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