Dak & The Cowgirls... Franchise Tag or New Massive QB Contract?

[Mojo Ram]

Agreed.

 

[Loyal]

Agreed.

It IS a Jerry Jones led team, bruh...

 

[oldnotdead]

Dalton is about as good of a backup QB as you are going to get. That said it's a hefty price for a clipboard holder. If Dak gets hurt he might not get his job back. Dalton will play behind a top o-line, with support both offensively but also on defense. Is Dalton better than Dak? No, but he would likely be far cheaper and good enough to get the Boys into the playoffs. Winning in the playoffs shows how good your TEAM is or isn't. Dalton wouldn't have to carry that team he simply would have to not lose the game with turnovers.


This is Jone's way of pressuring Dak in his contract negotiations. His way of threatening Dak with a "you can be replaced" type of threat. Dalton has zero to lose and everything to gain here. Holding a clipboard for $3-$4M isn't a bad living. Hell, I will come out of retirement for that! (Geez my gf read that and is rolling on the bed laughing at me)

 

[dieterbrock]

Do you know if that was changed in the new CBA? With the old CBA teams were able to rescind the tag and still get a compensatory pick. The Steelers got clarification on this with LeVeon Bell, when they were considering rescinding the tag right before the season started.

Under the new CBA, 1 week after the draft (used to be 2) is the deadline for signing UFA and having them count towards the comp pick formula. So any UFA signed now wouldn't count. I dont recall Pittsburgh being able to get a comp pick in 2019, they got one in 2020 because he signed with the Jets in 2019 free agency period.
He was rescinded and signed before the draft, inside the UFA period

 

[dieterbrock]

IDK Dalton was with that cheap shit owner who only got a few toys in the draft before letting them go. With talent Dallas puts together he might be able to sling it. With Dalton being a Texas boy that's right up Jerry's alley to. " Just them good ol boys...."

Dalton had a pretty good crew to work with, AJ Green, Gresham, Marvin Jones, Sanu, Eifert etc. During his playoff run he ws good enough to throw for about 4,000 yards and 30 td each season, but was patently awful in post season

 

[MadGoat]

Under the new CBA, 1 week after the draft (used to be 2) is the deadline for signing UFA and having them count towards the comp pick formula. So any UFA signed now wouldn't count. I dont recall Pittsburgh being able to get a comp pick in 2019, they got one in 2020 because he signed with the Jets in 2019 free agency period.

Yeah. I'm not sure anything has changed with this. In August or September of 2018 the Steelers clarified with the NFL that if they rescinded Bell's tag and he was signed, it would still count towards their compensatory calculation. I don't know where that specific scenario is addressed in the CBA, but it was well after the normal timeframe for compensatory pick signings.

 

[Corbin]

Dalton had a pretty good crew to work with, AJ Green, Gresham, Marvin Jones, Sanu, Eifert etc. During his playoff run he ws good enough to throw for about 4,000 yards and 30 td each season, but was patently awful in post season

Stats aren’t players that win you championships though.

You can say the same about Marino, Matthew Statford etc.

Bet anything he’d at least get a win or two in the playoffs, maybe more. Guess no way to know unless Dak sits out this season.

 

[dieterbrock]

Stats aren’t players that win you championships though.

You can say the same about Marino, Matthew Statford etc.

Bet anything he’d at least get a win or two in the playoffs, maybe more. Guess no way to know unless Dak sits out this season.

I don’t follow. Marino and Stafford have played well, Marino at times great even, in the playoffs. Dalton has been awful.

 

[Corbin]

I don’t follow. Marino and Stafford have played well, Marino at times great even, in the playoffs. Dalton has been awful.

4000 yards and 30 td’s is good enough to get to the playoffs, but playing against playoff caliber teams you need a complete team. Something which the Bungals have never had.

 

[oldnotdead]

4000 yards and 30 td’s is good enough to get to the playoffs, but playing against playoff caliber teams you need a complete team. Something which the Bungals have never had.

Exactly! In the playoffs, teams win championships.

 

[Rynie]

Rodgers and McCarthy will never work together again. His new coach is already tired of that FUCKING DIVA.

 

[dieterbrock]

4000 yards and 30 td’s is good enough to get to the playoffs, but playing against playoff caliber teams you need a complete team. Something which the Bungals have never had.

Yeah because the QB crapped the bed in the playoffs

 

[Selassie I]

My money says that someone in the Jones family made sure this article was written and put out.

 

[Rynie]

Dalton is about as good of a backup QB as you are going to get. That said it's a hefty price for a clipboard holder. If Dak gets hurt he might not get his job back. Dalton will play behind a top o-line, with support both offensively but also on defense. Is Dalton better than Dak? No, but he would likely be far cheaper and good enough to get the Boys into the playoffs. Winning in the playoffs shows how good your TEAM is or isn't. Dalton wouldn't have to carry that team he simply would have to not lose the game with turnovers.


This is Jone's way of pressuring Dak in his contract negotiations. His way of threatening Dak with a "you can be replaced" type of threat. Dalton has zero to lose and everything to gain here. Holding a clipboard for $3-$4M isn't a bad living. Hell, I will come out of retirement for that! (Geez my gf read that and is rolling on the bed laughing at me)

I haven't watched Dalton much, but yes, he is better than Dak. I've seen enough Dak to day this with confidence.

 

[Loyal]

I haven't watched Dalton much, but yes, he is better than Dak. I've seen enough Dak to day this with confidence.

You haven't watched Andy Dalton nearly enough! ~ Andrew Whitworth

 

[kurtfaulk]

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he's been your starting qb for 4 years and you've paid him $2.6 million total. now you're quibbling over a million or two per season.

you horrible fuck.

either pay him or let him walk.

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[CGI_Ram]

Joe Theismann Rips 'Crazy' Dak Prescott Over Demands: 'You're Not a Top-5 QB'

Joe Theismann cannot seem to fathom how Dak Prescott is going about his business.

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Joe Theismann Rips ‘Crazy’ Dak Prescott Over Demands: ‘You’re Not a Top-5 QB’

Joe Theismann cannot seem to fathom how Dak Prescott is going about his business.

To the Washington Redskins legend, it’s unconscionable that the Dallas Cowboys’ franchise-tagged quarterback would reject at least two reported megadeal offers in an ongoing standoff to become the NFL’s highest-paid player — not just passer.

Theismann feels Prescott is getting questionable guidance from superagent Todd France, to say the least.

“Dak Prescott’s situation confuses me a bit,” Theismann said on CBS Sports Radio earlier this week. “If I was advising Dak Prescott, I would say, ‘Take the money. The aggravation to go through, the unknowns if you happen to go through a year, the free agency – yes, they’ve committed a lot of money to Amari [Cooper]. Yes, they’ve committed a lot of money to Zeke. But that’s a lot of money. What are you looking for? Another couple million? You’re never going to see the last year of this contract anyway.’”

To answer the rhetorical question, Prescott is seeking to surpass Seattle’s Russell Wilson ($35 million annually) as the league’s richest QB. The 26-year-old prefers a four-year deal that allows him to cash in now and re-test the market later, still in his prime. Prescott reportedly rejected a pair of proposals floated by the Cowboys that would have paid him in excess of $33 million annually and included $105 million in guarantees.

Dallas is standing its ground at four years, unwilling to cave to Dak’s demands. Which aren’t rooted in reality, according to Theismann.

“What you really concern yourself with is the guarantee that you’re going to get,” he said on CBS Sports Radio. “So if he signs a five-year contract at $34 million, that’s $170 million and probably $115-20 of it is guaranteed. What, are you crazy? Are you really, really nuts? Has somebody got into your head and said, ‘It’s worth the risk of disrupting the football team? All the questions, all the pressures?’”

The Cowboys assigned the exclusive franchise tag to Prescott in March. The sides have until July 15 to reach agreement on a long-term extension, or Prescott will be forced to play 2020 on the $31.4 million tender, which he’s also yet to sign.

Prescott made $2.025 million in 2019, the final year of his rookie deal in which he finished second in the league with 4,902 passing yards, one short of tying the single-season franchise record held by Tony Romo.

But stats alone, Theismann opined, aren’t enough to justify a market-resetting windfall. If Prescott wants to be paid like a truly elite signal-caller, he’ll need to perform like a truly elite signal-caller — consistently.

Otherwise, he should eat what’s on his proverbial plate before asking for seconds.

“You’re not a top-five quarterback in the National Football League,” Theismann said of Prescott. “You’re a good football player. You have the potential to be better, but what have you done?”

 

[kurtfaulk]

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well the cowboys are screwed now.


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dak won't be accepting any offers under $37m next season from the cowboys.

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[Merlin]

Dak statistically has been pretty good in post season, 95.7 QBR, 7 TD (2 rush)- 2 INT, 280 ypg total, 64% comp, 1-2 record
Dalton has been absolutely abysmal in post season, 57.8 QBR, 1 TD - 6 INT, 241 ypg total, 56% comp, 0-4 record
Cant really sell Dalton as the starter there, can they? I would have loved to see him repeat that post season "excellence" with the Pats, would be funny to see it in Big D also

True. But Dak has also had an elite OL since he became a starter. He's had good protection, and a great run game. THAT is a requirement in the playoffs and what we see with Dalton is the other side of that coin IMO.

I'm not a big Dalton fan btw. But I think he's a serviceable starter. I think if Dallas goes with him they can be just as good as they would have been with Dak.