Cowboys extend Dak Prescott

[Mackeyser]

Have a feeling the NFLPA would have something to say about that. Every other position would not be happy.

I dunno. Right now, how many guys are aced because a team is paying a QB max money under the cap?

How many guys if they want to get paid have to find a team with a rookie QB?

How many QBs take the max money and then complain about the OL or lack of a defense?

If they gonna sell this game as QB vs QB, then the QBs shouldn't be part of the cap. In that vein, they should look to the NBA for QB contracts that would allow teams to have a "max" contract for the QB and it increases per year to a ceiling based on tenure. If they leave for another team, they "max" out at the first tier and start accruing years again. That would give QBs incentive to stay with fan bases while making the team accounting about a MILLION times more stable.

Honestly, this "rookie QB" cap manipulation meta game is nonsense.

All these people and all these fan bases having all this turmoil... over basic accounting choices.

It's just fucking dumb.

 

[Boston Ram]

you make it sound like they can go down to the corner store and pick out a franchise qb.

why do you think all these above average qbs are getting monster deals?

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There getting these deals because they are afraid. Every team is worried s out keeping these “QB”s because they are trying to sell season tickets.

Take a look at the last 8SBs or so. Teams that won that do not include Tom Brady won with QBs on rookie deals and built good to great rosters. Wilson on rookie deal made 2 SBs. Wentz on a rookie deal won with back up lol. Goff on rookie deal went to a SB, Mahomes made 2

you make it sound like they can go down to the corner store and pick out a franchise qb.

why do you think all these above average qbs are getting monster deals?

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There getting these deals because they are afraid. Every team is worried s out keeping these “QB”s because they are trying to sell season tickets.

Take a look at the last 8SBs or so. Teams that won that do not include Tom Brady won with QBs on rookie deals and built good to great rosters. Wilson on rookie deal made 2 SBs. Wentz on a rookie deal won with back up lol. Goff on rookie deal went to a SB, Mahomes made 2 SBs. The outliers are NE/Atlanta. Newton also took Carolina to a SB on a rookie deal and Rodgers won his on a rookie deal.

So although you can’t find a QB at the corner store lol, I don’t think you can win with QBs consuming so much of a teams cap space.

Not sure how Dallas did it but the cap impact is actually pretty minimal percentage wise so looking like a better deal at least from a team perspective

 

[dieterbrock]

There getting these deals because they are afraid. Every team is worried s out keeping these “QB”s because they are trying to sell season tickets.

Take a look at the last 8SBs or so. Teams that won that do not include Tom Brady won with QBs on rookie deals and built good to great rosters. Wilson on rookie deal made 2 SBs. Wentz on a rookie deal won with back up lol. Goff on rookie deal went to a SB, Mahomes made 2


There getting these deals because they are afraid. Every team is worried s out keeping these “QB”s because they are trying to sell season tickets.

Take a look at the last 8SBs or so. Teams that won that do not include Tom Brady won with QBs on rookie deals and built good to great rosters. Wilson on rookie deal made 2 SBs. Wentz on a rookie deal won with back up lol. Goff on rookie deal went to a SB, Mahomes made 2 SBs. The outliers are NE/Atlanta. Newton also took Carolina to a SB on a rookie deal and Rodgers won his on a rookie deal.

So although you can’t find a QB at the corner store lol, I don’t think you can win with QBs consuming so much of a teams cap space.

Not sure how Dallas did it but the cap impact is actually pretty minimal percentage wise so looking like a better deal at least from a team perspective

Well, Mahomes wasnt on his rookie deal for the recent SB as he got the signing bonus money, and Rodgers wasnt on his rookie deal when they won the SB, but the point is valid. And Brady did win his 1st on his rookie deal too....

 

[Boston Ram]

Well, Mahomes wasnt on his rookie deal for the recent SB as he got the signing bonus money, and Rodgers wasnt on his rookie deal when they won the SB, but the point is valid. And Brady did win his 1st on his rookie deal too....

Fair point on Mahomes, but still a very reasonable cap hit of 5M last year. Wasn’t sure on Rodgers but it seems most recently QB contracts have got a bit crazy. Some coach will figure out how to cycle in a new QB every 4 or 5 years. Feel like McVay is that guy too, won’t see if for a while but I feel like you can get a few QBs to run his system effectively. Shanahan is another.

 

[ottoman89]

Fair point on Mahomes, but still a very reasonable cap hit of 5M last year. Wasn’t sure on Rodgers but it seems most recently QB contracts have got a bit crazy. Some coach will figure out how to cycle in a new QB every 4 or 5 years. Feel like McVay is that guy too, won’t see if for a while but I feel like you can get a few QBs to run his system effectively. Shanahan is another.

I feel like McVay is that guy too, who's going to figure it out. As much as I hate Brady, he at least was smart and took more team friendly deals to help the team build.

 

[AZRams]

Afternoon local sports-talk guys in talking about the deal today:

"There's a quarterback out there with 107 TDs and 55 INT in his first five years with the same win total (43-27) as Dak Prescott. Thrown for 4600 yards in a season, twice. 3800 yards another year.

Should he be paid like Prescott?"

"Who is it?"

"Jared Goff."

Laughing. Lots of laughing.

"He's a good quarterback, not a great quarterback but he's a good quarterback. But you don't like him."

"No, I don't like him. He's not very good"

At which point all I can think is, "Even after he beat the Cards seven times? In a row?

 

[CGI_Ram]

Someone is going to take that alternate approach and see if they can make it work to enjoy the benefits of cap advantage. My guess is it'll be one of these college coaches who happens to have a very big set of balls.

Run a full spread system replete with the simple half-field reads if you need to. Load up on explosive talent. Spread the field. Draft a fucking QB every 2 to 3 years and let other teams sign away whichever one you're done with. IMO with the right coach it could work even at the NFL level.

I think so too. Feels like an advantage to exploit, if it can be done.

I don’t know how to overcome the leadership/game-flow elements expected if 2 guys are used? There could also be some conflict with the split QB’s wanting more snaps.

So the whole deal needs to be “set up” as a scheme that players need to be on board with.