Cowboys extend Dak Prescott

[CGI_Ram]

Ok, this shit is getting out of control. No extension For Stafford. Ride out our 2 years and draft our QB to groom next year in the 2nd round. Oh, and cross your fingers we hit pay dirt.

There was a thread not too long ago where we talked about developing a new model. If a HC or OC could figure a way to be less dependent upon one QB.

It goes against every leadership and rhythm paradigm we have today for QB’s.

The concept, I know @Merlin was part of the discussion... uses a guy like Wolford, in compliment with another.

Probably hokey and maybe not possible,... but damn... if a team can find a way to save paying one guy $40MM....

 

[kurtfaulk]

The concept, I know @Merlin was part of the discussion... uses a guy like Wolford, in compliment with another.

that will pack the fans in and make people watch the game on tv.

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[CGI_Ram]

that will pack the fans in and make people watch the game on tv.

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No doubt. It’s needs to work.

But could a consistent game plan be developed, similar to how Tasom Hill is in and out, that works?

I seriously doubt it.... Otherwise it would be done. But... if you could find two players to make it work... ?

 

[kurtfaulk]

No doubt. It’s needs to work.

But could a consistent game plan be developed, similar to how Tasom Hill is in and out, that works?

I seriously doubt it.... Otherwise it would be done. But... if you could find two players to make it work... ?

i'm sorry, i should have used blue font. while it is an interesting idea i doubt the viewing public would be very excited about the prospect of watching it.

the game has already been dumbed down by all these running qbs that can't throw. i find it impossible to watch ravens games for example. nothing bores me more than a qb running then sliding.

and for this idea to work they're the kind of qbs you're gonna be working with. except they're nowhere near as dynamic as jackson.

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[CGI_Ram]

i'm sorry, i should have used blue font. while it is an interesting idea i doubt the viewing public would be very excited about the prospect of watching it.

the game has already been dumbed down by all these running qbs that can't throw. i find it impossible to watch ravens games for example. nothing bores me more than a qb running then sliding.

and for this idea to work they're the kind of qbs you're gonna be working with. except they're nowhere near as dynamic as jackson.

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Yeah. That’s a good point.

I don’t care for watching running QB play either. Sprinkled in is okay, but... watching a guy like Tasom Hill throw, you can tell he’d rather run than throw it.

 

[Mister Sin]

I just dont get how they justify paying him that. He isnt even in the conversation for best QB. Or top 5....maybe top 10. He is a good, solid QB. But he isn't a star.

 

[OnceARam]

Jerry Jones for GM of the year!!!

 

[den-the-coach]

I just dont get how they justify paying him that. He isnt even in the conversation for best QB. Or top 5....maybe top 10. He is a good, solid QB. But he isn't a star.

 

[dieterbrock]

No doubt. It’s needs to work.

But could a consistent game plan be developed, similar to how Tasom Hill is in and out, that works?

I seriously doubt it.... Otherwise it would be done. But... if you could find two players to make it work... ?

Keep in mind that Taysom Hill has a 16 mill cap hit in 2021 to just rotate in a play or two. I think the only model that works in today's day and age is the Patriots model of cheating. Ya know, pay Brady on paper 1/4 less than the rest but under the table paying him out the wazoo

 

[Dodgersrf]

Gawd I hope this doesn't mean they'll get EVERY prime time game. Fuuuccckkkk.

They damn near already do.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

There was a thread not too long ago where we talked about developing a new model. If a HC or OC could figure a way to be less dependent upon one QB.

It goes against every leadership and rhythm paradigm we have today for QB’s.

The concept, I know @Merlin was part of the discussion... uses a guy like Wolford, in compliment with another.

Probably hokey and maybe not possible,... but damn... if a team can find a way to save paying one guy $40MM....

The last two times that was done was the Ravens and their defense was number one for a few years. Flacco had a great playoff run and then the next year they screwed up and paid him.

I think it could work, but you’d have some down years due to QB play. Plus disgruntled players wondering what the hell you are thinking. You could get a guy like Wolford or Taylor Weineke and ride him for four years. I think it would mean drafting a QB every year though, just to have them waiting in the wings. But, say you get lucky with a Russell Wilson. How hard would it be to trade him away and stick to the plan?

I guess the extra draft picks every four years would help boost your chances of filling the roster with top talent at every position.

If it worked it would turn the NFL on its ear.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Before the Rams traded up to number 1, I was all for keeping the draft picks and picking Dak. It’s fun to think of how that would turn out. Would a running QB have saved Fishers job for another year? Or was he on his way out no matter what?

What does Dak do in the Rams offense with McVay? Could he have gotten to a Super Bowl? If so does his running ability prevent the 6 man fronts and all out pass rushes? Could it have neutralized the Patriots defense?

Is he all that much worse than Goff? Or is he just different? McVay likes the scrambling ability

Would the picks saved from that trade have allowed the Rams to build a better Oline? Or to trade for another mega star like Ramsey?

 

[AvengerRam]

Dak is a good QB. Still, I can't help but wonder how difficult it would be to duplicate his success with that OL, Elliott carrying the ball and, most recently, a top tier WR corps.

At least those commentators who tried to spin Dak's lack of an extension compared to Goff and Wentz as a race issue can now shut the fuck up.

 

[AZRams]

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Pfft...makes Les Snead look like a farking genius money manager.

Given that JG won more playoff games in one SB run than Dak has won in 5 seasons should put any attempt at serious comparison to rest.

 

[btfd16]

The commentary on this is surprising to me. Dak is a good starting QB. They don't grow on trees. It's a 22m cap hit in a rough cap year and then the cap is only going to skyrocket with the new TV deal. Next offseason might be NBA 2016 Free Agency Lite. Not to mention Lamar will probably surpass this, Josh Allen will if he has another MVP caliber year, and if Baker balls out (although I wouldn't break the bank here), even he could get close. This is how it goes for franchise QBs. I don't think they screwed themselves at all with this.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

There was a thread not too long ago where we talked about developing a new model. If a HC or OC could figure a way to be less dependent upon one QB.
... if a team can find a way to save paying one guy $40MM....

Hey CGI. I already solved this problem last season. Alas, the NFL has not picked up my plan that I have offered them COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE! Blows my mind.

Short version of plan: Since QBs are already treated differently (special rules I won't bother re-listing here), why not just exclude them from the cap hit? PERIOD.

We're not talking full Dodgers/Yankees/Red Sox payroll craziness that causes small markets to be at a competitive disadvantage. It's just one position (treated differently), that allows owners to splurge while not having the rest of the team and their fans suffer.

 

[btfd16]

Hey CGI. I already solved this problem last season. Alas, the NFL has not picked up my plan that I have offered them COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE! Blows my mind.

Short version of plan: Since QBs are already treated differently (special rules I won't bother re-listing here), why not just exclude them from the cap hit? PERIOD.

We're not talking full Dodgers/Yankees/Red Sox payroll craziness that causes small markets to be at a competitive disadvantage. It's just one position (treated differently), that allows owners to splurge while not having the rest of the team and their fans suffer.

Have a feeling the NFLPA would have something to say about that. Every other position would not be happy.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

Have a feeling the NFLPA would have something to say about that. Every other position would not be happy.

I am not so sure about that. Right now, it's all under the cap. If the NFLPA were to approve this suggestion, it's a big step in the right direction.

I would think the owners would be the biggest hurdle as this is a slippery slope these old men would love to avoid...

 

[dieterbrock]

Hey CGI. I already solved this problem last season. Alas, the NFL has not picked up my plan that I have offered them COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE! Blows my mind.

Short version of plan: Since QBs are already treated differently (special rules I won't bother re-listing here), why not just exclude them from the cap hit? PERIOD.

I’ve said multiple times in the last year or so that somebody much smarter than me had suggested this, and it makes total sense. So thanks for reminding me who said it. Lol.
QB salaries are increasing seemingly higher than the cap increase so why punish non QB in order to placate the QB contract?

 

[Merlin]

No doubt. It’s needs to work.

But could a consistent game plan be developed, similar to how Tasom Hill is in and out, that works?

I seriously doubt it.... Otherwise it would be done. But... if you could find two players to make it work... ?

Someone is going to take that alternate approach and see if they can make it work to enjoy the benefits of cap advantage. My guess is it'll be one of these college coaches who happens to have a very big set of balls.

Run a full spread system replete with the simple half-field reads if you need to. Load up on explosive talent. Spread the field. Draft a fucking QB every 2 to 3 years and let other teams sign away whichever one you're done with. IMO with the right coach it could work even at the NFL level.