Covid 19 thread

[Riverumbbq]

A lot of places will be setting up mobile testing sites. We have one that will be starting up on campus Monday so we can test all the students. Those you literally drive up, stay in your car, and they test you right then and there.

Hopefully this program you have goes nationwide.

 

[RamFan503]

I'm going to avoid most of this because I have someone gunning for me.

I do believe it's safe to say that a vote by mail along with an ability to vote via the internet should reduce costs and enable more people of all parties to participate to a higher degree. The long lines and expecting the elderly or disabled to wait several hours to vote seems rather undemocratic when there are proven methods to improve upon this method. jmo.

Vote by mail has been problematic
especially in college towns where the "voter" hasn't been living for years or in houses with a dominant "head of household" or native American communities where many don't have street addresses.

Sorry but vote by mail is very open to fraud, suppression of certain segments, and coercion. They've been doing it for years in Oregon and though it has increased numbers by a couple percent, there were constant reports of pretty major issues. Vote by mail is available in every state by simply requesting an absentee ballot. If someone is too lazy to do that or show up to a polling location, or can't figure out how to vote..... I don't know.... maybe they shouldn't be voting.

Maybe others will disagree (and if any of the other moderators think it is please delete)but I don't see much politics involved with this particular subject as long as we don't go down the road of R v D or who benefits and such.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Especially in college towns where the "voter" hasn't been living for years or in houses with a dominant "head of household" or native American communities where many don't have street addresses.

Sorry but vote by mail is very open to fraud, suppression of certain segments, and coercion. They've been doing it for years in Oregon and though it has increased numbers by a couple percent, there were constant reports of pretty major issues. Vote by mail is available in every state by simply requesting an absentee ballot. If someone is too lazy to do that or show up to a polling location, or can't figure out how to vote..... I don't know.... maybe they shouldn't be voting.

Maybe others will disagree (and if any of the other moderators think it is please delete)but I don't see much politics involved with this particular subject as long as we don't go down the road of R v D or who benefits and such.

While charges of voting fraud certainly exist, very few have actually been recorded and prosecuted, to say the least where it may have changed any results. It's more overstated as a political ploy than proven to be a problem. Still, technology can be used to help determine voting fraud.
Personally, i'm far more afraid of the voting machines which don't produce a visible paper-trail copy reflecting my votes. I see 'suppression of certain segments' where polling places are reduced in certain communities, sometimes radically, which make it far more difficult to vote, and then be forced to wait in line for several hours. I also see suppression in holding a vote on a single day during the middle of the week when people have to work for a living and potentially wait in line for hours again before or after work. Practicing democracy means getting everyone involved in the process, expand voting to a week at least, and find every means available to make voting more convenient makes the process work better.
jmo.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Italy’s Nightmare Offers a Chilling Preview of What’s Coming

(Bloomberg) -- In Rome, the first signs of change came from overhead. Shortly before cocktail hour on Monday, the thrum-thrum-thrum of a helicopter could be heard above the winding lanes of the 2,000-year-old historic center. The police were keeping an eye on the Trastevere neighborhood, where smoke

www.yahoo.com

 

[Merlin]

Looks like today's numbers are 2195 infected and 49 deaths. So mortality is still dropping at 2.2%.

 

[Q729]

C'mon, man.

He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (Published 2020)

Amazon cracked down on coronavirus price gouging. Now, while the rest of the world searches, some sellers are holding stockpiles of sanitizer and masks.

www.nytimes.com

 

[FaulkSF]

Looks like today's numbers are 2195 infected and 49 deaths. So mortality is still dropping at 2.2%.

Numbers of infections are understated. They're not testing low risk cases.

 

[Riverumbbq]

The only thing that has me thinking of all the TP that people are buying...maybe it's time to invest in one of those butt wash machines.

Coronavirus: Toilet paper shortages spark interest in bidets. Your guide to the bathroom tool

As coronavirus concerns spark a toilet paper-buying frenzy across the USA, bidets are coming into the conversation. Here's what to know.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Memento]

C'mon, man.

He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (Published 2020)

Amazon cracked down on coronavirus price gouging. Now, while the rest of the world searches, some sellers are holding stockpiles of sanitizer and masks.

www.nytimes.com

That guy, along with anyone else trying to monetize this, deserves a special place in hell.

 

[Merlin]

Numbers of infections are understated. They're not testing low risk cases.

I realize that. But for now seeing the mortality trailing down is nice to see.

I expect by summer we'll see something below 1% and people will realize this is an overreaction. We'll see.

 

[Riverumbbq]

C'mon, man.

He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them (Published 2020)

Amazon cracked down on coronavirus price gouging. Now, while the rest of the world searches, some sellers are holding stockpiles of sanitizer and masks.

www.nytimes.com

Props to Amazon for banning this guy and others who hoard for profit.

 

[Riverumbbq]

New Zealand PM makes 'no apologies' after announcing 'toughest border restrictions' in the world amid coronavirus fears

Countries around the world continued Saturday to enact strict measures such as border closures and flight cancellations to combat the spread of the novel COVID-19 coronavirus.That includes New Zealand, whose Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced Saturday the government will implement a policy...

www.yahoo.com

Spain Goes On Lockdown As Coronavirus Cases Spike

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez announced movement will be limited and non-essential businesses closed in the wake of COVID-19.

www.huffpost.com

France goes on lockdown with non-essential public locations to close

Restaurants, shops, cinemas and cafés will shut for the foreseeable future with French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe calling the virus the 'biggest health crisis in a century'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Mojo Ram]

'Inducing panic': Media under fire for driving coronavirus hype to epidemic levels

Concerns about the coronavirus pandemic are both warranted and understandable, but the media is increasingly coming under fire for stoking a panic mentality that experts decry as both counter-productive and unsupported by the facts.

In addition to the stock market’s daily roller coaster ride, grocery stores and warehouse clubs in some areas have been picked clean of essentials such as toilet paper, paper towels and sanitizing wipes (or have rationed sales to prevent that) as coronavirus coverage dominates social media and the 24/7 news cycle.

The message from public health and infectious disease experts: It’s important to take the coronavirus threat seriously, but it’s also critical not to overreact.

“There’s been a mad rush to go out and purchase all these items in anticipation of the next apocalypse. That’s not what we’re dealing with,” said Dr. Robert Quigley, regional medical director of International SOS. “We’re dealing clearly with a pandemic for all intents and purposes, but the vast majority of us who are going to contract the disease are not going to be significantly impacted.”

University of California, Irvine associate professor E. Alison Holman, who has published research on media exposure to mass-trauma events, said the toilet paper scare appeared to have originated with articles about stocking up before the virus’ spread.

“A week ago, there were a handful of articles in major newspapers saying, here’s what you should do to prepare for the coronavirus. And one of the top things that was listed on at least two or three websites — major media outlets — was: Buy toilet paper,” Ms. Holman said. “I think some of the freak-out about getting toilet paper has to do with that.”

She described the media-fueled worry as “a little overblown,” while others have gone so far as to accuse the press of sensationalizing the virus to juice ratings.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/new..._1uV36jMOor4Z-cvFj1fRwf7Uih_yVSLnr0UHybUVrIng

 

[LesBaker]

industrial toilet paper

That sounds so soft and gentle. LOL



Casinos are closing all over the country.

Well, I'm not worried about dying from it still, or this silly end of the world crap, but I am expecting to catch the bug eventually.

We've had several students on campus test positive for it now, and one of them lived in a dorm directly across the street from my office. He frequented two of the three places I get my food from (and the third is one of the most visited areas on campus) pretty often apparently. They've had me and a few others coming into work to do some research updating, so chances are I've been exposed. My department chair is expecting full campus suspended operations (we're on limited operations now) to happen soon, but the entire city of Seattle is trending that direction.

Mobile testing begins on Monday for students, so we're all expecting confirmed cases to skyrocket, which will probably trigger the action.

Drive through testing is growing so that will help BIG TIME.

Stay safe my friend!

I expect by summer we'll see something below 1% and people will realize this is an overreaction. We'll see.

Well. Let see. Let's take a look.

Is it possible that the current "response" is just being viewed as an "overreaction"? And maybe it's the reason we are seeing decreases in some areas?

Because if people went about things as they had been the infection and death rates wouldn't drop. They'd be way up.

So extra caution isn't actually an overreaction. It's a type of aggressive response to this unknown.

And frankly the US and other 1st World nations dragged their fucking feet on this. As soon as it appeared and was diagnosed they should have moved into action. Instead they sat still as assbackwardshealthcarewise China put out bullshit about what was going on.

Everyone knows that they cannot be trusted to accurately report on this type of shit. They have a long history of bullshitting early on while trying to tamp things down.

 

[RhodyRams]

 

[RamFan503]

Practicing democracy means getting everyone involved in the process, expand voting to a week at least, and find every means available to make voting more convenient makes the process work better.

Yeah... There are plusses and minuses. I much prefer this part you quoted. I know that many states are already practicing it - Nevada is. Those who have physical impairments can always vote absentee.

 

[Merlin]

Well. Let see. Let's take a look.

Is it possible that the current "response" is just being viewed as an "overreaction"? And maybe it's the reason we are seeing decreases in some areas?

Because if people went about things as they had been the infection and death rates wouldn't drop. They'd be way up.

So extra caution isn't actually an overreaction. It's a type of aggressive response to this unknown.

Les I think people overreacting is natural. We're all worried about number one, that being ourselves and by extension our families. People gonna be people.

What I am irked by is the politicizing of this thing. The press that is so strongly polarized on both sides is part of that IMO. People who are normally freaking out by nature should be able to log the media sites and get information that they need to keep it where it has to be.

But anyway. The good thing in all this is that it will be a nice dry run for a lethal pandemic. Governments can see what they fucked up (because they always fuck things up it's how we learn, and why they say procedures are written in blood), and maybe avoid that in the future when far more is at risk.

 

[Loyal]

Les I think people overreacting is natural. We're all worried about number one, that being ourselves and by extension our families. People gonna be people.

What I am irked by is the politicizing of this thing. The press that is so strongly polarized on both sides is part of that IMO. People who are normally freaking out by nature should be able to log the media sites and get information that they need to keep it where it has to be.

But anyway. The good thing in all this is that it will be a nice dry run for a lethal pandemic. Governments can see what they fucked up (because they always fuck things up it's how we learn, and why they say procedures are written in blood), and maybe avoid that in the future when far more is at risk.

Well Merlin, we're all worried about number one, until number 2 becomes an issue because there ain't no tissue!

View: https://twitter.com/klara_sjo/status/1238927508860555265?s=20

 

[Riverumbbq]

'Inducing panic': Media under fire for driving coronavirus hype to epidemic levels

Concerns about the coronavirus pandemic are both warranted and understandable, but the media is increasingly coming under fire for stoking a panic mentality that experts decry as both counter-productive and unsupported by the facts.

In addition to the stock market’s daily roller coaster ride, grocery stores and warehouse clubs in some areas have been picked clean of essentials such as toilet paper, paper towels and sanitizing wipes (or have rationed sales to prevent that) as coronavirus coverage dominates social media and the 24/7 news cycle.

The message from public health and infectious disease experts: It’s important to take the coronavirus threat seriously, but it’s also critical not to overreact.

“There’s been a mad rush to go out and purchase all these items in anticipation of the next apocalypse. That’s not what we’re dealing with,” said Dr. Robert Quigley, regional medical director of International SOS. “We’re dealing clearly with a pandemic for all intents and purposes, but the vast majority of us who are going to contract the disease are not going to be significantly impacted.”

University of California, Irvine associate professor E. Alison Holman, who has published research on media exposure to mass-trauma events, said the toilet paper scare appeared to have originated with articles about stocking up before the virus’ spread.

“A week ago, there were a handful of articles in major newspapers saying, here’s what you should do to prepare for the coronavirus. And one of the top things that was listed on at least two or three websites — major media outlets — was: Buy toilet paper,” Ms. Holman said. “I think some of the freak-out about getting toilet paper has to do with that.”

She described the media-fueled worry as “a little overblown,” while others have gone so far as to accuse the press of sensationalizing the virus to juice ratings.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/new..._1uV36jMOor4Z-cvFj1fRwf7Uih_yVSLnr0UHybUVrIng

I watch and read a lot of news, from several sources, although i'm yet to see a media outlet I watch act irresponsibly in the way they present this news. I avoid the big corporate media titans like Fox & CNN as they spin everything and use loud opinionated pundits to push whatever they are selling, so I can't speak to what they are up to any longer. Coronavirus is the big story right now and everybody has a story to tell, I won't attack them for doing their job unless I witness wrongdoing, but listening to some of the ridiculous hired pundits, opinion hawkers & talking heads could drive someone to madness, I actually can't believe they are able to stay in business with all that pea-brained chatter.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Les I think people overreacting is natural. We're all worried about number one, that being ourselves and by extension our families. People gonna be people.

What I am irked by is the politicizing of this thing. The press that is so strongly polarized on both sides is part of that IMO. People who are normally freaking out by nature should be able to log the media sites and get information that they need to keep it where it has to be.

But anyway. The good thing in all this is that it will be a nice dry run for a lethal pandemic. Governments can see what they fucked up (because they always fuck things up it's how we learn, and why they say procedures are written in blood), and maybe avoid that in the future when far more is at risk.

Don't you believe Katrina should have been enough of a dry run ? People are going to go overboard, especially when what we previously thought might be a social safety net (FEMA) evaporates live on TV.