Covid 19 thread

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Bump that. She’d be nursing a massive knot on her noggin before she could get the second squirt off...

Chivalry dies when I’m getting maced by a Karen...

I mean, yeah. At minimum, she deserves a heel hook.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Too many people in Australia watch American TV. They come armed with their phones and videoing themselves refusing to wear a mask in Victoria.

And you're just waiting for the "it's against my civil rights" to come out. It always does, the idiots. It's like they're oblivious to what's happening around them.

One of them was telling police they were going to get sued for kidnapping. The police were wearing masks but you could tell they had the biggest grins in the world listening to her babbling.

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[12intheBox]

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Too many people in Australia watch American TV. They come armed with their phones and videoing themselves refusing to wear a mask in Victoria.

Australia can be dumb all by themselves - they don’t need our help. I mean, I think we all appreciate the contributions Australia has made to the world - Nicole Kidman, Hugh Jackman, Crocodile Dundee, boomerangs, Outback Steakhouse - but while we have made our own house a mess - we aren’t taking the blame for yours.

 

[Loyal]

Since the most promising vaccines are being rushed through the pipeline, stage two testing won't reveal for months how effective they are. Could last for but a short while or possible more long term. Sounds like hedging to me. Sounds like never ending mask wearing will be broached.

A Big Unknown in Covid-19 Vaccine Development: How Long Will Protection Last?

Early trials suggest vaccines can induce antibody production. But it is too early to know how long they will work, or even whether they are protective.

www.wsj.com

 

[XXXIVwin]

Sounds like never ending mask wearing will be broached.

A Big Unknown in Covid-19 Vaccine Development: How Long Will Protection Last?

Early trials suggest vaccines can induce antibody production. But it is too early to know how long they will work, or even whether they are protective.

www.wsj.com

Although I go on and on about how I wish more Americans would wear masks (in prudent situations), I readily admit I despise wearing the damn things.
I wear them when I have to, but they’re hot, stuffy, and super uncomfortable. I hate not being able to see expressions, too.

I dunno, but my guess is that once a vaccine is widely distributed—even if it’s only 70% effective and only lasts a few months— IMHO mask-wearing will fade away in the USA.

My point being, most folks who think we SHOULD wear masks still sure as heck don’t WANT to. That’s all.

Looking into my crystal ball, I would guess the medical advice in February or March of 2021 would go something like this:
Don’t want to get the vaccine, or haven’t had a chance to receive it yet? Then please wear a mask when near others.
Already received the vaccine? Then it’s cool if you choose to not wear a mask, because your chances of infecting others have been vastly reduced.

Just my guess as to how things will play out.

And yeah, sounds like a strong chance that the initial vaccine might only provide partial protection and for only a few months.Wouldn’t be surprised if we need to get the vaccine every six months or so.

 

[Force16X]

as i read columns, threads, websites, etc. et al, i learn about how this virus is making a mess of things. everyday life is quite different than just 5 months ago. people began to get upset about being told what to do because they have rights. people began to get upset because first march madness was cancelled. then concerts. then bars and restaurants. then this, then that. people began accusing other countries causing their newfound duress. then it started to not be as bad. things looked better. time to reopen. arguments over reopening. now things are getting worse again.

at first i joined in discussions about hoaxes, germ warfare, espionage, virusgate, racism, classism, etc etc. then i backed away trying not to be lured in by emotions alone. after a couple weeks, watching colbert, meyers and noah was a daily routine along with twitter reading from our "Commode in chief".
after a couple of more weeks i would just see if there were new "rules" , "regulations" on how to live in pandemic times.

during all of this i have really had no backlash from the virus into my life. my wife and I believe we had a milder form of it before it became all the rage, back in early february. after that, i continued to work as a newly crowned "essential" employee and she got her wish of 10 years and was told to work from home until whenever normal returns.

so since this all got started in january, all i have lost out on was going to college hockey games and a weekly trip to either my favorite chinese restaurant or greek restaurant. my life hasnt changed. i've made every payment on every bill, had no fear of loss for food...................except for butter for the first month, and somehow survived the toilet paper crisis.

so even though i can see, read, hear about how awful this has been with the virus, i've had zero effects on my life except for now having to wear a mask at work where i have a low % of human contact while making chemical coatings for many things including progresso soup can linings. (essentialism).
so without me going through all the threads (i'm a slacker), has anyone here had a direct issue (has had covid19 or personally knows someone who has had it or even has had their lives upended from the normality of january 1st ?) .

i'm not questioning the seriousness of the situation, i'm just asking for more than just what i see on social media, (which is so obtuse i really dont know what to believe about covid 19 anymore). maybe i'm asking to be educated about whats going on (not with the rioting), just with covid 19. it's like all this is going on and i'm able to stand back and not be emotional about it due to not being affected by it. i'm certainly not complaining about the lack of how my life has not changed much since january 1 as many others' seems to have, but maybe its like driving by an accident on the highway with police cars and emergency vehicles everywhere and never knowing what happened although i'd like to know what happened. I guess. so like the dogs with the titled head in the cartoon i posted in another thread, maybe i need it explained better. thanks.

 

[Loyal]

Although I go on and on about how I wish more Americans would wear masks (in prudent situations), I readily admit I despise wearing the damn things.
I wear them when I have to, but they’re hot, stuffy, and super uncomfortable. I hate not being able to see expressions, too.

I dunno, but my guess is that once a vaccine is widely distributed—even if it’s only 70% effective and only lasts a few months— IMHO mask-wearing will fade away in the USA.

My point being, most folks who think we SHOULD wear masks still sure as heck don’t WANT to. That’s all.

Looking into my crystal ball, I would guess the medical advice in February or March of 2021 would go something like this:
Don’t want to get the vaccine, or haven’t had a chance to receive it yet? Then please wear a mask when near others.
Already received the vaccine? Then it’s cool if you choose to not wear a mask, because your chances of infecting others have been vastly reduced.

Just my guess as to how things will play out.

And yeah, sounds like a strong chance that the initial vaccine might only provide partial protection and for only a few months.Wouldn’t be surprised if we need to get the vaccine every six months or so.

To say that I don't agree, is an understatement. There is a strong political element here that I won't discuss, that is just as important, if not more so than any medical argument. Otherwise, churches would not be closed while casinos are open in Nevada, for instance. Same goes for the ongoing riots and the apparent lack of curiosity about COVID transmission in such scenarios, because they don't want to know.
Beyond that, I have read of doctors who want to make mask wearing (after COVID) into a question of decency. I think people who constantly fear germs see this as their opportunity to control behavior they have never liked. For others it seems to be a mass social experiment to see how easily Americans will submit to authority. If so, they have to love the results.

 

[XXXIVwin]

To say that I don't agree, is an understatement. There is a strong political element here that I won't discuss, that is just as important, if not more so than any medical argument. Otherwise, churches would not be closed while casinos are open in Nevada, for instance. Same goes for the ongoing riots and the apparent lack of curiosity about COVID transmission in such scenarios, because they don't want to know.
Beyond that, I have read of doctors who want to make mask wearing (after COVID) into a question of decency. I think people who constantly fear germs see this as their opportunity to control behavior they have never liked. For others it seems to be a mass social experiment to see how easily Americans will submit to authority. If so, they have to love the results.

All I can say is, I’m with ya on hoping your concerns don’t become reality. I’m in favor of ppl wearing masks (near others) as long as there is a pandemic without a vaccine. But beyond that, no way.

After the pandemic subsides, will the USA become Germaphobe Nation? I sure hope not.

When it comes to food on the floor, I’m more of a “five day rule” guy than a “five -second rule” guy ... a little “floor spice” just adds extra flavor.

Cheers

 

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After the pandemic subsides, will the USA become Germaphobe Nation? I sure hope not.

That's a legitimate concern. I don't *think* so, but I do think the germ police will remain. I'm fairly certain that by the next time flu season rolls around, there will be people on social media demanding people wear masks. Especially when the CDC starts releasing flu death number updates. They don't typically do that, but I fear they're gonna start.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

 

[Dieter the Brock]

Satya the subject of my movie is in Cedars with C19 - it’s not looking good

Fuck this shit

 

[Faceplant]

Nature study identifies 21 existing drugs that could treat COVID-19 | Sanford Burnham Prebys

www.sbpdiscovery.org

Multiple drugs improve the activity of remdesivir, a current standard-of-care treatment for COVID-19

A Nature study authored by a global team of scientists and led by Sumit Chanda, Ph.D., professor at Sanford Burnham Prebys Medical Discovery Institute, has identified 21 existing drugs that stop the replication of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

Sumit Chanda, Ph.D., director and professor of Sanford Burnham Prebys’ Immunity and Pathogenesis Program and senior author of the Nature study that identifies 21 potential near-term COVID-19 treatments.
The scientists analyzed one of the world’s largest collections of known drugs for their ability to block the replication of SARS-CoV-2, and reported 100 molecules with confirmed antiviral activity in laboratory tests. Of these, 21 drugs were determined to be effective at concentrations that could be safely achieved in patients. Notably, four of these compounds were found to work synergistically with remdesivir, a current standard-of-care treatment for COVID-19.

“Remdesivir has proven successful at shortening the recovery time for patients in the hospital, but the drug doesn't work for everyone who receives it. That’s not good enough,” says Chanda, director of the Immunity and Pathogenesis Program at Sanford Burnham Prebys and senior author of the study. “As infection rates continue to rise in America and around the world, the urgency remains to find affordable, effective, and readily available drugs that can complement the use of remdesivir, as well as drugs that could be given prophylactically or at the first sign of infection on an outpatient basis.”


Extensive testing conducted

In the study, the research team performed extensive testing and validation studies, including evaluating the drugs on human lung biopsies that were infected with the virus, evaluating the drugs for synergies with remdesivir, and establishing dose-response relationships between the drugs and antiviral activity.

Of the 21 drugs that were effective at blocking viral replication, the scientists found:

• 13 have previously entered clinical trials for other indications and are effective at concentrations, or doses, that could potentially be safely achieved in COVID-19 patients.
• Two are already FDA approved: astemizole (allergies), clofazamine (leprosy), and remdesivir has received Emergency Use Authorization from the agency (COVID-19).
• Four worked synergistically with remdesivir, including the chloroquine derivative hanfangchin A (tetrandrine), an antimalarial drug that has reached Phase 3 clinical trials.

Sumit Chanda, Ph.D., a professor at Sanford Burnham Prebys, shows the experimental assays that test for compounds that may treat COVID-19.
“This study significantly expands the possible therapeutic options for COVID-19 patients, especially since many of the molecules already have clinical safety data in humans,” says Chanda. “This report provides the scientific community with a larger arsenal of potential weapons that may help bring the ongoing global pandemic to heel.”

The researchers are currently testing all 21 compounds in small animal models and “mini lungs,” or lung organoids, that mimic human tissue. If these studies are favorable, the team will approach the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to discuss a clinical trial(s) evaluating the drugs as treatments for COVID-19.

“Based on our current analysis, clofazimine, hanfangchin A, apilimod and ONO 5334 represent the best near-term options for an effective COVID-19 treatment,” says Chanda. “While some of these drugs are currently in clinical trials for COVID-19, we believe it’s important to pursue additional drug candidates so we have multiple therapeutic options if SARS-CoV-2 becomes drug resistant.”


Screening one of the world’s largest drug libraries

The drugs were first identified by high-throughput screening of more than 12,000 drugs from the ReFRAME drug repurposing collection—the most comprehensive drug repurposing collection of compounds that have been approved by the FDA for other diseases or that have been tested extensively for human safety. ReFRAME was created by Calibr, the drug discovery division of Scripps Research, with support from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

Arnab Chatterjee, Ph.D., vice president of medicinal chemistry at Calibr and co-author on the paper, says reframe was established to tackle areas of urgent unmet medical need, especially neglected tropical diseases. “We realized early in the COVID-19 pandemic that ReFRAME would be an invaluable resource for screening for drugs to repurpose against the novel coronavirus,” says Chatterjee.

Laura Riva, Ph.D., a postdoctoral research fellow in the Chanda lab at Sanford Burnham Prebys, tests for existing drugs that may treat COVID-19.
The drug screen was completed as rapidly as possible due to Chanda’s partnership with the scientist who discovered the first SARS virus, Kwok-Yung Yuen, M.D., chair of Infectious Diseases at the University of Hong Kong; and Shuofeng Yuan, Ph.D., assistant research professor in the Department of Microbiology at the University of Hong Kong, who had access to the SARS-CoV-2 virus in February 2020.


About the ReFRAME library

ReFRAME was created by Calibr, the drug discovery division of Scripps Research, under the leadership of President Peter Shultz, Ph.D., with support from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. It has been distributed broadly to nonprofit collaborators and used to identify repurposing opportunities for a range of disease, including tuberculosis, a parasite called Cryptosporidium and fibrosis.


A global team

The first authors of the study are Laura Riva, Ph.D., a postdoctoral research fellow in the Chanda lab at Sanford Burnham Prebys; and Shuofeng Yuan at the University of Hong Kong, who contributed equally to the study. Additional study authors include Xin Yin, Laura Martin-Sancho, Naoko Matsunaga, Lars Pache, Paul De Jesus, Kristina Herbert, Peter Teriete, Yuan Pu, Courtney Nguyen and Andrey Rubanov of Sanford Burnham Prebys; Jasper Fuk-Woo Chan, Jianli Cao, Vincent Poon, Ko-Yung Sit and Kwok-Yung Yuen of the University of Hong Kong; Sebastian Burgstaller-Muehlbacher, Andrew Su, Mitchell V. Hull, Tu-Trinh Nguyen, Peter G. Schultz and Arnab K. Chatterjee of Scripps Research; Max Chang and Christopher Benner of UC San Diego School of Medicine; Luis Martinez-Sobrido, Wen-Chun Liu, Lisa Miorin, Kris M. White, Jeffrey R. Johnson, Randy Albrecht, Angela Choi, Raveen Rathnasinghe, Michael Schotsaert, Marion Dejosez, Thomas P. Zwaka and Adolfo Garcia-Sastre of the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai; Ren Sun of UCLA; Kuoyuan Cheng of the National Cancer Institute and the University of Maryland; Eytan Ruppin of the National Cancer Institute; Mackenzie E. Chapman, Emma K. Lendy and Andrew D. Mesecar of Purdue University; and Richard J. Glynne of Inception Therapeutics.



View: https://youtu.be/BEkgvviqaf4



Research reported in this press release was supported by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) (U19AI118610, U19AI135972, HHSN272201700060C, GM132024, HHSN272201400008C, HR0011-19-2-0020, U19AI142733), the Department of Defense (DoD) (W81XWH-20-1-0270), the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Dinah Ruch, Susan and James Blair, Richard Yu and Carol Yu, the Shaw Foundation of Hong Kong, Michael Seak-Kan Tong, May Tam Mak Mei Yin, the Health and Medical Research Fund (COVID190121), the Food and Health Bureau, the Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region; the National Program on Key Research Project of China (2020YFA0707500, 2020YFA0707504), Research Grants Council (T11/707/15), the Huffington Foundation, the JPB Foundation, the Open Philanthropy Project (2020-215611 [5384]) and anonymous donors.

 

[12intheBox]

so even though i can see, read, hear about how awful this has been with the virus, i've had zero effects on my life except for now having to wear a mask at work where i have a low % of human contact while making chemical coatings for many things including progresso soup can linings. (essentialism).
so without me going through all the threads (i'm a slacker), has anyone here had a direct issue (has had covid19 or personally knows someone who has had it or even has had their lives upended from the normality of january 1st ?) .

We have a member (and contributor to this thread) who has it right now - and is fighting symptoms. (Page 119)

I know several people who have it - one in the hospital in Florida.

 

[bluecoconuts]

To say that I don't agree, is an understatement. There is a strong political element here that I won't discuss, that is just as important, if not more so than any medical argument. Otherwise, churches would not be closed while casinos are open in Nevada, for instance. Same goes for the ongoing riots and the apparent lack of curiosity about COVID transmission in such scenarios, because they don't want to know.
Beyond that, I have read of doctors who want to make mask wearing (after COVID) into a question of decency. I think people who constantly fear germs see this as their opportunity to control behavior they have never liked. For others it seems to be a mass social experiment to see how easily Americans will submit to authority. If so, they have to love the results.

The government doesn’t need to do social experiments like mask wearing to determine how much someone would or wouldn’t submit to authority, in fact it would be a terrible way to determine that, given you’ll have people who will oppose masks and support government curfew to curb protests, and they’ll even come up with excuses as why it’s not only excusable but a good thing. That flips as well, people will protest the government but wear a mask, which shows how poor of a determination that is. Given the entire point is to see if a person would be willing to stand up to the government.

There are so many more subtle ways to figure that out, including their shopping/spending habits. You know why companies are able to tell when a young woman is pregnant before she even knows? Because they collect data on you from everything. If the government was interested they’d just go through Google, that’s what other companies and countries do.

 

[Loyal]

The government doesn’t need to do social experiments like mask wearing to determine how much someone would or wouldn’t submit to authority, in fact it would be a terrible way to determine that, given you’ll have people who will oppose masks and support government curfew to curb protests, and they’ll even come up with excuses as why it’s not only excusable but a good thing. That flips as well, people will protest the government but wear a mask, which shows how poor of a determination that is. Given the entire point is to see if a person would be willing to stand up to the government.

There are so many more subtle ways to figure that out, including their shopping/spending habits. You know why companies are able to tell when a young woman is pregnant before she even knows? Because they collect data on you from everything. If the government was interested they’d just go through Google, that’s what other companies and countries do.

I don't think I said the government, like the national government, although there could be agents within the national government involved in it. Gauging actual opposition is the point and how fear is used to get people to sacrifice liberty for safety. It is not a finely tuned analysis like Google could provide and something more...Marxian.

 

[oldnotdead]

For those that think kids can't get COVID 19 look at the reports coming out of FL. The official records show that on July 16 there were 23,170 cases of COVID 19 in kids 17 years old and younger. That spiked to 31,150 on July 24th with 303 of them requiring hospitalization. Reports out of South Korea have shown that children transmit the disease as easily as anyone else.

FL is still on track to open schools in a few weeks. This is utter insanity. Sure the mortality rate isn't huge but no one is tracking the long term health effects of the disease. We know about the clotting, but disturbing reports of lingering effects including dizziness and confusion among those who have supposedly recovered are common.

Handle the disease first and when the curve is not only flattened but on the downward trend you can figure out ways to jumpstart the economy. It's not like we haven't done that before. Priorities people, we need to get our priorities straight. Cure the people first then cure the economy.

Even one preventable death is one too many. I've personally have lost my best friend, and two family members to this disease. It's no hoax, it's very real and just as deadly as they say.

 

[bluecoconuts]

I don't think I said the government, like the national government, although there could be agents within the national government involved in it. Gauging actual opposition is the point and how fear is used to get people to sacrifice liberty for safety. It is not a finely tuned analysis like Google could provide and something more...Marxian.

I’m afraid I’m not sure I see how mask wearing is a good example of people willing to sacrifice liberty for safety, when we have literal mass protests and in some cases riots centralized around that very idea. So someone may look at people who scream about mask wearing and not federal officers snatching people off the streets in unmarked vans as giant hypocrites, not someone who would be willing to skirt authority. The only thing that tells me, as someone who used to be involved in the extremely lower levels of classifying an individual, is that I potentially have to alter my message to get that person to comply. It’s about about their willingness to comply, it’s about who they get their marching orders from. Where you stand is where you sit, it’s pretty easy to make those types of determination with not a lot of data. The more data points people give, and everything we do is handing data points over, the more complete of a photo they have of you.

I mean, they already have your photo. They know your favorite movies, and songs and foods, your daily/weekly routine, where you go and when, what you’re buying, what websites you visit, your porn preference, political leanings, how likely you are to respond to various types of overt and covert propaganda, which isles you go down at the friggin store, they know it all.

What I’m saying is there is so much information out there already, nothing you do is secret. You can be “found“ or tracked based on your favorite cereal brand, your electronics can, and likely have been at least once, be compromised and your cameras recorders activated without you even knowing. Government has had that technology for years, hackers even longer. Not that they really need to hack since most people just give that information up freely. That age yourself app that was all the rage a few years ago? Gave the app company, which was foreign, Russian I believe, access to ALL photos on a device. More than that, it gave them the legal right to take those photos and do whatever they wanted with them. Talk about a huge invasion of privacy that people willingly just gave up.

What does mask wearing tell them that they don’t already know? Especially given how public mask wearing is, you have no idea if the person behind the mask is happy or seething because they hate it. Indications about how much they might bend to peer pressure, which can be done with a simple social media meme/trend, just doesn’t seem useful to me.

I get the logic behind the idea, but I just don’t see the usefulness of it, given there are so many better ways that tell much more that are being used all over.

 

[Loyal]

I’m afraid I’m not sure I see how mask wearing is a good example of people willing to sacrifice liberty for safety, when we have literal mass protests and in some cases riots centralized around that very idea. So someone may look at people who scream about mask wearing and not federal officers snatching people off the streets in unmarked vans as giant hypocrites, not someone who would be willing to skirt authority. The only thing that tells me, as someone who used to be involved in the extremely lower levels of classifying an individual, is that I potentially have to alter my message to get that person to comply. It’s about about their willingness to comply, it’s about who they get their marching orders from. Where you stand is where you sit, it’s pretty easy to make those types of determination with not a lot of data. The more data points people give, and everything we do is handing data points over, the more complete of a photo they have of you.

I mean, they already have your photo. They know your favorite movies, and songs and foods, your daily/weekly routine, where you go and when, what you’re buying, what websites you visit, your porn preference, political leanings, how likely you are to respond to various types of overt and covert propaganda, which isles you go down at the friggin store, they know it all.

What I’m saying is there is so much information out there already, nothing you do is secret. You can be “found“ or tracked based on your favorite cereal brand, your electronics can, and likely have been at least once, be compromised and your cameras recorders activated without you even knowing. Government has had that technology for years, hackers even longer. Not that they really need to hack since most people just give that information up freely. That age yourself app that was all the rage a few years ago? Gave the app company, which was foreign, Russian I believe, access to ALL photos on a device. More than that, it gave them the legal right to take those photos and do whatever they wanted with them. Talk about a huge invasion of privacy that people willingly just gave up.

What does mask wearing tell them that they don’t already know? Especially given how public mask wearing is, you have no idea if the person behind the mask is happy or seething because they hate it. Indications about how much they might bend to peer pressure, which can be done with a simple social media meme/trend, just doesn’t seem useful to me.

I get the logic behind the idea, but I just don’t see the usefulness of it, given there are so many better ways that tell much more that are being used all over.

Well, I can't go much further without getting political. As for this:

" So someone may look at people who scream about mask wearing and not federal officers snatching people off the streets in unmarked vans as giant hypocrites, not someone who would be willing to skirt authority."

This is the MSM narrative. You forgot to add the other part that makes it seem even more sinister, however false, federal forces not in uniform. DHS officials say they picked up those who matched descriptions (video, etc) of those attacking police and inciting riots in the "peaceful protests." Most were held for questioning for no longer than 90 minutes and released, unless questioning led to arrest. The DHS and US Marshals did not have name tags but had visible badge numbers and were in uniforrm. They did this because scumbags had doxed them and their families, in other protests. Unmarked vehicles are standard in every police department in the nation. Grabbing those who may be responsible for crimes away from the heat of rioters is smart police work.

Message to ANTIFA & other Marxists: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Forcing people to wear masks when doctors have changed their positions over the last few months as to their effectiveness, makes citizens doubt what they are being told. Inconsistency pisses people off, and it's open ended. Hypocrisy? BS

 

[RamBall]

We have a member (and contributor to this thread) who has it right now - and is fighting symptoms. (Page 119)

I know several people who have it - one in the hospital in Florida.

I am currently in day 1 of no symptoms. I should be returning to work very soon as long as the short term disability claim I was forced to open doesnt mess things up worse than covid did. I spoke with my boss's boss and he was glad to hear I'm feeling much better, but HR wants me to open a disability claim. So now I need a medical release from my Dr. But I'm gonna push to return to work on 8/1, dont want to burn my sick time. We have 120 hrs of covid based PTO and if I return on 8/1 I will still have 20 hrs left. While the last 2 weeks have sucked, it could have been worse, I didnt need any medical treatment.The tech ops manager I spoke with today told me that so far I am the only person out of our shop to test positive and the 2nd person he knows to have covid and neither of us needed treatment.
My best friend is a maintenance engineer in a local hospital and he says they have had about 120 covid patients at all times for the past 3-4 weeks and as soon as 1 passes another comes in to take their place. It appears that people either need no treatment or they require ICU care.
Thank you to all that have wished me well. It looks like I have beat covid and I'm ready to go back to work. July has been the longest yr of my life and quarantine sucks. My wife managed to not catch covid even though we have been quarantined in the same house for the past 2 weeks.