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Who said we lost that game because of JG? Crazy talk. He played great, a warrior in fact.

It was our D (which I blame on a distracted coordinator who went lazy zone against the one guy that could pick you apart to death). If he simply played aggressively (like the Bucs), we win that game by 10.
I didn't brother, he played really well. Just some people you know?

I agree with you, the D was why we lost. Just not what we saw all year, sadly.
 

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I hear the "fire under Rodgers argument" and I am not sure I am buying that one either.

These guys are professional athletes, playing the most difficult position to play in all of sports. I don't think there are many fires that need to be lit under these kind of competitive people.
Especially guys with big ego like Rodgers. Dude just came off a 13-3 season when he went for 4k yards 26/4 TD/INT. They lost in playoffs because San Fran ran all over them.
He's the last person on that team who needed a fire lit under
 

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The fact that kicking a FG was even an option on that series is probably the bigger problem. 1st and goal at the 8 has to be 4 down territory (save a sack or penalty driving them backwards)
Better them than us, although I have to think there's got to be some bad blood building between Arod and LaFail
Its getting more difficult to predict what some of these coaches will do.
The two point conversion has made the game interesting, but i have no doubt it can create tension amongst coaches and players.

I would have gone for it on 4th down.
 

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There was a lot of uncalled penalties in this game. I was actually surprised on that too. I'm all for letting them play but some actually did effect the outcome, I think anyway.
This is opening an old wound for me. I hated the way the league was forced to put in the PI review, then completely ignored it because they knew it would be voted out again after the season.

<Puts on tin foil hat>

It's almost as if the league WANTS for there to be as many subjective penalty calls as possible. The old expression "They could call holding on every play!" is supposed to justify a missed call, but I think it just proves that they want control over WHEN they decide to call it.

It gives them a lever to play with, in another words. This game showed another lever. Pass interference. They can decide when to apply the rule based on the outcome they want to force. Brady is the better story. SB in Tampa? Got it. No problem, Sir.

Think about the "possession" kurfuffle from a few years back. Dez Bryant caused quite a stir and we went through hard times deciding when a receiver actually had possession of the ball. Announcers made fun of the fact nobody really knew how to interpret the rule. But now, after going through the pain, we've come out the other side with everyone understanding it (including the lame announcers). We are never really surprised by the stands/confirmed/reversed decision. If we put the same effort behind interference, we could be there as well.

But THEY DON'T WANT THAT.

Another situation like the Rams unstoppable offense in the SB, 17 point favorites against a nationally heroic 9/11 PATRIOTS? No problem, we'll let them tackle the eligible receivers...

OK I'm done.
 

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NFL Rumors burning now with Aaron Rodgers to LA Rams
Bret Stuter

5-7 minutes


Mandatory Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports

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Are the LA Rams suddenly the desired team to play for by some of the best NFL quarterbacks who may be available in 2021? On ESPN’s Pat McAfee show, Adam Schefter talks openly on air about the possibility of Aaron Rodgers to refuse to play for the Green Bay Packers and force a trade to the LA Rams. What gives? Well, we know that the LA Rams are embroiled in a bit of quarterback controversy. On ESPN’s Get UP, Adam Schefter made the following statement at the 0:10 mark:
‘ And if Aaron Rodgers tells Green Bay, and I’m not saying he will, but if he tells them ‘I’m not showing up there again and I want to go play in LA’? Guess what? The Packers are stuck!’
And he’s right. But then the counterpoint is made. The LA Rams do not have the three or four first-round picks to trade for Rodgers. Oh really?
LISTEN TO SCHEFTY @danorlovsky7 @GetUpESPN pic.twitter.com/X2hH9tovKk
— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) January 25, 2021
There is a reason why Adam Schefter casually tossed Aaron Rodgers’ name out in a public claim that he may want to play for the LA Rams. Since Matt LeFleur left the LA Rams after the 2018 NFL season, he spent one season as the offensive coordinator for the Tenessee Titans before taking over the helm at Green Bay to become the head coach of the Packers. And the first thing he did was install an offense that is very similar to run by the Rams’ head coach Sean McVay.
Also, Aaron Rodgers has roots in California. In fact, he spent his childhood in Chico, California, a wonderful community north of Sacramento and Yuba City. That fact is never out of Aaron Rodgers’s mind, as he frequently makes headlines due to that fact. He remains a very generous donor to the University of California in support of their football program. And it’s always a topic of discussion when he plays a team from California.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Right now, a cloud of smoke is hovering over the LA Rams. The LA Rams have been mentioned as a possible destination for Houston Texans’ quarterback Deshaun Watson. The Rams have been named as a possible willing trade partner for Detroit Lions’ quarterback Matthew Stafford. And now, the LA Rams are named as a possible team that Aaron Rodgers wants to play for.
It’s hard to deny the potential of a scenario of Aaron Rodgers joining the LA Rams. That union would be as electrifying to the LA Rams as when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers landed free-agent quarterback Tom Brady. And landing Rodgers would certainly be the Granddaddy of blockbuster trades for the Rams, wouldn’t it? It would be a splash move so big that it would lock up the Los Angeles market by the Rams for years to come.
What’s going on in the NFL right now? Well, some very reputable persons are tossing the LA Rams name into the ring for some of the top NFL quarterbacks, at a time when the Rams are themselves visibly displaying frustration over their quarterback play. Will something definitely happen with the Rams and quarterback Jared Goff? Perhaps not.
A year ago, similar NFL Rumors surfaced that the Rams would be moving away from veteran running back Todd Gurley and wide receiver Brandin Cooks. Two months later, both were gone. Either there is a grain of truth to the rumors where the Rams are seeking a new face at their quarterback position. Or, at the least, someone in the NFL wishes the public to believe that they are actively looking to upgrade.
 

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The worst part is he had that on second AND third down and passed it up. If he runs on either, and DOESN'T GET IN, they still either score on 3rd down, or have a yard or so on 4th and run it instead of kick the FG.

They SHOULD be yelling at him!
Yeah, a week ago Rodgers head fakes Floyd and skips in...I don’t know what he was thinking to not take off and run on 3rd down.

Nobody is talking FG and Tit Brady, if he does.
 

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It's growing increasingly clear that Jared Goff has a lot of work to do to get back in the good graces of his head coach.
 

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NFL Rumors burning now with Aaron Rodgers to LA Rams
Bret Stuter

5-7 minutes


Mandatory Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports

Mandatory Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports

Are the LA Rams suddenly the desired team to play for by some of the best NFL quarterbacks who may be available in 2021? On ESPN’s Pat McAfee show, Adam Schefter talks openly on air about the possibility of Aaron Rodgers to refuse to play for the Green Bay Packers and force a trade to the LA Rams. What gives? Well, we know that the LA Rams are embroiled in a bit of quarterback controversy. On ESPN’s Get UP, Adam Schefter made the following statement at the 0:10 mark:

And he’s right. But then the counterpoint is made. The LA Rams do not have the three or four first-round picks to trade for Rodgers. Oh really?

There is a reason why Adam Schefter casually tossed Aaron Rodgers’ name out in a public claim that he may want to play for the LA Rams. Since Matt LeFleur left the LA Rams after the 2018 NFL season, he spent one season as the offensive coordinator for the Tenessee Titans before taking over the helm at Green Bay to become the head coach of the Packers. And the first thing he did was install an offense that is very similar to run by the Rams’ head coach Sean McVay.
Also, Aaron Rodgers has roots in California. In fact, he spent his childhood in Chico, California, a wonderful community north of Sacramento and Yuba City. That fact is never out of Aaron Rodgers’s mind, as he frequently makes headlines due to that fact. He remains a very generous donor to the University of California in support of their football program. And it’s always a topic of discussion when he plays a team from California.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Right now, a cloud of smoke is hovering over the LA Rams. The LA Rams have been mentioned as a possible destination for Houston Texans’ quarterback Deshaun Watson. The Rams have been named as a possible willing trade partner for Detroit Lions’ quarterback Matthew Stafford. And now, the LA Rams are named as a possible team that Aaron Rodgers wants to play for.
It’s hard to deny the potential of a scenario of Aaron Rodgers joining the LA Rams. That union would be as electrifying to the LA Rams as when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers landed free-agent quarterback Tom Brady. And landing Rodgers would certainly be the Granddaddy of blockbuster trades for the Rams, wouldn’t it? It would be a splash move so big that it would lock up the Los Angeles market by the Rams for years to come.
What’s going on in the NFL right now? Well, some very reputable persons are tossing the LA Rams name into the ring for some of the top NFL quarterbacks, at a time when the Rams are themselves visibly displaying frustration over their quarterback play. Will something definitely happen with the Rams and quarterback Jared Goff? Perhaps not.
A year ago, similar NFL Rumors surfaced that the Rams would be moving away from veteran running back Todd Gurley and wide receiver Brandin Cooks. Two months later, both were gone. Either there is a grain of truth to the rumors where the Rams are seeking a new face at their quarterback position. Or, at the least, someone in the NFL wishes the public to believe that they are actively looking to upgrade.
I highly doubt that Rogers will come to LA, to be the back up to Stafford and Watson.
 

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The worst part is he had that on second AND third down and passed it up. If he runs on either, and DOESN'T GET IN, they still either score on 3rd down, or have a yard or so on 4th and run it instead of kick the FG.

They SHOULD be yelling at him!

Thats why that game was unwatchable for me. I love football but Rodgers arrogance bothers me. Plus Brady has just been around too long. Someone had to win
 

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The Packers' defense gave Aaron plenty of opportunity in the second half. I don't mind the Bucs defense, that's a good group of players there. And Aaron did drive them down.

The fourth down FG? I don't get the hate. You have to play the odds there. Going for it on 4th is all or nothing. Let's say they don't convert, now the Bucs can force them to use the rest of the timeouts, and assuming they don't get another first down to end it, they punt and give the ball back to GB with no timeouts left. Now they have to get 8 points just to tie. That is a tall order.

Taking the FG, I can see what they were thinking. Cut it to a 1 possession game and stop them. All 3 TOs and the 2 minute. Assuming they stopped them, all they need is a TD and not have to worry about the 2 pt. And if TB got the ball back, they probably have little time to work with. And the "greatest" who had 3 picks was vulnerable, so the Pack D may have stopped them.

But it is what it is. I don't blame Aaron for his attitude after the game. It's just reality considering his situation and the Packers. I'm dejected too.

It was already a one possession game. After the field goal they still needed a touchdown.

Their best opportunity to get a touchdown imo was Rodgers making a play from inside the 10 yard line, with arguably a better than even chance of making it. In any case better odds than a whole new drive to get a touchdown.

If you miss the 2 point conversion then you actually need only a field goal.

If you fail to convert the 4th down into a TD then Tampa Bay has to start at its own 8 yard line with concerns about an interception, sack or safety if they pass.

If the D gets a stop GB gets the ball back at midfield, still needing one TD but with likely much better field position than after a field goal, kickoff return, and TB possession.

Bottom line: GB needed a touchdown first and foremost. Their best chance of getting one was going for it, and EVEN IF the 4th down attempt failed.

In this situation you don't take the ball out of the hands of your HOF qb. And if you do, better be prepared to trade him if he's really pissed off.

(And if you had drafted Chase Claypool instead of Jordan Love your odds of scoring on the 4th down conversion or any other play go up significantly.)
 
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NFL Rumors burning now with Aaron Rodgers to LA Rams
Bret Stuter

5-7 minutes


Mandatory Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports

Mandatory Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports

Are the LA Rams suddenly the desired team to play for by some of the best NFL quarterbacks who may be available in 2021? On ESPN’s Pat McAfee show, Adam Schefter talks openly on air about the possibility of Aaron Rodgers to refuse to play for the Green Bay Packers and force a trade to the LA Rams. What gives? Well, we know that the LA Rams are embroiled in a bit of quarterback controversy. On ESPN’s Get UP, Adam Schefter made the following statement at the 0:10 mark:

And he’s right. But then the counterpoint is made. The LA Rams do not have the three or four first-round picks to trade for Rodgers. Oh really?

There is a reason why Adam Schefter casually tossed Aaron Rodgers’ name out in a public claim that he may want to play for the LA Rams. Since Matt LeFleur left the LA Rams after the 2018 NFL season, he spent one season as the offensive coordinator for the Tenessee Titans before taking over the helm at Green Bay to become the head coach of the Packers. And the first thing he did was install an offense that is very similar to run by the Rams’ head coach Sean McVay.
Also, Aaron Rodgers has roots in California. In fact, he spent his childhood in Chico, California, a wonderful community north of Sacramento and Yuba City. That fact is never out of Aaron Rodgers’s mind, as he frequently makes headlines due to that fact. He remains a very generous donor to the University of California in support of their football program. And it’s always a topic of discussion when he plays a team from California.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Right now, a cloud of smoke is hovering over the LA Rams. The LA Rams have been mentioned as a possible destination for Houston Texans’ quarterback Deshaun Watson. The Rams have been named as a possible willing trade partner for Detroit Lions’ quarterback Matthew Stafford. And now, the LA Rams are named as a possible team that Aaron Rodgers wants to play for.
It’s hard to deny the potential of a scenario of Aaron Rodgers joining the LA Rams. That union would be as electrifying to the LA Rams as when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers landed free-agent quarterback Tom Brady. And landing Rodgers would certainly be the Granddaddy of blockbuster trades for the Rams, wouldn’t it? It would be a splash move so big that it would lock up the Los Angeles market by the Rams for years to come.
What’s going on in the NFL right now? Well, some very reputable persons are tossing the LA Rams name into the ring for some of the top NFL quarterbacks, at a time when the Rams are themselves visibly displaying frustration over their quarterback play. Will something definitely happen with the Rams and quarterback Jared Goff? Perhaps not.
A year ago, similar NFL Rumors surfaced that the Rams would be moving away from veteran running back Todd Gurley and wide receiver Brandin Cooks. Two months later, both were gone. Either there is a grain of truth to the rumors where the Rams are seeking a new face at their quarterback position. Or, at the least, someone in the NFL wishes the public to believe that they are actively looking to upgrade.

My mind is totally blown by this rumor. I don’t care how unlikely this is, a man can dream right?
 

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There was a lot of uncalled penalties in this game. I was actually surprised on that too. I'm all for letting them play but some actually did effect the outcome, I think anyway. Hats off to Tampa doing what I thought our D would do (at least slow them down). I don't think the best team won, but unfortunately it means we all gotta hear more GOAT shit...And of course the SB is in Tampa...Sure NFL,,sure.. lol

Exactly- I’m actually cheering for Tampa though. Not a KC fan.
 

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Call me crazy, but I am not sure I want to give up too much for Aaron Rodgers.

is an incredible talent, no doubt. One of the greats. And he clearly still has it - he probably wins MVP this year. But for how much longer? He'll be 38 before the end of the 2021-2022 regular season. Other than Brady, has any QB played at a high level into his 40s? And Rodgers already looked to be on the decline last season, before his resurgence this campaign. There is a reason GB drafted a QB. And Rodgers' resurgence also benefited from a stellar Green Bay o-line, as incredible as Aaron played. We certainly cannot give him that here. And if we somehow can via off-season upgrades, then why not just stick with Goff, who is much younger, we will not need to give up astronomical assets for, and looks very good in his own right when he has time and protection (not to mention the confidence that comes with that, when your QB can start connecting on big plays and stringing weeks of good performances together).

If we were just a QB away, I'd think differently. But this team has a number of holes. And with some key pieces leaving on defence, including our DC, we might well take a notable step back on that side of the ball. I don't think Rodgers is the cure for what ails us.
 

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I'm not so hot on the idea of moving more first round picks for a QB who will retire the moment he wins a Super Bowl. I want this team positioned to keep doing what it has been doing which is being in the mix year to year so that when they do hit on the right things they get that championship.

This is why I prefer they keep Goff and just bring in competition. Honestly the Rams have survived some poor decisions and FA moves by drafting well enough to overcome them but to think that will continue requires a bit more faith than I am willing to put up.

I feel right now like we lucked into a young Hall of Fame head coach and he's still learning. So are the Rams going to be the training wheels organization that he cuts his teeth under before he goes on to win Super Bowls for a better organization? This is my nightmare.
 

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I'm not so hot on the idea of moving more first round picks for a QB who will retire the moment he wins a Super Bowl. I want this team positioned to keep doing what it has been doing which is being in the mix year to year so that when they do hit on the right things they get that championship.

This is why I prefer they keep Goff and just bring in competition. Honestly the Rams have survived some poor decisions and FA moves by drafting well enough to overcome them but to think that will continue requires a bit more faith than I am willing to put up.

I feel right now like we lucked into a young Hall of Fame head coach and he's still learning. So are the Rams going to be the training wheels organization that he cuts his teeth under before he goes on to win Super Bowls for a better organization? This is my nightmare.
I have faith that Kronke and Demoff know what they have in McVay.

I agree with everything you said, in addition to your fear.

I just choose to have faith because if the Rams were stupid enough to "move on" from McVay then that would probably be the last straw for my Fandom. There is an amazing team less than 2 hours from me in KC that I hardly even follow due to my loyalty to the Rams.

I won't be the virgin who gets teased by a stripper just to be left with blueballs.
 

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I have faith that Kronke and Demoff know what they have in McVay.

I agree with everything you said, in addition to your fear.

I just choose to have faith because if the Rams were stupid enough to "move on" from McVay then that would probably be the last straw for my Fandom. There is an amazing team less than 2 hours from me in KC that I hardly even follow due to my loyalty to the Rams.

I won't be the virgin who gets teased by a stripper just to be left with blueballs.
I do think Kroenke and Demoff know what they have in McVay. But my point is that IF the Rams keep making these risky moves for veteran players and get burned it's gonna be rebuild and at that point you lose McVay to another organization who might be better at building a championship roster.
 

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There was a lot of uncalled penalties in this game. I was actually surprised on that too. I'm all for letting them play but some actually did effect the outcome, I think anyway. Hats off to Tampa doing what I thought our D would do (at least slow them down). I don't think the best team won, but unfortunately it means we all gotta hear more GOAT shit...And of course the SB is in Tampa...Sure NFL,,sure.. lol



Brady threw three bad Int’s and a few other floaters and the still lost. I never would have predicted it.
 

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I do think Kroenke and Demoff know what they have in McVay. But my point is that IF the Rams keep making these risky moves for veteran players and get burned it's gonna be rebuild and at that point you lose McVay to another organization who might be better at building a championship roster.
My hope would be that the Rams upper echelon leadership would jettison Snead while giving mcvay a stern spell in the corner with the threat of a switching next time.

Then again, I know that in the event that what you said comes to pass then our fears are most likely realized. Can't say that McVay didnt deserve it and that the Rams wouldn't be justified in that case.
 

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I do think Kroenke and Demoff know what they have in McVay. But my point is that IF the Rams keep making these risky moves for veteran players and get burned it's gonna be rebuild and at that point you lose McVay to another organization who might be better at building a championship roster.

That's more an issue with Snead and Pastoors than with McVay. McVay doesn't sign off on contracts in any way. He may push for a player, but the org can tell him no.

I mean, if McVay went to Snead and said "the only way my offense works is with Watson"... Snead would likely tell him, "well, you better work something out because the Jets already have a Head Coach..."

Now, and this is kinda crappy... Several folks have come out after that report that Watson prefers NY or Miami (which I thought was weird, but w/e. I don't know the young man) and said that the person making the report has no access to anyone and thinks the report is fake... as in... it may be a planted story by the FO/ownership because those two teams have the capacity to give the biggest haul in picks.

So, the Watson thing is still a remote possibility, but it doesn't seem to be dead just yet.

The Rodgers thing??? Yeah... I'd be shocked.

I'd actually buy a Rodgers Ram jersey... and wear it... all while STILL hating that fucking smirk... grrrrr. That's how sure I am he's not going anywhere... unless he retires.
 

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So, the Watson thing is still a remote possibility, but it doesn't seem to be dead just yet.

The Rodgers thing??? Yeah... I'd be shocked.
Watson is too good to be true. Rodgers I also hate. But I'd hate him less if he's a Ram lol.

I think this is about kicking Jared in his ass but I might be way off. I'll say this... If I'm Snead and McVay tells me he's done with Goff the only thing you can do is try to identify the best replacement you have the ammo to get.

Watson... Requires a lot of ammo. Rodgers too. Even Stafford I mean two first round picks GTFO. And those guys will have Nawlins, SF, and Chicago sniffin around with more to offer.

This is why if that's the path I think Darnold will be the target. He comes with extra bust risk but he also has upside and worst case McVay is very capable of keeping things simple for him. Again though there's gonna be a shit-ton of competition for some of these guys we are about to see unprecedented QB movement.