Could things get weird in Green Bay?

[OnceARam]

I dont think that's the case at all. You think Rodgers would actually be threatened? Not a chance. No, I think he was pissed off and told the FO that if he couldnt run the offense his way, he wanted to be traded. He tried Laf offense in 19 and it wasnt good. The Love pick is a total embarrassment and they were spared by how well they played.

I see. So you're attributing the mediocrity of the Packers last year to the offensive scheme and not necessarily Rodgers. Sounds like a valid point.

 

[bwdenverram]

Much ado about nothing...

Rodgers, in all his greatness, sh*t the bed.

Kinda makes you wonder what would have happened had AD been at full strength.

Sorry, but completely disagree. Rogers didn't play horrible defense at the end of the first half and give up an unforgiveable TD. He also didn't fumble to start the second half. He was sacked 5 times. What he did do is pass for 346 yards and 3 TDS.
His rating was 101.6.
Uh, I'll take that all day, every day.

 

[OnceARam]

Sorry, but completely disagree. Rogers didn't play horrible defense at the end of the first half and give up an unforgiveable TD. He also didn't fumble to start the second half. He was sacked 5 times. What he did do is pass for 346 yards and 3 TDS.
His rating was 101.6.
Uh, I'll take that all day, every day.

I believe the conversation was about the three plays leading up to the decision to kick the field goal. Context is important, my man.

 

[bwdenverram]

I believe the conversation was about the three plays leading up to the decision to kick the field goal. Context is important, my man.

You said Rogers Shit the bed, that's what I was replying to. IMO, he wasn't why they lost. Just like we didn't lose to GB because of Goff.
If anything they lost because of defense and bad TO's that killed momentum.
And I also agree, going for the FG on 4th down was just not a good decision.

 

[So Ram]

You said Rogers Shit the bed, that's what I was replying to. IMO, he wasn't why they lost. Just like we didn't lose to GB because of Goff.
If anything they lost because of defense and bad TO's that killed momentum.
And I also agree, going for the FG on 4th down was just not a good decision.

What about the Timeout with less 14 seconds on 4th down & then giving up a 40 hrs TD? The missed holding call late on the PI was crap.Yeah the D got caught,but the Ref’s protect Brady when they don’t make that call.

 

[The Ramowl]

The odds are to go for the TD, because you dont know if you are going to get another shot. And if you do get another shot, you will still need to score a Touchdown. There's literally no defense of that decision. They run a play, and miss and Tampa gets ball somewhere from goal line to 8 yard line. They arent playing fast and loose like they did from their 30.

Yes exactly because even with the field goal you will need a TD. This is by all means a suboptimal decision and it's mind boggling they have chosen that, terrible coaching.

 

[Angry Ram]

The odds are to go for the TD, because you dont know if you are going to get another shot. And if you do get another shot, you will still need to score a Touchdown. There's literally no defense of that decision. They run a play, and miss and Tampa gets ball somewhere from goal line to 8 yard line. They arent playing fast and loose like they did from their 30.

If they went for it:

Best case - TD and two point

Middle - TD and no two point

Worst case - no score, but still need a TD and two point with minimal time against a good D>.

Kick a FG:

Best case - force a three and out and need a GW TD

Worst case - can't stop them, which is ultimately what happened.

I can see both ways. My point is even though they would still need to get a TD but without worrying about the 2 pt. Again the Bucs D is really good and basically neutralized the Packers the whole second half.

 

[dieterbrock]

If they went for it:

Best case - TD and two point

Middle - TD and no two point

Worst case - no score, but still need a TD and two point with minimal time against a good D>.

Kick a FG:

Best case - force a three and out and need a GW TD

Worst case - can't stop them, which is ultimately what happened.

I can see both ways. My point is even though they would still need to get a TD but without worrying about the 2 pt. Again the Bucs D is really good and basically neutralized the Packers the whole second half.

The worse case scenario is not getting the ball back. And in reality, it was at best 50/50 they get ball back being that Tampa didnt have a 3 and out in the whole game.
They needed to score a TD whether they kicked FG or not, and needed a stop. The field goal basically did nothing.
Not to mention, I thought the decision to go for 2 was dumb itself, but that one at least could be debated

 

[Dodgersrf]

The odds are to go for the TD, because you dont know if you are going to get another shot. And if you do get another shot, you will still need to score a Touchdown. There's literally no defense of that decision. They run a play, and miss and Tampa gets ball somewhere from goal line to 8 yard line. They arent playing fast and loose like they did from their 30.

I wasn't completely surprised when they opted for the FG.
I thought it was a possibility, but it wasn't the decision I would have made.
I'm sure Rodgers was pissed about it, but he did have 3 wasted opportunities.

 

[Varg6]

The worse case scenario is not getting the ball back. And in reality, it was at best 50/50 they get ball back being that Tampa didnt have a 3 and out in the whole game.
They needed to score a TD whether they kicked FG or not, and needed a stop. The field goal basically did nothing.
Not to mention, I thought the decision to go for 2 was dumb itself, but that one at least could be debated

My assumption to this was them holding TB to a fg, getting the ball back with enough time to get a TD. As opposed to 4th down, not getting it, TB getting a fg, and then the game is officially over. Regardless, he should’ve went for it on 4th down.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Much ado about nothing...

Rodgers, in all his greatness, sh*t the bed.

Kinda makes you wonder what would have happened had AD been at full strength.

If the Rams don’t shot the bed to end the season and things went right then they have a bye week and AD does not get injured and they play fresh while the Packers need a rest.

Too much woulda coulda shoulda. Goff’s couple of bad games, or halves, sank the opportunities. A bad performancr by a single player here or there. Snead’s failure to prioritize a Center in the draft, or an inside linebacker.......Every single move counts. Every team, every front office, every coach, every player should look at it that way all year long. One or two mistakes can bring it all down.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

As much as I didn’t want to see Brady in the Super Bowl, I was pleased to see that smug prick (Rodgers) fail. He always gets angry when other players or coaches don’t perform to his standards, yet he missed opportunities.

I also hated his attitude after defeating the Rams. He acted like it was easy, almost amusing. He gets too full of himself. I was rooting against him.

 

[Loyal]

Wolford for Rodgers, Snead. Make it happen! We'll get Aaron another ring ala David Carr in New England, as Jared's back-up...

 

[dieterbrock]

I wasn't completely surprised when they opted for the FG.
I thought it was a possibility, but it wasn't the decision I would have made.
I'm sure Rodgers was pissed about it, but he did have 3 wasted opportunities.

The fact that kicking a FG was even an option on that series is probably the bigger problem. 1st and goal at the 8 has to be 4 down territory (save a sack or penalty driving them backwards)
Better them than us, although I have to think there's got to be some bad blood building between Arod and LaFail

 

[FaulkSF]

This game really irked me. The Packers executed a great defensive game plan against the Rams. Then they shit the bed against the Bucs. Mistimed jumps, poor tackling, not having adequate safety depth, letting WRs get behind you as the half expired, etc. Truly mind boggling plays! You know Arians loves the deep ball!

Their offensive line looked much worse as well. Giving up pressure on four man rushes and getting shoved back on power rushes. Where was this shoddy performance last week?

With Rodgers' stat line, it's hard to lose a game when playing like that. I tend to agree with him that it was on game plan and player execution as cited above.

My condolences @Packfan18 . What were your thoughts?

 

[GoodBadUgly]

I didn't watch the game , but by seeing the highlights it looks like Rodgers could've ran for the first down and probably a TD before the FG . He's good at blaming others instead of manning up .

The worst part is he had that on second AND third down and passed it up. If he runs on either, and DOESN'T GET IN, they still either score on 3rd down, or have a yard or so on 4th and run it instead of kick the FG.

They SHOULD be yelling at him!

 

[GoodBadUgly]

... Just like we didn't lose to GB because of Goff.
...

Who said we lost that game because of JG? Crazy talk. He played great, a warrior in fact.

It was our D (which I blame on a distracted coordinator who went lazy zone against the one guy that could pick you apart to death). If he simply played aggressively (like the Bucs), we win that game by 10.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I dont think that's the case at all. You think Rodgers would actually be threatened? Not a chance. No, I think he was pissed off and told the FO that if he couldnt run the offense his way, he wanted to be traded. He tried Laf offense in 19 and it wasnt good. The Love pick is a total embarrassment and they were spared by how well they played.

I hear the "fire under Rodgers argument" and I am not sure I am buying that one either.

These guys are professional athletes, playing the most difficult position to play in all of sports. I don't think there are many fires that need to be lit under these kind of competitive people.

Yes exactly because even with the field goal you will need a TD. This is by all means a suboptimal decision and it's mind boggling they have chosen that, terrible coaching.

I can't reconcile the math either.

I have a theory on this... in these crunch decision moments, when you only have seconds to make them... some coaches (young ones) fall into the trap of "showing confidence and patience" as a leader.

That kicking the field goal, somehow sends a message to your team, and shows maturity or something as a leader. I honestly think these thoughts can be fools gold... and in this case, the wrong decision made.

 

[den-the-coach]

Anyone who would consider Rodgers in a trade must believe the Rams are a player away from a championship.

You know during the 90's I used to say the Rams were only three players away from a Super Bowl Title and I would tell everyone:

1. Troy Aikman
2. Emmitt Smith
3. Michael Irvin.

I'm telling you just three players away.

 

[bwdenverram]

What about the Timeout with less 14 seconds on 4th down & then giving up a 40 hrs TD? The missed holding call late on the PI was crap.Yeah the D got caught,but the Ref’s protect Brady when they don’t make that call.

There was a lot of uncalled penalties in this game. I was actually surprised on that too. I'm all for letting them play but some actually did effect the outcome, I think anyway. Hats off to Tampa doing what I thought our D would do (at least slow them down). I don't think the best team won, but unfortunately it means we all gotta hear more GOAT shit...And of course the SB is in Tampa...Sure NFL,,sure.. lol