Could it be that Snead has a couple of surprising draft day trades up his sleeve?

[WestCoastRam]

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[RamsOfCastamere]

Unpopular opinion, but, I think Hekker's time here is done and I don't necessarily disagree with it. Is he a great guy? By all accounts yes. Was he the best punter in football 2 years ago? Yes. Is he now? Evidence would suggest that he is absolutely not, and hasn't been for 2 years. His punts were average to below average last year and I keep wondering what was going on. He is paid as the best punter and its not remotely close. His cap hit is 4.937. Next highest, 3.456 (who had a significantly better season then Hekker). Hekkers was in the lower half of the league in avg punt. Guess who was first? You got it, the guy we signed Bojorquez, who is paid only 1.02 right now. Love you Hekk, but it's a business and we need all the cap $ we can get.

Even though Hekker's net avg dropped, he was still tied for 3rd in punts inside the 20 ( Corey was tied for 19th). That's the more important stat to me, so I'd take that over the 5 yrd difference in gross avg - the difference between Corey and Hekker last season.

EDIT: Also, Corey is tied for 1st in touchbacks as well.

 

[OregonRamsFan]

Let's not make this into another Goff thread please. Goff had his issues but let's focus on Stafford's mobility and his ability to make big plays with his arm. I am also hoping that Stafford's ability to read the field is as good as a lot of you claim. I am not completely convinced yet and I want to see a few games with McVay before I am all in on Stafford.

As sure as the sun rises in the west.

 

[Ballhawk]

I’ve seen no comments on the hypothetical Hekker trade.

Does that mean that everyone is onboard with such a trade?

AS long as we get a couple of first rounders for him I'm good with it!

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Because Hav saves you a lot of cap room next year when you consider they can carry this yrs savings for him over to next yr and next yr he is completely off the books. So combining both cap hit savings for the 22' season where they are up against the cap again.

So moving him now saves about $11-12M on next yrs cap theoretically. That may allow you to sign Williams.

Plus likely gets you a mid round pick.

The cap is expected to rise by quite a bit

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[snackdaddy]

I don't see Snead trading current players on Friday. If he makes any trades it will be either to move up for a certain player or down for more picks. I'm not really in favor of moving offensive line starters. The longer they play together the more continuity they will have. Right now it looks like the only change is at center. Which also appears to be the weak link on that line unless someone like Shelton steps up. Or if Corbett can make the switch.

 

[BonifayRam]

Its may be unpopular because most do not agree. Im one of those that do not agree. Our best offensive line with our current roster is one that includes Havenstein at RT.

Been sayin all along that all we need to do is get a competent center.

Besides, Snead tends to overpay on his trades. Tired of getting raped today and sacraficing tomorrow.

Who says we’re gonna be a passing offense anyway? I prefer a balanced attack. We got a great young runner with fresh legs. Use that, and preserve your new QB

I agree fully with your second sentence. However, I feel strongly that our competent starting center for this upcoming season is already on the roster what I do not know is who it will be in 2022. So securing a future starting OC prospect is a need.

I also agree that in general Snead is very liberal & not very good at bartering with his future draft selections when utilized in trades. So would agree with this too.

I will not be a very happy Ram fan after all that the Rams team gave up & will give up in wealth & assets if the Rams end up not utilizing the great talented armed QB fully. I wonder if a starting RT who regularly permits pass rush presser incoming from his QB's right side, plays in the use of that arm?

Rams top two RB's who just might have fresh legs now, but both have demonstrated early chronic injury issues since they have arrived in the NFL. I feel both should have great games ahead if utilized much more fully in the passing attack.

 

[nighttrain]

a lot of speculation about new Ram center, myself, i would be very happy if it somehow turned out to be Tremayne Anchrum player from a wining program with what has been described as a high level football I Q
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[BonifayRam]

Thinking a little bit outside the box here, I know. But we ARE talking about Trader Les here, sooooo...

I’m still thinking that a Hav trade for pick or a comparable player at a Ram ‘need’ position is a possibility, like WOLB, ILB, CB, OC, or vertical WR?.............................

And heaven knows Snead could put a late 3rd or a decent 4th for Hav to good use in this draft, right? Either would allow Snead to add a quality football player for the future. Not to mention the cap savings to be reinvested in a FA at a ‘need’ position....................................................So, anybody with me?

One element of this 2021 draft class that has been soundly proclaimed & discussed up to this moment ....is the most pathetic overall poorest group of DL prospects in several decades. In other words, this 2021 draft is devoid of interior DL talent.

Currently, Snead is sitting on a strong interior DT cadre of Aaron Donald, D'Shawn Robinson, Sebastian Joseph-Day & Greg Gaines. Three of which have been starters in the NFL. Snead is also sitting on two young DT prospects Marquise Copeland who will enter his 3rd training Camp with the Rams & Michael Hoecht who has extraordinary athleticism for 310lbs. will enter his 2nd TC. That's a high amount in number of interior DT's. As you can see I did exclude the 2 6-5/275 pounds 5 tech DL'ers Eric Banks & Jonah Williams who both are entering their 2nd Ram TC. I wonder if Snead knew last year that this 2021 draft class would be so bad?

Just throwing this out in this thread......Rams certainly have the signed DL resources (Loaded) to be utilized in a possible trade fodder due to the terrible shortage of numbers & talent situation for NFL teams who are badly in need of DL prospects......maybe Snead can help them out:gig:

 

[El Chapo Jr]

One element of this 2021 draft class that has been soundly proclaimed & discussed up to this moment ....is the most pathetic overall poorest group of DL prospects in several decades. In other words, this 2021 draft is devoid of interior DL talent.

Currently, Snead is sitting on a strong interior DT cadre of Aaron Donald, D'Shawn Robinson, Sebastian Joseph-Day & Greg Gaines. Three of which have been starters in the NFL. Snead is also sitting on two young DT prospects Marquise Copeland who will enter his 3rd training Camp with the Rams & Michael Hoecht who has extraordinary athleticism for 310lbs. will enter his 2nd TC. That's a high amount in number of interior DT's. As you can see I did exclude the 2 6-5/275 pounds 5 tech DL'ers Eric Banks & Jonah Williams who both are entering their 2nd Ram TC. I wonder if Snead knew last year that this 2021 draft class would be so bad?

Just throwing this out in this thread......Rams certainly have the signed DL resources (Loaded) to be utilized in a possible trade fodder due to the terrible shortage of numbers & talent situation for NFL teams who are badly in need of DL prospects......maybe Snead can help them out:gig:

I hope you're right. Would love to see Snead fleece someone for once lol.

 

[…..]

I will say this...im a huge lessnead fan from all the way back when he pulled off the deal that netted Julio Jones for Atlanta.

His Ram trades havent been as fruitful as that one but heres the deal.....he has balls of stone man to even get in position to execute those trades. Thats what I love about him. Most of his trades include reliance on past relationships to open doors but hey, thats just a footnote.

 

[Merlin]

Because Hav saves you a lot of cap room next year when you consider they can carry this yrs savings for him over to next yr and next yr he is completely off the books. So combining both cap hit savings for the 22' season where they are up against the cap again.

So moving him now saves about $11-12M on next yrs cap theoretically. That may allow you to sign Williams.

Plus likely gets you a mid round pick.

I viewed Hav as a potential trade piece prior to the offseason. Because if they were to move him they could have chased a FA OL like Linsley and effectively moved money from RT to C. And Edwards I figured would move to RT. From there draft an OG midrounds and our line would have been really nice IMO.

But now... We would lose a really good player and create another hole. It feels like we're short on picks right now as it is.

If they were to trade him to move up in the draft for, say, Cosmi or Eichenberg it could work. Where that OT pick plays right side year one. But then next year if Whit retires we need a RT. Though I guess maybe Edwards slides out and they draft another OT who starts on the interior who knows.

It's an interesting thought. Certainly wouldn't rule it out but seems like it makes the roster build more complicated.

 

[Merlin]

Currently, Snead is sitting on a strong interior DT cadre of Aaron Donald, D'Shawn Robinson, Sebastian Joseph-Day & Greg Gaines. Three of which have been starters in the NFL. Snead is also sitting on two young DT prospects Marquise Copeland who will enter his 3rd training Camp with the Rams & Michael Hoecht who has extraordinary athleticism for 310lbs. will enter his 2nd TC. That's a high amount in number of interior DT's. As you can see I did exclude the 2 6-5/275 pounds 5 tech DL'ers Eric Banks & Jonah Williams who both are entering their 2nd Ram TC. I wonder if Snead knew last year that this 2021 draft class would be so bad?

I suspect Brock not being willing to restructure was a curveball. So I doubt they planned on replacing him.

So much of this comes down to Robinson tbh. I don't trust him. But maybe the Rams do and will be rewarded. To me though they suffered an unforeseen hole at 5T and losing Fox on top of that means we need a 5T. And this draft sucks at 5T. There's options but a lot of question marks in that group IMO.

I could see them draft a NT I guess and then move SJD to 5T. He might be able to handle that. But he's also a FA after the season. And I don't think we're sitting on a bunch of gems on the depth chart though I hope I'm wrong on that.

 

[PhillyRam]

I viewed Hav as a potential trade piece prior to the offseason. Because if they were to move him they could have chased a FA OL like Linsley and effectively moved money from RT to C. And Edwards I figured would move to RT. From there draft an OG midrounds and our line would have been really nice IMO.

But now... We would lose a really good player and create another hole. It feels like we're short on picks right now as it is.

If they were to trade him to move up in the draft for, say, Cosmi or Eichenberg it could work. Where that OT pick plays right side year one. But then next year if Whit retires we need a RT. Though I guess maybe Edwards slides out and they draft another OT who starts on the interior who knows.

It's an interesting thought. Certainly wouldn't rule it out but seems like it makes the roster build more complicated.

I think we have plenty of RT candidates.

LT is thin, but Hav doesn't help you there.

Brewer, Edwards, & Evans all could be RT replacements at a much lower cost. Plus you could find another future RT candidate in the later rounds of this draft while saving over $11M in cap room over the next two yrs and again that savings could all be moved to next yr where they are currently a few 100K over the cap.

 

[Ram65]

Beware of what you ask for. The grass isn't always greener on the other side. I'm sure trader Les has looked into the value of trading Havenstein compared to keeping him along with McVay. Anything is possible with trader Les but, I don't see it happening. The Rams can go into the season with only needing to replace one offensive line at OC which is always better for the line chemistry. havenstein has a relatively cheap contract too.

It all starts with having Stafford and a healthy Akers. I see a more effective game execution from Stafford. That will result in more effective game calling from McVay. As much as McVay will want to call pass plays I believe he has learned that he has to rely on the run game and not get away from it as he has done in the past. This should be an explosive offensive but, a more controlled offense that doesn't have to rely on the chunk plays all the time. McVay is going to have more confidence in Stafford to make better decisions faster than Goff. While I expect more big plays with the addition of Jackson at WR I also expect McVay to do more ground and pound with Akers and Henderson. Havenstein is great for the run game. He should also be better against the pass rush with a better-diversified offense. Consider the Rams will have a great defense again this year they should be playing from ahead not allowing defenses to T-Off on Havenstein and the rest of the offensive line.

 

[Loyal]

I suspect Brock not being willing to restructure was a curveball. So I doubt they planned on replacing him.

So much of this comes down to Robinson tbh. I don't trust him. But maybe the Rams do and will be rewarded. To me though they suffered an unforeseen hole at 5T and losing Fox on top of that means we need a 5T. And this draft sucks at 5T. There's options but a lot of question marks in that group IMO.

I could see them draft a NT I guess and then move SJD to 5T. He might be able to handle that. But he's also a FA after the season. And I don't think we're sitting on a bunch of gems on the depth chart though I hope I'm wrong on that.

Merlin: "All I have to say is...."

Oh, and also I am almost in Speedo shape! *flexes ~ Merlin thinks

 

[bubbaramfan]

I also don't see Corbett moving to center, or Hav being traded. It make more sense and less disruptive to the O lines continuity. I expect to see Shelton, Allen and Anchrum to get plenty of snaps at center in TC and pre-season games. Even if they draft a center, those three will still be ahead. From all the snippets of comments I've read from coaches and Snead concerning Anchrum, his football IQ, size and athleticism, I'm guessing he's the frontrunner.

 

[Wisconsinram]

A couple of thoughts:
I don't trade an average OT at 7.5+ mill in a year where we anticipate being competitive.
I understand the reasoning behind trading Hekker, but would not release him. His accuracy and leadership are just too important to let go for the minimal cap savings knowing full well the cap will explode next year.
Most importantly, I am really worried about a Brad Holmes-less draft. I think that guy derserves a lot of credit for our past drafts.

 

[Shuie3225]

Hekker got us to the SB with that saving hold on a bad snap on the winning FG to send the Saints to Aintsville. I hope we don't trade him as his leadership and holding skills are another part of why he is so valuable.

Weird how you bring this up, but not the biggest game changing play of the entire NFC Championship that swung all the momentum. The fake punt down 13-0 in the 2nd quarter from our own 29 yard line is what allowed us to win that game vs the Saints.

I love Hecker but after last season which was a bad year and given his age, he could very likely be in decline. Not against trading him and getting the cap savings if we can. Same with Havenstein. A lot of cap savings if we move him and I dont think Edwards/Anchrum/Evans would be too big of a drop off. And who knows maybe one of the young kids excel and give us an upgrade there. Only makes sense if we plan to use the money saved to sign one of the free agents still out there.

 

[dang]

No matter what draft day 2 will be fun to watch. I know Snead has an itch for trades. They don’t always go the Rams way but they are a big part of this administration. Not sure if they will trade any players but I would say Hekker, Young, Noteboom are possibilities. I’d add Allen and Webster but I don’t see a market. And we all know there will be some trading of draft picks. Trading down from R2.57 for 2 picks seems the most likely. All of this during Day 2 so hunker down and enjoy the show!!!