Consider trading Donald for Multiple 1std

[So Ram]

I know it wont happen because Im sure Kroenke would never let star players go like that with the new stadium opening but the Patriots would always trade big names when they were still worth something and that allowed them so much flexibility and no rebuilding seasons where they were without cap room and draft picks. They traded Seymour and Chandler Jones. But this is an offensive driven league and McVay needs more parts to make his offense work. Trade him to Miami so he can sack Brady 2 games a year lol

Did you see The trades The Rams just made ??
Peters ??
What about Sammy Watkins ??
Talib ???
How did they become Rams ?? How did they leave ???

—Cooks will be interesting,but NE did the one & one. Got away with a little PI to win it all,but Cooks needs to be better than that. — only but love 4 - B. Cooks !!! The NFL Can be tough on players.

Ogletree?? R. Quinn ??? Helped take The Rams to a Super by cap relief & player development.

 

[So Ram]

Brady became the institution because they were able to build a great offensive line around him. His skill position players were average to above average.

Really — is that why they signed Josh Gordon & Brown ???

Ever hear of HOF”r Randy Moss ??

What about Wes Welker ??

 

[So Ram]

I’ll disagree because the value was still trading back. — Excellent perspective
Though.

 

[Petrowsky]

3 Firsts?

Well, we need them next year. We can't wait 3 years to get them. Any teams out there with 3 firsts in the upcoming draft?

The Dolphins have 3-1st round picks, and 2-2nd round picks. They could give the Rams everything they could want in one draft. I am in no way advocating for a Donald trade, because screw that, but the Dolphins do have the picks to complete the trade in one year. If the Dolphins called and said we want Donald for our 3-1st round picks, and our 2nd round pick, I think Snead and McVay would at least have a conversation about it.

This is just a hypothetical conversation, but can you imagine the draft, or other trades, the Rams could make with those picks? The Rams could go so many ways with that arsenal. Trade Pittsburgh’s 1st round pick for an offensive lineman, and then pick a lineman(O or D) with the Dolphins 1st rounder. Trade back into the 2nd round with the Saints 1st rounder gathering a 2nd and maybe a 3rd rounder. Then the Rams have 3-2nd rounders and possibly 3-3rd rounders to draft secondary depth, LBer, DL, OL, or make another trade for a young NFL player.

This is just a hypothetical for fun. There are so many things that wouldn’t happen in this scenario, but it would be crazy if that offer was on the table.

 

[iamme33]

Having lived through the Dickerson trade, Ricky Williams draft Trade, Faulk trade, RG3 draft trade the resounding themes are, Team's traded talented players\spots for these draft picks for very little in return when the tally of those picks was determined. I'll keep the HOF interior lineman and feel lucky with the picks we already have.

yeah some trades just don't work out. on the other hand some create dynasties the hersal walker trade made the cowboy. the Dickerson trade didn't workout for sure. the ricky Williams trade was a publicity stunt by Ditka (remember the wig ). the faulk trade didn't hurt the colts to bad cause they drafted a very good running back. having a brian lock can't remember his name. the rg3 trade was for an unproven player but still it got us Donald. if we had not had Washington pick at 2 at 13 we probably take a tackle instead of Donald.

 

[99Balloons]

Aaron Donald is a present day Hall of Fame Legend. You don’t trade a legend. You keep him.

 

[rdlkgliders]

The Dolphins have 3-1st round picks, and 2-2nd round picks. They could give the Rams everything they could want in one draft. I am in no way advocating for a Donald trade, because screw that, but the Dolphins do have the picks to complete the trade in one year. If the Dolphins called and said we want Donald for our 3-1st round picks, and our 2nd round pick, I think Snead and McVay would at least have a conversation about it.

This is just a hypothetical conversation, but can you imagine the draft, or other trades, the Rams could make with those picks? The Rams could go so many ways with that arsenal. Trade Pittsburgh’s 1st round pick for an offensive lineman, and then pick a lineman(O or D) with the Dolphins 1st rounder. Trade back into the 2nd round with the Saints 1st rounder gathering a 2nd and maybe a 3rd rounder. Then the Rams have 3-2nd rounders and possibly 3-3rd rounders to draft secondary depth, LBer, DL, OL, or make another trade for a young NFL player.

This is just a hypothetical for fun. There are so many things that wouldn’t happen in this scenario, but it would be crazy if that offer was on the table.

Miami isn't starting their rebuild with a DT anyway

 

[So Ram]

Well

yeah some trades just don't work out. on the other hand some create dynasties the hersal walker trade made the cowboy. the Dickerson trade didn't workout for sure. the ricky Williams trade was a publicity stunt by Ditka (remember the wig ). the faulk trade didn't hurt the colts to bad cause they drafted a very good running back. having a brian lock can't remember his name. the rg3 trade was for an unproven player but still it got us Donald. if we had not had Washington pick at 2 at 13 we probably take a tackle instead of Donald.

Well it was going to be Edgaran James if not Faulk ?? What a draft year !!! The took Tory Holt to go with Isaac Bruuuce !!!

just think back 20 years to date !!! Holy crap !! Win a big Super Bowl futures only to turn to your world upside down.
I was all in with Trent Green. Kurt Warner ?? Who ?? He played against the 9ers to finish out the season before. Crazy how time fly’s !!!

 

[So Ram]

Aaron Donald is a present day Hall of Fame Legend. You don’t trade a legend. You keep him.

I don’t agree if you get so much in return !!!
Right now it is what it is !!!
The Rams need guys upfront that will help enhance Aaron Donald’s ablility. He is not getting any younger & his better guys are being numbered real quick !!

 

[LesBaker]

OUCH! I have just about had it with the Steelers picking up former Ram all-pros and having them eventually going into the hall of fame! It really saddened me to see Jerome Bettis and Kevin Greene have mega-successful careers with the Steelers, and I certainly do not want to see them pick up Aaron Donald.

I think the world of Bettis, I really do.

He doesn't belong in the HOF in my opinion though.

He had a good career and his durability and consistency were really his attributes. As a runner he was good not great.



@flv I agree, you MUST separate the trades from the selections. They have to be judged each in a vacuum of their own.

The Griffen trade was good from the selection standpoint. Not great, but good.

Brockers, Jenkins, Ogletree, Stacy all contributed and Bailey was having a nice start to his career before being shot.

What would have happened if the Rams drafted Griffen..........who knows. But let's face it he had a pretty lukewarm career, missed two entire years and only has 40 starts on his resume. He's been a backup for 3 of the 6 seasons he's played.

(IMO if the Redskins could go back in time they wouldn't have done that trade and if the Rams could go back in time they still would do that trade).

 

[Petrowsky]

Miami isn't starting their rebuild with a DT anyway

I know which is why I wrote it’s a hypothetical twice, and stating there’s so much about the scenario that isn’t possible.

 

[Ram65]

Crazy thread.

If the Rams wanted to trade AD it was before they resigned him. I remember thinking it was a good possibility even before the numbers kept climbing. Too late now because the Rams would have to count parts of the signing bonus against the cap. This is the highest bonus amount by far the Rams have given out. Starting next year 2020 till 2022 is the meat of the contract. By 2022 other defensive lineman will be counting the same or more money against the cap. It is what it is. It is hard to say AD is or isn't worth the money. I think he is but, when you add in cap hits for Cooks, Gurley, Goff and soon Ramsey it makes it hard to give AD help. He needs help in 2020.

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[99Balloons]

I don’t agree if you get so much in return !!!
Right now it is what it is !!!
The Rams need guys upfront that will help enhance Aaron Donald’s ablility. He is not getting any younger & his better guys are being numbered real quick !!

Aaron Donald is in his prime right now. Even if he’s in the league for 12-13 years and has declined, his plays are still greater than some of the younger players coming into the league.

 

[jetplt67]

Why has this thread not been burned yet?

 

[So Ram]

Aaron Donald is in his prime right now. Even if he’s in the league for 12-13 years and has declined, his plays are still greater than some of the younger players coming into the league.

Will see how his career ends up ?? I won’t say he has peaked yet, but after next season I can see his level of play subside???
How fast and if at all will see ??
Aaron Donald is carving his way into the HOF. He does need better support around him.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Draftniks.
More interested in the draft than they are actual football games.

 

[…..]

Why has this thread not been burned yet?

Because it’s a legitimate discussion.



signed~Hershel Walker and the subsequent Dallas Super Bowl teams.

 

[FrantikRam]

Donald isn't the problem, the lack of a second Defensive Lineman who can occupy double teams is. As it is, Donald sees double & triple teams on a regular basis, take some of that pressure away and his effectiveness is intensified. Draft a quality 5T DE/DT this off-season, someone who can get after the QB regularly, then watch how much better our superstar DT and the OLB'ers perform. Brockers is an interior 3T DT, he'll do better elsewhere. Lose Brockers, Fox & Smart, draft a DE, DT and bring Marquis Copeland up from the practice squad. jmo.

But that's the rub.

When you invest that much money into someone, the roster holes tend to be bigger further away from that position. So we can invest in a better DL this offseason, but the cost would likely be the OL, OLB and/or ILB positions.

 

[LesBaker]

Because it’s a legitimate discussion.



signed~Hershel Walker and the subsequent Dallas Super Bowl teams.

The Rams incompetent FO at the time blew the draft picks from the Dickerson trade. They had, counting their own #1 and #2 selections, a total of 4 first round picks and 4 second round picks over two drafts.

They actually had the same amount of "draft capital" as the Cowboys in the first two rounds but the Cowboys had to wait for three seasons to collect.

It's a shame because that Cowboys dynasty would have been chasing a Rams dynasty had the picks not been squandered.

 

[Loyal]

Have we dumped AD for picks yet? Thenext Greg Robinson's, Jason Smith's, Sam Bradford's are waiting for us to draft for them......Maybe we'll get lucky enough to replace maybe the all time best 3-Tech DT in the history of the NFL in his twenties...