Consider trading Donald for Multiple 1std

[Merlin]

One thing people don't consider when it comes to draft picks is the rarity of elite players. When you hear that historically roughly 50% of first round picks hit, they're not talking about elite players they're talking about guys who can stick on the roster and start. If you were to go back and look at truly elite players like Aaron Donald, the hit percentage is going to be much worse. You can get 5 or 6 shots in round 1 and still not get an elite player of his caliber.

Donald isn't perfect. His lateral movement can cause issues in the run game and did last night in fact to include that TD run by SF. But even with his drawbacks that dude changes schemes by himself.

This year's draft might be better at DL than last year's, which was the best we had seen like ever. Outside of round one there are going to be options to replace Brock and finish up a rebuild of that room that will give us young legs and rotation to go with our future HoF 3T. At that pick in round 2 we might be looking at a round 1 value on the DL.

 

[Ramlock]

The Patriots can do that because they have Brady as a centerpiece. He is a certainty, an institution even.

Goff is not. The Draft is not a certainty either.

We are looking more akin to the Broncos at this point, especially if Goff doesnt improve.

The 5-9 Broncos?

No, Goff isn’t a 1st ballot HOFer yet...

 

[thirteen28]

Chances of that happening:

 

[kmramsfan]

I didnt say to do it-but I wanted peoples opinions as well. Its not like the defense would be alot worse anyways. We were a middle of the road Defense with him this year and last. He is an amazing individual talent but Defensive tackles as great as Donald at most add 1-2 wins a season. The impact from that position is not as strong as some others. You cant deny that it would create alot of flexibility and capital to improve other deficient areas on this team.

Yes, but no certainty. Donald is certainty.

 

[RamFan503]

They traded Seymour and Chandler Jones.

Wait... You didn't really just compare AD to these two did you?

 

[Dieter the Brock]

I think a good idea would be to build the D around AD & Ramsey. I know i'm spit balling here.

Dude hahhahahahahahhajajajjajahahha

 

[iamme33]

trading Donald is a bad idea but what do you think of trading gurley , cooks and havenstien. after all gurley is only getting 10 to 15 carries per game. cooks has the concusion problem and havenstien has been replaced already. now I know that the very reason for trading them plus their cap problems is why these trades would be hard to make but there are 5 teams with 86 mil up to110 mil in cap space. even if we had to throw in our 2nd rd pick ( just a crap shoot ) maybe 1 of those 5 would think they could salvage these players and make the trade. not saying I think this is a good plan but it would get us out of cap hell again not what I think we should do just looking for comments. if we could work these trades we should not have to cut anyone for cap reasons.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

No first rounders for 2 more years. No cap room. Many needs. Status quo and maybe we are a Wild Card team at best. The offense needs a whole new Oline. We need to replace aging players on D. If we trade Donald we can fetch at least 2 firsts and maybe a 2nd. Plus free up tons of cap room. We also can unload Ramsey and get a first and 2nd maybe. These two are great names but as shown tonight they do not make the Rams a great defense. I love Donald and I like Ramsey but this team is not 2 great players. I dont want to go 9-7 next season

So essentially they’d be trading Donald for Ramsey. No thanks. Why create an even bigger weakness on the DLine? Two firsts could give you two busts. A bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush.

 

[Corbin]

Trade AD? No freaking way!

trade Ramsey? I’m all for that! Wasn’t a fan of this trade to begin with. He’s a low effort big head player. I’d rather live with Hill and Williams as our CB’s.


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Also Hav, Cooks, and Goff should all be on the trade block as well.

 

[Ramlock]

 

[Dieter the Brock]

You don't trade the best player on your team, period.

I concur

 

[jrry32]

Trade AD? No freaking way!

trade Ramsey? I’m all for that! Wasn’t a fan of this trade to begin with. He’s a low effort big head player. I’d rather live with Hill and Williams as our CB’s.


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Also Hav, Cooks, and Goff should all be on the trade block as well.

Corbin, I like you, man, but if you're trying to blame Ramsey for that play, you don't understand the coverage. Ramsey is doing his job. Rapp was out of position. Ramsey is supposed to stay underneath of Sanders and try to bait Garoppolo into a mistake. Rapp is supposed to be over the top. They're bracketing. Rapp blew the coverage.

Let's stop having a "blow it all up" meltdown because of a down year where we'll still likely end up with a winning record.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Someone please lock this thread and quickly dispose of it. Donald is the last guy this team should trade. Unbelievable.

 

[jrry32]

Since when does does this so called "lackof cap" every affected any team from making moves?

Year after year I see on internet boards fans posting links to sporttrac or whatever, and every year I see those same teams sign and resign players.

Yall worry too much.

People think of cap space in the context of a single season. As @flv has pointed out, cap space can't be viewed just in the context of one year. It's accounting. There are ways to move money around. Do we have a ceiling? Yes. We can only move so much money. But the ceiling isn't where most people think it is.

 

[FrantikRam]

I'm not going to say we should or should not trade him.

But the DL really hasn't performed well enough considering his talent. Just as a comparison - the Niners have a better D than we've ever had with AD and with IMO worse personnel overall. The reason I think is because they have three above average players on the DL and a young stud in Bosa.

Once you pay Donald, gear up for SJDs of the world lining up next to him. Almost a lock that Brockers is gone this offseason too, which means the DL is going to get worse.

It's becoming a paradox - "x player gets paid". "X player isn't generating the desired results". "It's not x players fault, the players around him aren't good enough". Those players aren't good enough because x player got paid and you can afford it.

Therefore I really don't care who is around AD going forward - if he's the best and highest paid player, our defense should be an elite unit, or it doesn't make sense. It's really that simple. Otherwise we would be better served to replace him with two above average players and see what happens.

 

[RamsFan4Life]

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Only a good deal if we get to play all 53 of them at once...........

 

[tempests]

But the DL really hasn't performed well enough considering his talent. Just as a comparison - the Niners have a better D than we've ever had with AD and with IMO worse personnel overall. The reason I think is because they have three above average players on the DL and a young stud in Bosa.

Yeah, Arik Armstead is a UFA after this season and DeForest Buckner is in line for a huge payday. Not to mention the outsized contract they gave Dee Ford, currently injured.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I'm not going to say we should or should not trade him.

But the DL really hasn't performed well enough considering his talent. Just as a comparison - the Niners have a better D than we've ever had with AD and with IMO worse personnel overall. The reason I think is because they have three above average players on the DL and a young stud in Bosa.

Once you pay Donald, gear up for SJDs of the world lining up next to him. Almost a lock that Brockers is gone this offseason too, which means the DL is going to get worse.

It's becoming a paradox - "x player gets paid". "X player isn't generating the desired results". "It's not x players fault, the players around him aren't good enough". Those players aren't good enough because x player got paid and you can afford it.

Therefore I really don't care who is around AD going forward - if he's the best and highest paid player, our defense should be an elite unit, or it doesn't make sense. It's really that simple. Otherwise we would be better served to replace him with two above average players and see what happens.

Donald isn't the problem, the lack of a second Defensive Lineman who can occupy double teams is. As it is, Donald sees double & triple teams on a regular basis, take some of that pressure away and his effectiveness is intensified. Draft a quality 5T DE/DT this off-season, someone who can get after the QB regularly, then watch how much better our superstar DT and the OLB'ers perform. Brockers is an interior 3T DT, he'll do better elsewhere. Lose Brockers, Fox & Smart, draft a DE, DT and bring Marquis Copeland up from the practice squad. jmo.

 

[rdlkgliders]

NO

 

[T-REX]