12intheBox
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Whatever happened to football trades?
Player for player type stuff.
You want Sam? Fine, we expect a like-valued roster player. Justin Gilbert sounds good.
Straight Up? Not to me. Who is going to be under center?
Whatever happened to football trades?
Player for player type stuff.
You want Sam? Fine, we expect a like-valued roster player. Justin Gilbert sounds good.
Id do it for the 12th overall pick and Justin Gilbert, They are not really happy with him and he under preformed. If he came to the Rams I think he would shine like Barron, he's talented for sure.
It also says the Browns are only offering a 2nd round pick at best as compensation. Still interested? I'd seriously consider it even at that price.
It's probably bogus, but you never know. If Sam has decided not to restructure which is possible given the lack of progress in talks, then the Rams will be more likely to move him. Cleveland is a mess, and cannot control Manziel. Fish would probably be able to handle Manziel's personality, the Rams had scouts that liked him coming out, they have a QB coach who is good at working with mobile QBs now, he comes under contract for longer than Sam, and his value is incredibly low which means the Rams would get a pick too.
Everyone hates Manziel here it seems, but he still has a chance to show he can play in this league. If the Rams think they'd have to franchise tag Sam to keep him next year, they might decide to cut bait provided they get an offer they like.
With that 2nd round pick the Rams could take Carden, Petty, or Hundley. Add a guy like Sanchez in FA and we have:
Sanchez > Manziel> Davis > [Carden/Petty/Hundley]
Not a bad depth chart for next year's camp. What Sanchez gives up in his production he compensates for in not being an extreme injury risk. He knows the Rams' offense and would have far more weapons than he's ever had in the NFL. The cap savings would mean a very high chance of signing a guy like Wisniewski. The draft pick would mean another OL that the Rams would be able to get instead of using it on a QB. Finally, the Rams would not be hell bent on keeping Manziel, if he can't beat out Davis he's cut.
Straight Up? Not to me. Who is going to be under center?
Folks around here are acting like Bradford is some kind of given if he stays healthy but he's not. He has bad games, and is inconsistent. The dropoff from moving him isn't earth shaking, particularly when you consider he's probably gonna have more ACL issues playing QB.
If the guy is playing hardball with his contract after being paid very well over the course of his career thus far, and balking at doing an extension that helps the team... I am more than happy to watch Fish show him the door. He is just not worth all that. He's not.
It also says the Browns are only offering a 2nd round pick at best as compensation. Still interested? I'd seriously consider it even at that price.
Snap your hand off for a second, throw it in with our 1st and go get Mariota, then build the OL in the second and third.
That's exactly what I thought when I read this!It'll cost 'em a first rounder this year, and next year.
I just watched draft day. Let's make a deal!
Folks around here are acting like Bradford is some kind of given if he stays healthy but he's not. He has bad games, and is inconsistent. The dropoff from moving him isn't earth shaking, particularly when you consider he's probably gonna have more ACL issues playing QB.
If the guy is playing hardball with his contract after being paid very well over the course of his career thus far, and balking at doing an extension that helps the team... I am more than happy to watch Fish show him the door. He is just not worth all that. He's not.
That's what I don't get either. It's not like we are getting Drew Brees is his darned knee would stay together, at best you are getting a poor man's Eli Manning or Alex Smith and at worst he's Matt Leinart (great talent, just couldn't put it together)
I would be PISSED if we traded bradford for only a 2nd rounder! either a 1st or a 2nd and 3rd or maybe a 2nd and a player
I smell Condon...
(that's with an N you sickos...)
This is how an agent creates leverage when people think your client has none after a team announces it wants to cut your client's pay. Leak trade rumors and teams supposedly interested. Yes, leaky Condon...
I don't know why anyone would want Gilbert. He looked terrible all year - got called out by the pros there for not having the right attitude or guts. Just looks like a bust. And regarding Bradford being a poor mans Alex Smith or Eli? Come on.
I'd take their first and second for him but its not going to happen. A second this year and another next year? Yeah I'd probably do that - but the fact is if you trade him [SB] we don't have a QB. Use that second round pick to trade up for Mariota? Possibility - but youre taking a risk on the franchise on a rookie again! What if Mariota busts?? Sheesh...its a tough question alright.
I think Condon's being smart - its what he does, leaking rumours like this. He knows the Rams are over a barrel here so he's creating leverage for his client where most guys would say "Sam Bradford the QB has no leverage with the rams because of his injury history and mediocre stats".... that's why he makes big bucks. He's a good agent.
Bradford in terms of QB value is near at the bottom. He is only valuable to Rams. He won't fetch a 2nd rounder. Think, what is Nick Foles worth? Is Bradford after two ACLs worth more than Foles with a $12.5 million cap hit? No way!