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Changes coming with or without Jeff Fisher
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Great Article and I believe this is true, however, if Fisher stayed I would rather him bring in a Mike Shanahan rather than Roman, Olson or Norv Turner. If you give me a choice of Jeff Fisher & Norv Turner or a New Head Coach I will take my chances on a New Head Coach because IMO the Rams will be very desirable job with a young quarterback and location regardless of not having a first round pick.
IMO Fisher sealed his fate back in 2012 when he could have hired Hue Jackson over Brian Schottenheimer, everybody and his brother knew that Jackson was the better choice, but Fisher went with the guy he felt he could control more and thus sealed his fate. As a leader, you should understand your areas of opportunity and surround yourself with the best in that area, Fisher with Gregg Williams got one of the better defensive coordinators in the NFL, however, when it came to offense, he went for mediocrity.
When Schottenheimer left, he could have again stepped up and hired someone with a vision, however, he stayed in house and went with Frank Cignetti only to fire Cignetti and stay in house again with Rob Boras...Sorry it's time to bid Jeff Fisher adieu and lets go out and hire a Head Coach that can lead us to the promise land.
IMO Fisher sealed his fate back in 2012 when he could have hired Hue Jackson over Brian Schottenheimer, everybody and his brother knew that Jackson was the better choice, but Fisher went with the guy he felt he could control more and thus sealed his fate. As a leader, you should understand your areas of opportunity and surround yourself with the best in that area, Fisher with Gregg Williams got one of the better defensive coordinators in the NFL, however, when it came to offense, he went for mediocrity.
When Schottenheimer left, he could have again stepped up and hired someone with a vision, however, he stayed in house and went with Frank Cignetti only to fire Cignetti and stay in house again with Rob Boras...Sorry it's time to bid Jeff Fisher adieu and lets go out and hire a Head Coach that can lead us to the promise land.
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The Way We Hear It: Changes coming to the Rams with or without Jeff Fisher
By PRO FOOTBALL WEEKLY STAFF – contact@profootballweekly.com
There are few more buttoned-down owners in the NFL than Stan Kroenke, and most of our sources are having a very hard time getting any real sense of what the futures of head coach Jeff Fisher and general manager Les Snead will be.
But what little we are hearing is that Fisher will most likely be out at the end of the season.
How bad has it gotten under Fisher?
This marks the fourth straight season under Fisher in which the Rams are 4-6. Fisher’s Hard Knocks proclamation that any more "7-9 Bullsh*t" won’t cut it seems safe. With games remaining at New Orleans, New England and Seattle, and home games with Atlanta, San Francisco and Arizona, The Rams, we think, will be hard-pressed to find more than two more wins on the schedule.
And it gets much worse than that.
Fisher’s all-time 173-162-1 record ties him with Tom Landry for the second-most losses in NFL head-coaches’ history, but Landry has 250 wins and six ties.
Fisher needs just four more losses to break Dan Reeves' all-time record of 165 losses, and Reeves has 190 wins.
Of the 20 least winning coaches in NFL history, only Weeb Ewbank and Norv Turner have lower winning percentages, and Ewbank has 33 fewer losses and Turner has 40 less.
Fisher’s limitations are obvious: he’s a Buddy Ryan disciple who is a very good defensive coach but who doesn’t appear to have a clue on offense.
Strangely, Snead seems to suffer the same flaws as his head coach.
Snead’s picks on defense of Aaron Donald, Michael Brockers, Janoris Jenkins, Alec Ogletree, Trumaine Johnson, Aaron Donald and Lamarcus Joyner have been impressive.
Offensive choices including Greg Robinson, Isaiah Pead, Brian Quick, Tavon Austin and Rob Havenstein are not so great.
Todd Gurley looked like a home run last year, but he has disappeared as a sophomore. With Jared Goff it’s too soon to tell. Snead took him because he was allegedly the most ready-to-go of the top QBs, but it took him 11 weeks to get on the field and be every bit as mediocre in his first start as Case Keenum.
Is it a blind spot for Snead, or that Fisher doesn’t know what to do with the offensive picks he’s been given?
Since Fisher was involved in the hiring of Snead, the Rams have a general manager who’s never hired a head coach. Based on the brilliance of the RGIII trade and his defensive picks, it’s possible Fisher goes and Snead gets a chance to stay and pick his own coach.
The conventional wisdom is both will be let go at the end of the year, but here is something we are hearing from very good sources close to Fisher:
Whether it’s part of a campaign to get a contract extension or an actual epiphany, Fisher has decided if he is retained he will bring in a new, veteran offensive coordinator with a free hand to develop Goff and run the offense.
We’re also hearing that this year’s castoffs – Greg Roman, Turner and Greg Olson – could all be candidates, with Turner a heavy favorite right now to get the job.
The question is, do Fisher and/or Snead get the chance to make the move they clearly should have made some time ago?
About time
:huh:
By PRO FOOTBALL WEEKLY STAFF – contact@profootballweekly.com
There are few more buttoned-down owners in the NFL than Stan Kroenke, and most of our sources are having a very hard time getting any real sense of what the futures of head coach Jeff Fisher and general manager Les Snead will be.
But what little we are hearing is that Fisher will most likely be out at the end of the season.
How bad has it gotten under Fisher?
This marks the fourth straight season under Fisher in which the Rams are 4-6. Fisher’s Hard Knocks proclamation that any more "7-9 Bullsh*t" won’t cut it seems safe. With games remaining at New Orleans, New England and Seattle, and home games with Atlanta, San Francisco and Arizona, The Rams, we think, will be hard-pressed to find more than two more wins on the schedule.
And it gets much worse than that.
Fisher’s all-time 173-162-1 record ties him with Tom Landry for the second-most losses in NFL head-coaches’ history, but Landry has 250 wins and six ties.
Fisher needs just four more losses to break Dan Reeves' all-time record of 165 losses, and Reeves has 190 wins.
Of the 20 least winning coaches in NFL history, only Weeb Ewbank and Norv Turner have lower winning percentages, and Ewbank has 33 fewer losses and Turner has 40 less.
Fisher’s limitations are obvious: he’s a Buddy Ryan disciple who is a very good defensive coach but who doesn’t appear to have a clue on offense.
Strangely, Snead seems to suffer the same flaws as his head coach.
Snead’s picks on defense of Aaron Donald, Michael Brockers, Janoris Jenkins, Alec Ogletree, Trumaine Johnson, Aaron Donald and Lamarcus Joyner have been impressive.
Offensive choices including Greg Robinson, Isaiah Pead, Brian Quick, Tavon Austin and Rob Havenstein are not so great.
Todd Gurley looked like a home run last year, but he has disappeared as a sophomore. With Jared Goff it’s too soon to tell. Snead took him because he was allegedly the most ready-to-go of the top QBs, but it took him 11 weeks to get on the field and be every bit as mediocre in his first start as Case Keenum.
Is it a blind spot for Snead, or that Fisher doesn’t know what to do with the offensive picks he’s been given?
Since Fisher was involved in the hiring of Snead, the Rams have a general manager who’s never hired a head coach. Based on the brilliance of the RGIII trade and his defensive picks, it’s possible Fisher goes and Snead gets a chance to stay and pick his own coach.
The conventional wisdom is both will be let go at the end of the year, but here is something we are hearing from very good sources close to Fisher:
Whether it’s part of a campaign to get a contract extension or an actual epiphany, Fisher has decided if he is retained he will bring in a new, veteran offensive coordinator with a free hand to develop Goff and run the offense.
We’re also hearing that this year’s castoffs – Greg Roman, Turner and Greg Olson – could all be candidates, with Turner a heavy favorite right now to get the job.
The question is, do Fisher and/or Snead get the chance to make the move they clearly should have made some time ago?
About time
:huh:
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Reads like some posts right hear at ROD. The article covers all or most of the bases. Looking at the numbers for Jeff Fisher says it all. He just doesn't win enough and loses too much. I wouldn't mind keeping Snead if he can stay away from the SEC/Auburn love and be objective. A quick offensive turnaround with Goff and a new offensive HC could right the Rams ship. At this point time will tell. I don't know how much speculation I can take. New stories with different slants will come out after every game followed by more rants by devoted Rams fans. It will seem like forever until we get a final decision that will greatly effect the Rams near future.
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Norv is would be a great hire imo. The guy knows offense.
He also adjusts to the talent on the team. Though he's a Coryell /Zampese guy (like Martz), he will integrate the TE if the talent is there. Antonio Gates had great years under Turner. He can also run a balanced attack and get Gurley going.
Letting Turner come in and run the entire offense would be a much easier transition than an entire coaching change. Our defense and Special teams are stellar. Leave them alone. Fisher is a coach players like playing for. Our biggest knock on him is his lack of offensive production.
Fisher knows he isn't the hot coaching candidate he was 5 years ago. If he doesn't change now, he likely won't hey another coaching gig in the NFL.
I'm all in on Norv and keeping Fisher
He also adjusts to the talent on the team. Though he's a Coryell /Zampese guy (like Martz), he will integrate the TE if the talent is there. Antonio Gates had great years under Turner. He can also run a balanced attack and get Gurley going.
Letting Turner come in and run the entire offense would be a much easier transition than an entire coaching change. Our defense and Special teams are stellar. Leave them alone. Fisher is a coach players like playing for. Our biggest knock on him is his lack of offensive production.
Fisher knows he isn't the hot coaching candidate he was 5 years ago. If he doesn't change now, he likely won't hey another coaching gig in the NFL.
I'm all in on Norv and keeping Fisher
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Why was Turner let go in Minnesota?
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I haven't heard the entire story. Last I heard, Zimmer was surprised by Norvs' resignation.
Btw. Bradford looked better than he ever had with Norv. Even without AP.
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Nice. It's good to hear that whispers are saying Fisher is gone at end of year, or that he'll have to hire an OC and leave him alone. Nice.
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