CBD acceptable in NFL?

[RamFan503]

I truly hope that they legalize it in all 50 states. Here in Cali my neighbor is doing the Airbnb and all their visitors just come and smoke dope outside. Really sucks when my 6yr old daughter and I have to go inside the house because of the smoke. She gets bummed because we can't play soccer outside. Maybe if they legalize it in all the states people won't come to visit just to light up. Crazy that someone's vacation would center around getting high, what a bunch of losers.

Yeah. Odd really. Now that it's legal here in NV, the only place you can get away from it is either inside your house or by getting completely away from people. I have never had a problem with people smoking pot and still don't. But it's getting ridiculous around here. Maybe if it was totally legal and the govt just got the hell out of the way, it'd be different. But somehow I doubt it.

 

[hotanez]

Yeah. Odd really. Now that it's legal here in NV, the only place you can get away from it is either inside your house or by getting completely away from people. I have never had a problem with people smoking pot and still don't. But it's getting ridiculous around here. Maybe if it was totally legal and the govt just got the hell out of the way, it'd be different. But somehow I doubt it.

It doesn't bother me one bit, the smell, but I just get upset that these fools see me and my daughter running around on the lawn and they are right next to the wall smoking dope. It's like what are you thinking. Watching them get upset when I start yelling at them is amazing. They just don't think.

 

[RamFan503]

It doesn't bother me one bit, the smell, but I just get upset that these fools see me and my daughter running around on the lawn and they are right next to the wall smoking dope. It's like what are you thinking. Watching them get upset when I start yelling at them is amazing. They just don't think.

I like the smell at times but some shit just smells like burning leaves. It's not that big of a deal for me - especially now as I have a house with some property but I lived in an apartment for a while right after it got legalized and I couldn't even open our windows in the summer without the place being filled with it.

Though I smoked it for years, still do on occassion, and voted for legalizing it, I honestly don't like the results. Too many people thinking it's their right to smoke it all day, every day and anywhere they want.

Now get the fuck off my lawn!:coffee:

 

[LesBaker]

Nobody is saying that it cures anything. What it does do is provide RELIEF from certain illnesses and diseases.

Just because the FDA, a government entity, doesn’t approve of it you call it bullcrap? The same government that thinks cannabis is more dangerous than cocaine and meth. Yea ok.

And the science just does not agree. I grew up with scientists, I need evidence. I can change my mind based on evidence too of course. But I need proof and so far the facts don't support CBD. So that's why I call bullshit. Not because the FDA tells me to..........in fact the makers themselves tell me that with the disclaimer.

By the way early on some of the makers of CBD were claiming that it killed cancer cells, or combated them. The FDA had to step in and stop them from making these claims which are/were entirely false. I don't think the govt thinks that weed is more dangerous than meth or coke.

Somewhere, usually hidden in fine print, on every single one of the websites selling CBD will be disclaimers. And the standard FDA warning, which I list in another post and you will see below, is REQUIRED BY LAW because they do not have any science backing up claims. So on their website and sometimes on the packaging they add a disclaimer that tells you there is no proof what they are selling you is intended to do what you may be buying it for.

A couple of examples from different websites.

These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. All information presented here is not meant as a substitute for or alternative to information from health care practitioners. Please consult your healthcare professional about potential interactions or other possible complications before using any product.

The statements made regarding these products have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. The efficacy of these products has not been confirmed by FDA-approved research. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. All information presented here is not meant as a substitute for or alternative to information from healthcare practitioners. Please consult your healthcare professional about potential interactions or other possible complications before using any product. The Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act requires this notice.

The statements made regarding these products have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. The efficacy of these products has not been confirmed by FDA-approved research. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. All information presented here is not meant as a substitute for or alternative to information from health care practitioners. Please consult your health care professional about potential interactions or other possible complications before using any product. The Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act requires this notice.

Again, if this product did what all the manufacturers claim they wouldn't have to add the FDA disclaimer. It's illegal to claim something is medicinal when there is no proof that it is, and rightfully so. This compound doesn't seem dangerous though, so that's a good thing. And there haven't been any cases where it interfered with other drugs people are taking so that's good too. But until there is real proof that it does something, which there isn't, I'm not going to believe anything.

And don't you think the drug companies would be all over this and making it by the tanker truck if it actually had merit?

 

[fearsomefour]

We set THC levels with the testing company we were using several years back. Our goal was to only be notified if it was someone who was likely currently high or was a continual user. My point of course is that I'm sure the NFL could do the same - especially now.

And they may.
Don't know if it is allowed or not.
It is foolish if it is not allowed.

 

[badnews]

as if the FDA aren't bought and sold by big pharma...

Marijuana and CBD are harmless compared to the shit being advertised daily, perfectly legal to go ask your doctor about ______.

The fact that some people say "Oh, your Dr. prescribed you a bunch of xanax and percocet... thats A-okay because the law and your Dr. said so".
There are so many people fighting daily for a bit of relief and when a non intoxicating extract of a naturally grown plant is what helps them, even if its only in their head, (my wife is pretty damn sure it isn't) why in the hell do others need to push their agenda on to them?
Do they believe big pharma wouldn't lie? Do they think the FDA is infallible, let alone incorruptible? Do they not realize that every other day another OTC drug that has been peddled for years as safe proves to be terrible for you, despite all your doctors and the FDAs approval?

In a nation hopped up on corn syrup and caffeine, marijuana and CBD seem pretty damn acceptable.

 

[fearsomefour]

I like the smell at times but some crap just smells like burning leaves. It's not that big of a deal for me - especially now as I have a house with some property but I lived in an apartment for a while right after it got legalized and I couldn't even open our windows in the summer without the place being filled with it.

Though I smoked it for years, still do on occassion, and voted for legalizing it, I honestly don't like the results. Too many people thinking it's their right to smoke it all day, every day and anywhere they want.

Now get the freak off my lawn!:coffee:

I voted against legalization.
The hippies never listen.

 

[Young Ram]

And the science just does not agree. I grew up with scientists, I need evidence. I can change my mind based on evidence too of course. But I need proof and so far the facts don't support CBD. So that's why I call bullcrap. Not because the FDA tells me to..........in fact the makers themselves tell me that with the disclaimer.

The supplement world is full of disclaimers. You’re gonna tell me that all of them are bullshit too? And unless you think the people from Harvard are nuts here’s an article from their website.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/cannabidiol-cbd-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont-2018082414476

CBD has been touted for a wide variety of health issues, but the strongest scientific evidence is for its effectiveness in treating some of the cruelest childhood epilepsy syndromes, such as Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS), which typically don’t respond to antiseizure medications. In numerous studies, CBD was able to reduce the number of seizures, and in some cases it was able to stop them altogether. Videos of the effects of CBD on these children and their seizures are readily available on the Internet for viewing, and they are quite striking. Recently the FDA approved the first ever cannabis-derived medicine for these conditions, Epidiolex, which contains CBD.

I don't think the govt thinks that weed is more dangerous than meth or coke.

If that is so then why is cannabis a schedule 1 drug and coke and meth schedule 2?

Somewhere, usually hidden in fine print, on every single one of the websites selling CBD will be disclaimers. And the standard FDA warning, which I list in another post and you will see below, is REQUIRED BY LAW because they do not have any science backing up claims. So on their website and sometimes on the packaging they add a disclaimer that tells you there is no proof what they are selling you is intended to do what you may be buying it for.

You keep talking about the FDA.... do you really think the FDA will approve an illegal federal substance? No. They won’t. And the only way to change that is to legalize cannabis on a federal level.

Again, if this product did what all the manufacturers claim they wouldn't have to add the FDA disclaimer. It's illegal to claim something is medicinal when there is no proof that it is, and rightfully so. This compound doesn't seem dangerous though, so that's a good thing. And there haven't been any cases where it interfered with other drugs people are taking so that's good too. But until there is real proof that it does something, which there isn't, I'm not going to believe anything.

There’s proof all over the net. Unless you think the thousands of people benefiting from it are lying.

And don't you think the drug companies would be all over this and making it by the tanker truck if it actually had merit?

No because big pharma will do whatever it can to maintain status quo. Why do you think they are so opposed to legalization? $$$

 

[fearsomefour]

The supplement world is full of disclaimers. You’re gonna tell me that all of them are bullcrap too? And unless you think the people from Harvard are nuts here’s an article from their website.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/cannabidiol-cbd-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont-2018082414476

CBD has been touted for a wide variety of health issues, but the strongest scientific evidence is for its effectiveness in treating some of the cruelest childhood epilepsy syndromes, such as Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS), which typically don’t respond to antiseizure medications. In numerous studies, CBD was able to reduce the number of seizures, and in some cases it was able to stop them altogether. Videos of the effects of CBD on these children and their seizures are readily available on the Internet for viewing, and they are quite striking. Recently the FDA approved the first ever cannabis-derived medicine for these conditions, Epidiolex, which contains CBD.




If that is so then why is cannabis a schedule 1 drug and coke and meth schedule 2?



You keep talking about the FDA.... do you really think the FDA will approve an illegal federal substance? No. They won’t. And the only way to change that is to legalize cannabis on a federal level.



There’s proof all over the net. Unless you think the thousands of people benefiting from it are lying.



No because big pharma will do whatever it can to maintain status quo. Why do you think they are so apposed to legalization? $$$

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The issue with the government is obvious.
Seen the positive affect with seizures and other things first hand.

 

[bluecoconuts]

I voted against legalization.
The hippies never listen.

Aren't you about personal freedom, why would you vote against it?

 

[LesBaker]

CBD has been touted for a wide variety of health issues, but the strongest scientific evidence is for its effectiveness in treating some of the cruelest childhood epilepsy syndromes, such as Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS), which typically don’t respond to antiseizure medications. In numerous studies, CBD was able to reduce the number of seizures, and in some cases it was able to stop them altogether. Videos of the effects of CBD on these children and their seizures are readily available on the

I mentioned that in an earlier post. It's one of the things in that drug. There are other things to. It's NOT like just CBD is causing that effect. Epidiolex has other stuff in it too. It is not CBD by itself.

Being "touted" for issues isn't the same as actual evidence that it does those things.

If that is so then why is cannabis a schedule 1 drug and coke and meth schedule 2?

Because of old, old laws. If that was still the thinking then my guess is we wouldn't see it legalized in some states and available as medical in many others. And at some point that will change. But I doubt if you asked anyone in DC if they think weed is more dangerous than coke or meth they would say yes to that. C'mon.

And you should know that Schedule 1 is reserved for drugs that have no known or proven medical use. Maybe some time in the future weed will be removed.

There’s proof all over the net. Unless you think the thousands of people benefiting from it are lying.

There are no actual scientific studies that support what people are saying. So we have anecdotal evidence.

There is no "proof", this is what I am trying to get through to you. People saying stuff all over the net isn't actual real proof or evidence.

If that were true Facebook would be the most reliable source of information in the world.

No because big pharma will do whatever it can to maintain status quo. Why do you think they are so opposed to legalization? $$$

I don't think they give a shit about the US legalizing weed or not, I think that is supposition on your part. I've never heard anything about drug companies being publicly opposed to legalizing weed. And if they are they are failing miserably at it. They are busy with restless leg syndrome and other bullshit. They are working on way larger margins than the cannabis industry.

If this was a valid "cure-all", as it is insubstantially claimed to be, with the pockets they have they could also be cashing in, but they aren't because there is NOTHING that backs the claims. And drug companies have to have some science and fact backing them.

What the hell is so hard to understand that there is NO evidence that back the claims of makers of this stuff? Why do they have to state that their product doesn't do what they and users claim? Why is it hard to grasp that there aren't any scientific facts or studies or lab tests that validate the bullshit claims these guys are foisting on the public? Placebos "work" in some cases too you know.

By the way. Vodka also relieves anxiety, and can reduce pain too.

Finally..........

The supplement world is full of disclaimers.

Yup. But saying "your results may vary" is a WHOLE lot different than the disclaimer I am talking about.

So. How many of those disclaimers you are talking about are MANDATED by the FDA and FEDERAL LAW so that the public isn't fooled, lied to, swindled and cheated by products making claims that are not proven?

Answer..........

Just the one that I have mentioned. And it is on lots of products from cosmetics, to herbal teas, to organic medicine and a very wide rage of products and merchandise, even copper bands and knee braces with copper threads!!! And every single maker of CBD has it on their website. Every. Single. One.

Until there is proof this is snake oil.

 

[LesBaker]

Well I dunno how I fucked up that formatting LOL.......but boy did I!!!!

 

[LesBaker]

Worse than the smell of weed?

Cigars and cigarettes.

And I smoked for many years.

That stuff smells like SHIT!

 

[Young Ram]

I mentioned that in an earlier post. It's one of the things in that drug. There are other things to. It's NOT like just CBD is causing that effect. Epidiolex has other stuff in it too. It is not CBD by itself.

Being "touted" for issues isn't the same as actual evidence that it does those things.

I bolded the part where it says ‘scientific evidence’ since your so caught up with it. Is Harvard lying too?

Because of old, old laws. If that was still the thinking then my guess is we wouldn't see it legalized in some states and available as medical in many others. And at some point that will change. But I doubt if you asked anyone in DC if they think weed is more dangerous than coke or meth they would say yes to that. C'mon.

And you should know that Schedule 1 is reserved for drugs that have no known or proven medical use. Maybe some time in the future weed will be removed.

So why is it taking them so long to federally legalize cannabis? I mean sure they can’t be that stupid to think that cannabis is more dangerous than other hard drugs which brings me to my next point.

I don't think they give a crap about the US legalizing weed or not, I think that is supposition on your part. I've never heard anything about drug companies being publicly opposed to legalizing weed. And if they are they are failing miserably at it. They are busy with restless leg syndrome and other bullcrap. They are working on way larger margins than the cannabis industry.

Who do you think is paying law makers to keep cannabis illegal? To have a plant that is easily accessible that has shown to benefit patients from certain medical issues. Patients would forgo the opioid route and take a natural route instead. Who loses money? Big pharma thats who. And yes they are losing and that’s the good thing. Old timers are dying and the new generation is voting more. With all the accessible information on the internet people are more easily able to do their own research and in turn see that the war on drugs is all bullshit.

If this was a valid "cure-all", as it is insubstantially claimed to be, with the pockets they have they could also be cashing in, but they aren't because there is NOTHING that backs the claims. And drug companies have to have some science and fact backing them.

Let’s be clear here. Cannabis does not cure anything. I never said it did. People who do are ignorant to the actual benefits of the plant. And once again the article I posted said it has scientific evidence unless, again, a highly touted school is lying.

By the way. Vodka also relieves anxiety, and can reduce pain too.

Yea and it also gets you drunk and can cause heart, kidney, and liver disease. Yippie!

 

[1maGoh]

That label is on products that are making claims that are not backed up by evidence or science in order to avoid legal problems. The reason you see it on supplements is the wild claims about boosting metabolism and testosterone and other wild claims about packing on muscle and so forth. You see it on cosmetics that make claims about anti-aging and other crap too.

The reason the manufacturers of various products use the label is because they know the claims they are making are dubious at best and usually outright falsehoods. If the product did what they claimed it does they wouldn't need to say that it doesn't right on the freaking package LOL.

Just in this thread, less than two pages look at the claims.

Anti inflammatory
Arthritis
Scoliosis
Anxiety
MS

Now if you look online you'll find claims for nearly everything, literally the list would be dozens and dozens of "cures".

This is snake oil, it's a hustle and people are spending like mad on it LOL.

I'm not disagreeing on CBD. Just disagreeing that the label in question means the product doesn't work. The label specifically states exactly what it means. The product hasn't been evaluated by the FDA for what they said. That's what it means. Plenty of things work that they don't even submit to the FDA because that costs money and it's unnecessary.

 

[bluecoconuts]

And you should know that Schedule 1 is reserved for drugs that have no known or proven medical use. Maybe some time in the future weed will be removed.

The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

-John D. Ehrlichman
(Nixons long time assistant, White House council, member of his inner circle, and basically one of his closest political allies.)

There's your reason.

 

[LesBaker]

I'm not disagreeing on CBD. Just disagreeing that the label in question means the product doesn't work.

The disclaimer means that the product doesn't meet standards and doesn't necessarily do what is claimed.

It's really that simple. It doesn't just mean that it hasn't been evaluated by the FDA. It means more than that.

 

[1maGoh]

The disclaimer means that the product doesn't meet standards and doesn't necessarily do what is claimed.

It's really that simple. It doesn't just mean that it hasn't been evaluated by the FDA. It means more than that.

Words have meanings. The words with the meanings you just wrote aren't in that label.

 

[coconut]

When the current drugs on the market don't do crap for a person with MS like my Mom and you have no other options you try anything in hopes they get better. My Mom continues to have MS, it's definitely not a cure, but it's improved her quality of life tremendously.

What brand CBD does your mom take?

 

[hotanez]

What brand CBD does your mom take?

I can pm you the brand name if you like. it has zero THC in it.