CBD acceptable in NFL?

[Selassie I]

The key is going to be the federal side approving its usage. Probably a ways out due to so many states still considering cannabis and associated products to be illegal, but it's coming and will clear a lot of stuff like this up like the military being able to not need to test for what is a very minor drug.

I'm sure the NFL could easily make the call the overlook its usage, but there might be federal fallout from that since the politicians love to whip stupid $#!T up and make a three ring circus out of it. But it is stupid IMO. Because the key factor for a sports league is performance impact and it's not like weed usage gives anyone a boost. They need to keep their focus on steroids and Adderall type products, or any other type drug that actually impact game results.

It's already legal on the Federal level. Check out my 1st post in this thread.

 

[Selassie I]

@Selassie I it's openly sold down here, even in places you wouldn't think. Naples Olive Oil Company for instance.........they have foods and vinegar varieties some kitchen accessories......AND they sell CBD.

As far as this



There isn't really any science pointing to anything other than what I mentioned so far. Go look at CBD manufactures own websites. Somewhere on the site you will find the disclaimer because they know they have to have it, the wording on the claims has to be styled a certain way. It covers their ass. Look at the picture of the bottle @Dieter the Brock just posted. Right on the bottle is says "supplement" and they put it there for a VERY specific and legal reason.

At some point I think the league will stop testing for weed simply because of the legalities. At some point the union will have to make the deal for HGH testing in trade for dropping tests for THC. If an athlete lives in a state where it's legal or gets a prescription from a Dr. the league doesn't have much to stand on from a public perception standpoint. The large majority don't care.

It doesn't mean we won't call a player a moron for getting caught of course.

I don't think you read my whole post. I explain that it's available RIGHT NOW in Florida.


It has tremendous medicinal benefits for people and animals alike. It also is a big help for anxiety problems. There is absolutely no doubt about it. There are silly ridiculous disclaimers on almost everything nowadays.

 

[LesBaker]

I understood I was just pointing out that it's everywhere now even though technically not yet legal. When an olive oil store sells it and hangs a neon sign in the window you know that shit is everywhere.

A lot of money is being made from this stuff. To help understanding I have read a little bit as I post and by 2022 some industry people say that sales will top 20 billion.

 

[bluecoconuts]

The federal government, as well as many states.

Perhaps they shouldn't, but it is still a crime technically in some places.

And yes, when I was a kid I violated those laws. Repeatedly. And when my wife was dying of cancer, I violated them again for her sake. And I'd be happy if it became legal. But the NFL doesn't need to respect my opinions on breaking the law.

But yes, stopping drug tests for marijuana is probably wise for them. That's different than suspending for actual arrests, of course.

The Federal government is wrong, and so are those states.

At this point there is enough research out there to know that the official reason that the government doesn't like it is bullshit, and there are enough quotes from former politicians talking about how it was done for racial reasons to basically blow their argument for banning it out of the water.

So the government should then act based on the wishes of the people, and over 60% of all adults say it should be legal, and it jumps to almost 75% when you start looking at the youth and future of the country, with the lowest level of support being the oldest generations (only the silent generation has less than 50% approval), so basically at this point the government is dragging their feet for no reason. They were called out for lying about banning it, and there are huge pushes for legalization from the state level.

It's inevitable, and the only thing we're doing by waiting is costing ourselves more money, tying up our courts and police departments and overcrowding our jails even more. It's cheaper, safer, and frankly at this point better, to simply reschedule it and decriminalize it, so they're at least out of the way.

Anytime you see this

“These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or ailment.”

On a product or website you know you are buying snake oil.

This stuff isn't regulated and the people making it are making claims that are outright bullcrap.

FDA isn't allowed to really study cannabis because the federal government classified it as a schedule 1 drug.

According to the federal government Weed is more dangerous than cocaine and meth, among many others. Schedule 1 is supposed to mean highly addictive with zero potential health benefits. I think common sense tells us that isn't right.

Government needs to get with the times.

 

[LesBaker]

FDA isn't allowed to really study cannabis because the federal government classified it as a schedule 1 drug.

Lots of other entities have done research on CBD. Is it classified the same as weed though..........I don't know.

So the government should then act based on the wishes of the people, and over 60% of all adults say it should be legal, and it jumps to almost 75% when you start looking at the youth and future of the country, with the lowest level of support being the oldest generations

Think about this. Florida probably has as many people over 65 as any state, probably more than any state actually. The vote here for medical marijuana came in at 70% yes. There is a clear mandate from the citizens and if the government doesn't act on that I have a problem with it.

Officials aren't elected to do what they think is right, they are elected to serve.

 

[bluecoconuts]

Lots of other entities have done research on CBD. Is it classified the same as weed though..........I don't know.

I think they have said CBD is okay, but to be honest I don't know that much, it's not like I'm all that interested in the details, I'm just someone who thinks the Government should focus on real issues, so that's where most of my stance comes from.

Shit, if they were to just legalize it and take away the stigma, I'm pretty sure you'd see a reduction in use. Stock the grocery store with THC drinks like they do booze, and all the moms will go for that instead.

 

[hotanez]

I think they have said CBD is okay, but to be honest I don't know that much, it's not like I'm all that interested in the details, I'm just someone who thinks the Government should focus on real issues, so that's where most of my stance comes from.

crap, if they were to just legalize it and take away the stigma, I'm pretty sure you'd see a reduction in use. Stock the grocery store with THC drinks like they do booze, and all the moms will go for that instead.

I truly hope that they legalize it in all 50 states. Here in Cali my neighbor is doing the Airbnb and all their visitors just come and smoke dope outside. Really sucks when my 6yr old daughter and I have to go inside the house because of the smoke. She gets bummed because we can't play soccer outside. Maybe if they legalize it in all the states people won't come to visit just to light up. Crazy that someone's vacation would center around getting high, what a bunch of losers.

 

[Liberator]

And get this... while you can buy it everywhere here... a few weeks ago a 69 year old Grandmother was arrested for having CBD oil in her purse while she was at the Disney World Magic Kingdom with her family.

Glad that animal is off the streets.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Crazy that someone's vacation would center around getting high, what a bunch of losers.

Are you talking about the woman arrested at Disney? That was CBD.

No THC to get high.

 

[hotanez]

Are you talking about the woman arrested at Disney? That was CBD.

No THC to get high.

no I'm talking about the people that are visiting Cali just to light up. They show up smoke all day, no going anywhere or doing anything, just getting High. The CBD is great. my Mom has MS and it's worked wonders for her.

 

[CGI_Ram]

no I'm talking about the people that are visiting Cali just to light up. They show up smoke all day, no going anywhere or doing anything, just getting High. The CBD is great. my Mom has MS and it's worked wonders for her.

Oops. Sorry about that.

Good point.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

I truly hope that they legalize it in all 50 states. Here in Cali my neighbor is doing the Airbnb and all their visitors just come and smoke dope outside. Really sucks when my 6yr old daughter and I have to go inside the house because of the smoke. She gets bummed because we can't play soccer outside. Maybe if they legalize it in all the states people won't come to visit just to light up. Crazy that someone's vacation would center around getting high, what a bunch of losers.

Dude that sucks

Carpinteria used to have the smell of cut flowers wafting in the air during the evenings but that’s been replaced by the smell of dank ass bud. All the greenhouses have switched from tulips to the white widow. I discovered this first hand while me and my family were renting there for a spell — and I gotta tell you it was kinda whack.

I like the smell of weed but one night i left my windows open and my car ended up smelling like Spicoli’s van and my wife came in and got all mad accusing me of roasting a spliff in the Volvo. It was tough convincing her that it was simply the night air......

 

[1maGoh]

Anytime you see this

“These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or ailment.”

On a product or website you know you are buying snake oil.

This stuff isn't regulated and the people making it are making claims that are outright bullcrap.

That label is on every vitamin and every herbal supplement sold right now. It's also on some very fringe supplements that I've taken that absolutely work.

That label doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I don't think the CBD and pot are the cancer curing, anti-inflammatory, panaceas that they are made out to be, but that label doesn't mean a supplement doesn't work.

 

[LesBaker]

That label is on every vitamin and every herbal supplement sold right now. It's also on some very fringe supplements that I've taken that absolutely work.

That label doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I don't think the CBD and pot are the cancer curing, anti-inflammatory, panaceas that they are made out to be, but that label doesn't mean a supplement doesn't work.

That label is on products that are making claims that are not backed up by evidence or science in order to avoid legal problems. The reason you see it on supplements is the wild claims about boosting metabolism and testosterone and other wild claims about packing on muscle and so forth. You see it on cosmetics that make claims about anti-aging and other shit too.

The reason the manufacturers of various products use the label is because they know the claims they are making are dubious at best and usually outright falsehoods. If the product did what they claimed it does they wouldn't need to say that it doesn't right on the fucking package LOL.

Just in this thread, less than two pages look at the claims.

Anti inflammatory
Arthritis
Scoliosis
Anxiety
MS

Now if you look online you'll find claims for nearly everything, literally the list would be dozens and dozens of "cures".

This is snake oil, it's a hustle and people are spending like mad on it LOL.

 

[tklongball]

I would guess as far as the NFL if it shows up on a drug test, they are screwed. And I would imagine that if it shows up on a drug test would completely depend on which product the player used. I would imagine that there is a huge difference in ingredients, THC% etc, from product to product.

 

[hotanez]

That label is on products that are making claims that are not backed up by evidence or science in order to avoid legal problems. The reason you see it on supplements is the wild claims about boosting metabolism and testosterone and other wild claims about packing on muscle and so forth. You see it on cosmetics that make claims about anti-aging and other crap too.

The reason the manufacturers of various products use the label is because they know the claims they are making are dubious at best and usually outright falsehoods. If the product did what they claimed it does they wouldn't need to say that it doesn't right on the freaking package LOL.

Just in this thread, less than two pages look at the claims.

Anti inflammatory
Arthritis
Scoliosis
Anxiety
MS

Now if you look online you'll find claims for nearly everything, literally the list would be dozens and dozens of "cures".

This is snake oil, it's a hustle and people are spending like mad on it LOL.

I guess you know it all right? lol

 

[LesBaker]

I guess you know it all right? lol

Ahh no, far from it. But I know bullshit when I see it.

If any one product solved and cured as many issues as CBD makers claimed theirs does it would be highly regulated and studied. And the drug companies would be in on the action too.

You have to be skeptical when product manufacturers put that particular legalese on a product to protect themselves from lawsuits.

 

[hotanez]

Ahh no, far from it. But I know bullcrap when I see it.

If any one product solved and cured as many issues as CBD makers claimed theirs does it would be highly regulated and studied. And the drug companies would be in on the action too.

You have to be skeptical when product manufacturers put that particular legalese on a product to protect themselves from lawsuits.

When the current drugs on the market don't do shit for a person with MS like my Mom and you have no other options you try anything in hopes they get better. My Mom continues to have MS, it's definitely not a cure, but it's improved her quality of life tremendously.

 

[Young Ram]

Ahh no, far from it. But I know bullcrap when I see it.

If any one product solved and cured as many issues as CBD makers claimed theirs does it would be highly regulated and studied. And the drug companies would be in on the action too.

You have to be skeptical when product manufacturers put that particular legalese on a product to protect themselves from lawsuits.

Nobody is saying that it cures anything. What it does do is provide RELIEF from certain illnesses and diseases.

Just because the FDA, a government entity, doesn’t approve of it you call it bullshit? The same government that thinks cannabis is more dangerous than cocaine and meth. Yea ok.

 

[RamFan503]

The NFL is largely stupid so probably not.
CBD has to carry some THC (very small amounts) to be absorbed.
The amounts are small enough as to be classified as not having any psycho active effects.
But, I don't know if it would pop on certain tests. I know your run of the mill employee tick test doesn't show it.
Some of the CBD that I've home processed has no psycho active effect at all. Give to a parent in their mid 80s with balance problems with no ill effect at all.

We set THC levels with the testing company we were using several years back. Our goal was to only be notified if it was someone who was likely currently high or was a continual user. My point of course is that I'm sure the NFL could do the same - especially now.