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Pretty much
Geoff, Wentz, Lynch & Cook appear to be the top 4 currently. I thing Wentz is the best For what it's worth
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ahhahahhaahahhaah..... I'm gonna have to show you.....I still know a lil about football. Hackenberg will be pretty successful in the league. Bank on it.....
http://www.fueledbysports.com/christian-hackenberg-scouting-report/
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/...scouting-report-penn-state-quarterback-eagles
See, the trick is, how do you get the best outta a guy with all the arm talent in the world? Can Weinke? Boras? And now, maybe Pat Shurmur? If you don't have faith in the coaches, I get that...But to just throw a young man under the bus because of poor o-line play in college, after looking awesome as a FRESHMAN...naw, too soon. due to the lack of weapons....we need a sure handed TE....another big-time wr...Which is why, even tho I really like Wentz, I could see us stuck at 15 needing to go BPA, which may well be a DE, LB, or WR, we'll need a 2nd round QB...and Cook, Hogan, & Hackenberg fit that bill.
And truthfully....they're all better than Mannion, right now.
ahhahahhaahahhaah..... I'm gonna have to show you.....I still know a lil about football. Hackenberg will be pretty successful in the league. Bank on it.....
http://www.fueledbysports.com/christian-hackenberg-scouting-report/
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/...scouting-report-penn-state-quarterback-eagles
See, the trick is, how do you get the best outta a guy with all the arm talent in the world? Can Weinke? Boras? And now, maybe Pat Shurmur? If you don't have faith in the coaches, I get that...But to just throw a young man under the bus because of poor o-line play in college, after looking awesome as a FRESHMAN...naw, too soon. due to the lack of weapons....we need a sure handed TE....another big-time wr...Which is why, even tho I really like Wentz, I could see us stuck at 15 needing to go BPA, which may well be a DE, LB, or WR, we'll need a 2nd round QB...and Cook, Hogan, & Hackenberg fit that bill.
And truthfully....they're all better than Mannion, right now.
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I see Dallas signing Manziel or RGIII so I don't think they will draft a QB. But its obvious to me that its a 3 QB class (Goff, Wentz, and Lynch) and the rams have to do whatever it takes to get one of those three.
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Definitely find Hackenberg one of the more intriguing prospects in this draft. Teams are gonna be doing a ton of extra homework on him. Is he a senior? He's the kinda guy who'd benefit most from a good showing at a place like the senior bowl.
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@Dieter the Brock - I'm a firm believer you can destroy a QB behind a bad line or with bad play calling that gets them sacked. See: Bulger, Harrington, Carr... and only rarely do we see someone resurrected from that - Warner.
That's why you gotta do your homework on them.
That's why you gotta do your homework on them.
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@WestCoastRam Watch the Texans grab him with their #2
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Just think, we only have 3 months to talk about it...
Egads, the off season in the NFL seems a lifetime
Egads, the off season in the NFL seems a lifetime
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ahhahahhaahahhaah..... I'm gonna have to show you.....I still know a lil about football. Hackenberg will be pretty successful in the league. Bank on it.....
http://www.fueledbysports.com/christian-hackenberg-scouting-report/
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/...scouting-report-penn-state-quarterback-eagles
See, the trick is, how do you get the best outta a guy with all the arm talent in the world? Can Weinke? Boras? And now, maybe Pat Shurmur? If you don't have faith in the coaches, I get that...But to just throw a young man under the bus because of poor o-line play in college, after looking awesome as a FRESHMAN...naw, too soon. due to the lack of weapons....we need a sure handed TE....another big-time wr...Which is why, even tho I really like Wentz, I could see us stuck at 15 needing to go BPA, which may well be a DE, LB, or WR, we'll need a 2nd round QB...and Cook, Hogan, & Hackenberg fit that bill.
And truthfully....they're all better than Mannion, right now.
I'm not banking on it. But we'll find out. I think he's like Blaine Gabbert. Looks great in 7 on 7s and then you get him on the field on Sunday (well...Saturday in college) and...disaster.
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I honestly think we will have to jump up into the top 10 to get Wentz. And I would do it in a heartbeat. I know the leap will be huge for him But I believe he is the best qb in the draft and don't mind giving our 1st and one of our 2nds this year plus a future pick if need be. I believe he will end up being alot like can Newton once he fills out his frame in an nfl strength and condiontiong program! GO GET THIS KID FOR L.A.
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as per twitter Chase Goodbread @ChaseGoodbread moments ago
Savage on Wentz "In the last 2 wks I've gotten 2 calls from (NFL Personnel) that he's NOT only a first-Rder, BUT a top 10 guy"
Like I say we need to move heaven & earth to secure his pick, imho!!!!
Savage on Wentz "In the last 2 wks I've gotten 2 calls from (NFL Personnel) that he's NOT only a first-Rder, BUT a top 10 guy"
Like I say we need to move heaven & earth to secure his pick, imho!!!!
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/carson-wentz?id=2555259
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In his first year as a starter for the Bison in 2014, all Wentz did was throw for 3,111 yards and 25 touchdowns, leading the team to its fourth consecutive FCS Championship. What did the Bismarck, N.D. native do for an encore? Just come back from a broken right wrist that sidelined him for two months to lead NDSU in a fifth-straight title game victory. He started seven games in his senior year, completing 62.5 percent of his passes for 1,651 yards and 17 touchdowns (and four interceptions) while also running for six scores. Intelligence and work ethic are no issues for Wentz, who was named to the College Sports Information Directors Association All-American squad for the second-straight year.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Tall with an athletic, proportional build that is made for the NFL position. Played in a pro-style attack with plenty of snaps under center. Asked to make NFL throws and showed he could do it. Stands tall in the pocket and delivers with a relatively high release point. Keeps ball high and tight in the pocket and can uncork it quickly with tight, sharp release and little wasted motion. Throws catchable ball with tight spiral. Naturally accurate passer. Sees lurking linebackers underneath and throws receivers open to safest spot in the passing window. Able to change arm slots and still throw a strike. Has plus deep ball accuracy and touch. Calm in pocket and has no problems sitting in and taking a hit to complete a pass. Excelled in structured passing attack that required him to read the entire field. Has athleticism to escape pressure and hurt defenses with his legs. Already able to feel pressure on the edges and slide around in pocket without dropping his eyes. Adept in play-action game at selling fakes and quickly finding safeties to help determine where to go with the ball. Intelligent with long list of academic achievements. Should be able to process and handle an NFL playbook quickly. Can play pitch and catch all day long against zone coverage.
WEAKNESSES
When rolling out, will float it a little too much when taking shots down the field. Allows passing windows to close quickly when he short arms his release. Needs a little more consistency on anticipatory throws outside the hash. Will get caught locking in on target bringing secondary charging in to make a play on the ball. Inconsistent footwork from the pocket. Arm gets ahead of his feet even with time to come to balance. Needs to pick up pace of his postsnap setup. Has to put a little extra air on his field-side throws. Can be a little flat with his downfield, touch throws. Has to eliminate the occasional nonchalant throw into tight quarters. Doesn’t look comfortable yet with bootleg rollouts to the left. Broke a bone in his throwing wrist in October sidelining him for eight weeks. Dealt with arm and shoulder injuries as a baseball player in high school. Lower level of competition could cause issues for him adapting to NFL speed.
NFL COMPARISON
Blake Bortles
BOTTOM LINE
With a body type that is as prototypical as they come and a background in reading the entire field and working through progressions, Wentz will immediately check a couple of boxes that many college quarterbacks won’t be able to check. While his arm strength is OK, he can still make all the throws and he can make them with accuracy. His ability to escape pressure and pick up first downs with his feet will be yet another check mark in his favor. Wentz is still in a developmental phase after just two years at an FBS program, but has the mental and physical building blocks of a future, franchise quarterback.
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In his first year as a starter for the Bison in 2014, all Wentz did was throw for 3,111 yards and 25 touchdowns, leading the team to its fourth consecutive FCS Championship. What did the Bismarck, N.D. native do for an encore? Just come back from a broken right wrist that sidelined him for two months to lead NDSU in a fifth-straight title game victory. He started seven games in his senior year, completing 62.5 percent of his passes for 1,651 yards and 17 touchdowns (and four interceptions) while also running for six scores. Intelligence and work ethic are no issues for Wentz, who was named to the College Sports Information Directors Association All-American squad for the second-straight year.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Tall with an athletic, proportional build that is made for the NFL position. Played in a pro-style attack with plenty of snaps under center. Asked to make NFL throws and showed he could do it. Stands tall in the pocket and delivers with a relatively high release point. Keeps ball high and tight in the pocket and can uncork it quickly with tight, sharp release and little wasted motion. Throws catchable ball with tight spiral. Naturally accurate passer. Sees lurking linebackers underneath and throws receivers open to safest spot in the passing window. Able to change arm slots and still throw a strike. Has plus deep ball accuracy and touch. Calm in pocket and has no problems sitting in and taking a hit to complete a pass. Excelled in structured passing attack that required him to read the entire field. Has athleticism to escape pressure and hurt defenses with his legs. Already able to feel pressure on the edges and slide around in pocket without dropping his eyes. Adept in play-action game at selling fakes and quickly finding safeties to help determine where to go with the ball. Intelligent with long list of academic achievements. Should be able to process and handle an NFL playbook quickly. Can play pitch and catch all day long against zone coverage.
WEAKNESSES
When rolling out, will float it a little too much when taking shots down the field. Allows passing windows to close quickly when he short arms his release. Needs a little more consistency on anticipatory throws outside the hash. Will get caught locking in on target bringing secondary charging in to make a play on the ball. Inconsistent footwork from the pocket. Arm gets ahead of his feet even with time to come to balance. Needs to pick up pace of his postsnap setup. Has to put a little extra air on his field-side throws. Can be a little flat with his downfield, touch throws. Has to eliminate the occasional nonchalant throw into tight quarters. Doesn’t look comfortable yet with bootleg rollouts to the left. Broke a bone in his throwing wrist in October sidelining him for eight weeks. Dealt with arm and shoulder injuries as a baseball player in high school. Lower level of competition could cause issues for him adapting to NFL speed.
NFL COMPARISON
Blake Bortles
BOTTOM LINE
With a body type that is as prototypical as they come and a background in reading the entire field and working through progressions, Wentz will immediately check a couple of boxes that many college quarterbacks won’t be able to check. While his arm strength is OK, he can still make all the throws and he can make them with accuracy. His ability to escape pressure and pick up first downs with his feet will be yet another check mark in his favor. Wentz is still in a developmental phase after just two years at an FBS program, but has the mental and physical building blocks of a future, franchise quarterback.
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Tony Pauline @TonyPauline 19m19 minutes ago
Word here at the Senior Bowl; MSU teammates have been less than effusive in their praise of quaterback Connor Cook.
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Word here at the Senior Bowl; MSU teammates have been less than effusive in their praise of quaterback Connor Cook.
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Interesting. I'd like some direct quotes though, that could mean literally anything.
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You're not going to get any quotes. Nobody going on the record like that. These guys are all out to land an NFL gig and don't want to be attached to any bulletin board stuff. And also, he is/was their teammate. Got to muster up support some how.
Cat wasn't elected captain in 3 years and not getting raves from his teammates.
Says a lot
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Is it a bad thing that I hope he DOESNT kill it in Senior Bowl practice/game?
Might turn attention back to the other guys so he slips a bit, to say #15 overall??
Might turn attention back to the other guys so he slips a bit, to say #15 overall??
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Yeah all this possible number 1 QB talk is killin me. He is my favorite QB prospect but I will be happy as long as they got one of Goff, Wentz, Lynch.