Browns big trade #2 today.... Tyrod Taylor

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This is a very smart move. Tyrod is a great bridge QB for them. They can be patient with their young QB and develop him. Plus, it'll allow them to be competitive in 2018. I really like what the Browns did today (although, I don't like Landry's contract demands).
 

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Maybe so but there's a fair bit of dysfunctional brain power there too. Browns be browns until proven otherwise. And before anyone brings up our crappy years after the GSOT and before, we have a history that is FAR better than anything the browns have put together.

Yeah, Lego blocks and cinder blocks both have value, but unless you can mesh them together somehow, that's only half the battle...
 

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Maybe so but there's a fair bit of dysfunctional brain power there too. Browns be browns until proven otherwise. And before anyone brings up our crappy years after the GSOT and before, we have a history that is FAR better than anything the browns have put together.

I don't think history is a big deal. The Browns were once a dynasty. Then, they fell apart. Dorsey is a very smart and capable GM. He's off to a great start. That Damarious Randall trade is as big of a steal as our Marcus Peters trade. I don't think the Browns are going to be crap for much longer.
 

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I don't think history is a big deal. The Browns were once a dynasty. Then, they fell apart. Dorsey is a very smart and capable GM. He's off to a great start. That Damarious Randall trade is as big of a steal as our Marcus Peters trade. I don't think the Browns are going to be crap for much longer.
When were the Browns a dynasty? When they were wearing leather helmets?
 

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Rumor has it he wouldn't agree to the trade unless they had a QB so they must've told him about the trade and he signed off.
 

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When were the Browns a dynasty? When they were wearing leather helmets?

1940s through the 1960s. They were also a good team during the 80s under Schottenheimer, but they didn't win any Super Bowls. IMO, they've been mismanaged for quite awhile, just like the Rams were. Dorsey is the right guy to build a winning team. We'll see if Hue is the right coach to lead one.
 

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1940s through the 1960s. They were also a good team during the 80s under Schottenheimer, but they didn't win any Super Bowls. IMO, they've been mismanaged for quite awhile, just like the Rams were. Dorsey is the right guy to build a winning team. We'll see if Hue is the right coach to lead one.
Tell him about Paul Brown @jrry32
 

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The history of the Cleveland Browns American football team began in 1944 when taxi-cab magnate Arthur B. "Mickey" McBride secured a Cleveland, Ohio franchise in the newly formed All-America Football Conference (AAFC). Paul Brown, who coach Bill Walsh once called the "father of modern football",[1] was the team's namesake and first coach. From the beginning of play in 1946 at Cleveland Municipal Stadium, the Browns were a great success. Cleveland won each of the AAFC's four championship games before the league dissolved in 1949. The team then moved to the more established National Football League (NFL), where it continued to dominate. Between 1950 and 1955, Cleveland reached the NFL championship game every year, winning three times.

McBride and his partners sold the team to a group of Cleveland businessmen in 1953 for a then-unheard-of $600,000. Eight years later, the team was sold again, this time to a group led by New York advertising executive Art Modell. Modell fired Brown before the 1963 season, but the team continued to win behind running back Jim Brown. The Browns won the championship in 1964 and reached the title game the following season, losing to the Green Bay Packers. The team subsequently reached the playoffs three times in the late 1980s, but fell short of playing in the Super Bowl, the inter-league championship game between the NFL and the rival American Football League (AFL) that started in 1966.

When the AFL and NFL merged before the 1970 season, Cleveland became part of the new American Football Conference (AFC). While the Browns made it back to the playoffs in 1971 and 1972, they fell into mediocrity through the mid-1970s. A revival of sorts took place in 1979 and 1980, when quarterback Brian Sipe engineered a series of last-minute wins and the Browns came to be called the "Kardiac Kids". Under Sipe, however, the Browns did not make it past the first round of the playoffs. Quarterback Bernie Kosar, who the Browns drafted in 1985, led the team to three AFC Championship games in the late 1980s but lost each time. In 1995, Modell announced he was relocating the Browns to Baltimore, sowing a mix of outrage and bitterness among Cleveland's dedicated fan base. Negotiations and legal battles led to an agreement where Modell was allowed to move the team, but Cleveland kept the Browns' name, colors and history. After three years of suspension while the old municipal stadium was demolished and Cleveland Browns Stadium took its place, the Browns started play again in 1999 under new owner Al Lerner. Since resuming operations, the Browns have made the playoffs only once, as a wild-card team in 2002.

The Browns are only one of 12 NFL franchises to predate the 1960 launch of the American Football League, and are only one of three such teams in the AFC.
 
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Paul Brown created the Browns, named after him and the Browns were the team that took over in Cleveland when the Rams came to Cali in (1948)? the Browns fled Cleveland, and are now the Ravens
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Close. The team is named after him. However, he created the Bengals. He was hired by the Browns as their first coach when they were building the AAFC in the 1940s. They actually existed in Cleveland before the Rams left, but weren't in the NFL at that point. The Rams and the Browns had some epic battles when the Browns finally joined the NFL after the AAFC dissolved.
 

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no, the orignal Browns had to leave the name behind, in order for the Browns to move to Baltimore Hence the SB winning Ravens
So you’re saying it’s the Browns name that’s the problem. Doesn’t that make them still the Browns? :sneaky: