Bobby Wagner Released

[dang]

For it to be a good wey dream where you have Rochelle it should read Gilmore lol

Id take Rashul Douglas but didn’t want to get too greedy.

 

[IE Rams]

18 followers

You went and followed, didn’t you?

 

[payote75]

Id take Rashul Douglas but didn’t want to get too greedy.

Ok finnnnnnnne!!!

 

[Liberator]

Fwiw I'd be stunned if Staley spends on an ILB even one as good as Wagner lol

 

[Merlin]

That Fangio system has seen some top ILBs. They value them tbh.

 

[BuffaloRam]

It still irks me that the Seahawks took Wagner at 47 and all we got was Isaiah Pead….

 

[ProGen]

It still irks me that the Seahawks took Wagner at 47 and all we got was Isaiah Pead….

*shudders*

 

[ottoman89]

With the cap room they have, it'd be easy for them. If it's an LA team, I fully expect it to be LAC. We all know the Rams won't spend much money or draft capital on an ILB. With E. Jones being somewhat of an exception.

 

[Ram65]

So the author credits his huge, league leading, tackle number to the defense being on the field more but doesn't give the same consideration for more missed tackles. Yeah, if he's on the field that much more, there are bound to be more missed tackles, especially when you add the fatigue factor for more defensive snaps, which he plays all.

Then he adds his subjective opinion that bobby has lost a step based on one fucking play. Oh, no, he missed a play. He must be getting old and slowing down. Even if that were the case, I'd take 95% bobby over most linebackers in the league. Maybe, get him on a team with a real dline that isn't on the field most the game and see how that works out. What was that, Von?

From the article

"Such plays have become more frequent in Wagner's game, particularly in coverage, and as he continues to age, athletic deficiencies will inevitably become a greater hindrance to his game. For that reason alone, the Seahawks may explore restructuring his contract or trying to find a trade partner to minimize costs. If another team acquired him prior to June 1, the team would save more than $16 million with the remainder of his contract being non-guaranteed and incur just a $3.75 dead cap hit.

With that said, Wagner's incredible football IQ and stellar tackling technique should allow him to age more gracefully than most linebackers. His leadership presence in Seattle's locker room also cannot be understated, as trying to replace him in that capacity would be extremely difficult. Add in the fact other teams likely won't be willing to give up more than a third-round pick for him at this stage of his career, and the money saved doesn't justify making such a bold move."
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He's not basing the lost step on one play. It happens to all great players. They all slow down with age. He does say he will age more gracefully. I can him see losing some weight to try and gain some quickness back. He is also looking at the cap hit of $16M and Wagner's future with the Hags.

I usually think in this situation that a player like Wagner still has good value to a team for a couple of more years. I think the cost would outweigh the benefits of the Rams signing him. It will be interesting to see what he gets paid as a free agent. It's hard to guess but, a two-year deal of around $20M might be a start. He is rated two spots behind Darius Williams as the #19 free agent by CBS sports.

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The Rams have Earnest Jones taking Reeder's snaps. Jones is looking like a steal in round three of last year's draft. The other ILB spot is open but, the Rams will probably look for a much less expensive player as they don't keep him on the field on all three downs. The Rams need to find a way to resign Von Miller which will cost a lot of cap space.

Wagner got injured on the first play against the Lions in week 16 and missed the week 17 game. Looks like he will be fine.

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Wagner is currently recovering from MCL and PCL sprains of his knee, but he didn't require offseason surgery and should be 100 percent well in advance of training camp.

Bobby Wagner, Seattle Seahawks, MLB - News, Stats, Bio​

 

[dieterbrock]

….. and all we got was Isaiah Pead….

Yeah the Rams really pissed that chance away….

 

[Allen2McVay]

It still irks me that the Seahawks took Wagner at 47 and all we got was Isaiah Pead….

And Rokevious Watkins, who they got with the 5th round pick for trading-down in Round Two.

So THAT pretty-much changes everything ... Right???

 

[jrry32]

With the cap room they have, it'd be easy for them. If it's an LA team, I fully expect it to be LAC. We all know the Rams won't spend much money or draft capital on an ILB. With E. Jones being somewhat of an exception.

We have something they don't . . . champions status. If Bobby is willing to accept less to play for a contender, that bodes well for us.

 

[ottoman89]

We have something they don't . . . champions status. If Bobby is willing to accept less to play for a contender, that bodes well for us.

Athletes can say it ain't about the money. But most of the time it's about the money.

 

[Florida_Ram]

We have something they don't . . . champions status. If Bobby is willing to accept less to play for a contender, that bodes well for us.

The we have something they don't cliche is overused imo.

Too many people think this way.

The Rams might be the modern-day popular choice that screams come play for us and our awesome new SoFi stadium, amazing culture and super cool head coach, but the willing to accept less perception is way overstated.

I don't buy into the hype that the Rams current culture and success is as persuasive as a lot of people on this forum think.

Money will always have more power than championship status (I want to win a ring) cliches'.


cliché

NOUN
clichés (plural noun) · cliches (plural noun)

1. a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought.

 

[den-the-coach]

Money will always have more power than championship status (I want to win a ring) cliches'.

IMO, if it's significantly different, but if it's close, you can make more money in Hollywood with endorsements then you can in Kalamazoo.

 

[Oregonram]

It still irks me that the Seahawks took Wagner at 47 and all we got was Isaiah Pead….

Isaiah Pead the bed

 

[den-the-coach]

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports free agent Bobby Wagner wants to sign with the Rams or Chargers.
Signing with either team would be a homecoming for Wagner, who's from Los Angeles. The Rams would allow Wagner to stay in the NFC West while the Chargers have the cap space to get a deal done. Wagner has also been connected to Dallas and ex-Seahawks DC Dan Quinn but it's unlikely the Cowboys have the money to sign him. The six-time All Pro is the top linebacker available in free agency.

 

[Riverumbbq]

IMO, if it's significantly different, but if it's close, you can make more money in Hollywood with endorsements then you can in Kalamazoo.

Agree. I also believe it may come down to the age of the player and how much money they have previously made, how many more years they feel they'll be viable talent wise, whether they have a Super Bowl ring/s already, and if they hold great importance in the manner which they complete their careers. If a player hasn't been wise with his earnings in the past, holding out for a bigger payday makes sense, although someone who is quite secure financially may decide that going out on top and/or moving to a city they prefer for themselves and their family may be in their best interests.
jmo.

 

[Mojo Ram]

I wish he had credibility. And dude only has 17 followers.

He'll have more followers after that baseless, un-sourced, attention whoring tweet. That is how the social media world works. The death of journalism indeed.

Someone should ask Wagner who he wants to take his revenge on twice a year...his former QB who triggered the Seahawks break up? Or the Seahawks HC who released him. We'll have our answer to LAC or LAR.

 

[Flatlyner]

I am hoping that LAC does get a trade done with Philly for Cox and takes away a big chunk of their FA money. All things being equal, I'm sure Wagz would rather play for the defending champs and against the team that cut him via social media twice a year. Another huge benefit is he fits the Rams acquiring him perfect, cut casualty = no ding against comp pick formula. Go get him.