Bad Coaching in the NFL

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dieterbrock

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I did too , but using your final timeout on 3rd down to save 15 seconds ahead of the 2 minute warning is a terrible decision. It allowed the Jets time to set up a play and the option to pass the ball. Poor use of a precious TO late in the game.
It was the correct use of a timeout.
I don’t know how this could be questioned? Stopping that 3rd down was the only play at that point. The timeout made sure they had their best defense set. They don’t call time out and the Jets could unexpectedly snap the ball before the 2 minute and the Rams would be off guard. There’s no coach in that position thinking about saving the timeout in case the Jets make the 1st down. Game is over if they don’t stop the Jets there.
 

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McVay is one of the better coaches in the league. But he does have some head scratching moments. Two low percentage deep passes in a row when you need 4 yards? I know we complained about the routes short of 1st down on 3rd and 8. But you gotta quit out smarting yourself.
 

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But, yeah I always come back to this ^

McVay is young, prideful, smart. He’s a long play HC. Think Mike Tomlin, year over year his guys are in the mix. Ride that ride.

Kroenke is a great fit here.

Yeah, even though Mike Tomlin is one of the best, his worst years being 8-8, he still takes a lot of crap. Sean McVay hasn't fallen that far, yet but it could happen. In fact, it's more likely that it will happen than not. What will be the sentiment then? I'm freaked out by just thinking about it.

The overreaction after an L is dumb. It's simple, you got got. I guess that's just what people do, taking advantage of the situation with a smug attitude, often trying to be snarkier and snarkier each time.

Overreact over Ls and underreact over Ws. Ever notice how much more activity occurs on losing teams' message boards or talked about on tv after an L?
 

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McVay is one of the better coaches in the league. But he does have some head scratching moments. Two low percentage deep passes in a row when you need 4 yards? I know we complained about the routes short of 1st down on 3rd and 8. But you gotta quit out smarting yourself.
You guys realize that the coach gives the QB read order right? That McVay didn't put his hand up Jared's ass and make those throws.

The fucking QB reads the defense people fuck. Jared made his reads on those plays and they were incompletions.
 

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It was the correct use of a timeout.
I don’t know how this could be questioned? Stopping that 3rd down was the only play at that point. The timeout made sure they had their best defense set. They don’t call time out and the Jets could unexpectedly snap the ball before the 2 minute and the Rams would be off guard. There’s no coach in that position thinking about saving the timeout in case the Jets make the 1st down. Game is over if they don’t stop the Jets there.

Cmon buddy.
If the Jets snap the ball before the 2 minute warning, it would be the first time I’ve ever seen it in my lifetime. Save the TO and talk about your best defensive set at 2:00 mark. The coach should be aware of all the scenarios. Saving those 15 seconds is meaningless.
If they get the ball back , 2 minutes is plenty of time to score , plus they have a security blanket TO left. Not trying to debate it, but that was the wrong decision at the time. Merry Christmas
 

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Cmon buddy.
If the Jets snap the ball before the 2 minute warning, it would be the first time I’ve ever seen it in my lifetime. Save the TO and talk about your best defensive set at 2:00 mark. The coach should be aware of all the scenarios. Saving those 15 seconds is meaningless.
If they get the ball back , 2 minutes is plenty of time to score , plus they have a security blanket TO left. Not trying to debate it, but that was the wrong decision at the time. Merry Christmas
Yes for sure, Merry Christmas indeed! No need do dwell on the past. Rams own their playoff destiny
 

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Out of the two last year and one this year credited in the (EDIT) pro football reference page (END EDIT) we both linked, where did you get one in the last two years?

Look at your link at the end it shows one 4th quarter comback in 2019 and 2020. The other you see are Game winning drives, could be outside of the 4th quarter...
 

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Look at your link at the end it shows one 4th quarter comback in 2019 and 2020. The other you see are Game winning drives, could be outside of the 4th quarter...
Well, you're correct. Would you mind if I moved the goal posts just a little and discussed how incredibly fucking stupid making a distinction between a fourth quarter comeback and a third quarter comeback is? Or if I talked about how some it is to list things that aren't fourth quarter comebacks on a reference page for fourth quarter comebacks (not your doing, but it's stupid)?
 

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Sean McVay and Bill Belichick say hello


We’ve reaching the point where Sean McVay and Bill Belichick have made it to C’mon Coach, and frankly, we’re both proud and disappointed.

The more time Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay has to think about an opponent, the dumber he gets.


McVay had 10 days to prepare for the New York Jets, who were coming off a 40-3 surrender to the Seattle Seahawks and are coached by a rabid stoat. So how well-prepared was the NFL’s answer to Elon Musk for what should have been the easiest win on his team’s schedule?

Well, the Rams went three-and-out on their first two possessions, allowing a 74-yard touchdown drive to a pea-shooter offense in between. Then they surrendered a blocked punt. Then an interception.

It was 20-3 in the third quarter by the time their dignity kicked in. But by then it was too late: the Jets won their first game of the season by a 23-20 score, and the Rams jeopardized their playoff hopes on an afternoon when they should have clinched a berth by halftime.

“That was very humbling,” McVay said after the game, per Adam Maya of NFL.com. Sure was.

Last season, the Rams came off their bye and lost 17-12 to the Mason Rudolph-led Pittsburgh Steelers. Given a 10-day layover after a Thursday night game last year, they lost 20-7 to the San Francisco 49ers.

The Rams beat the Seattle Seahawks off their bye this year, but they had nowhere to go but up after they were upset 28-17 in a four-turnover fiasco against the Miami Dolphins before the bye. And who can forget how the Rams looked in their 13-3 loss to the New England Patriots in Super Bowl LIII?

It was as if McVay spent the two preparation weeks before the big game coming to grips with the fact he’s no Bill Belichick, but merely the nutty neighbor who keeps dropping by for dinner in the 2010s sitcom Jammin’ With the Shanahans.

McVay’s problem isn’t that he has too much time to think during bye weeks and mini-byes. It’s that he has never, ever come up with a Plan B in four seasons as a head coach.


If Jared Goff makes a few early mistakes, there’s a special teams snafu or defensive lapse, or if the patented McVay system just isn’t clicking, the Rams become a turtle on its back in a soup factory.

McVay doesn’t really do adjustments, and the Rams don’t do comebacks: Goff is credited with just one fourth-quarter comeback in the last two seasons. For comparison’s sake, Sam Darnold somehow has two.

The Rams had a chance to come back and win on Sunday. They trailed by three points with 4:05 to play when they reached the Jets 37-yard line.

On 3rd-and-4, McVay emptied the backfield and ordered a deep wheel route to rookie running back Cam Akers. Goff’s pass sailed over Akers’ head. On 4th-and-4, McVay emptied the backfield again and called a similar play concept up the opposite sideline to tight end Gerald Everett. That pass was broken up, essentially ending the game.

Two deep sideline shots? To a rookie running back and a tight end? On the fringe of game-tying field goal range? In four-down territory? When a shallow cross or even a swing pass could have netted a first down? Against the worst team in the Milky Way? With the playoffs on the line? Did McVay expect Gregg Williams to parachute onto the Jets sideline wearing a headset and call the ol’ Madden “Engage Eight” blitz?


“I’ve got to do a better job getting us ready to go,” McVay said. “And really it was in all three phases, it wasn’t good enough.”

Congratulations, Aging Boy Wunderkind. You just got outcoached by Adam Gase. As punishment, you should slam a car door shut on your own forehead over and over again until you lose consciousness.
One would hope Darnold has at least 2 4th quarter comebacks since he has been behind in virtually almost
every game he has played.
As for the article.......... complete and total

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Gruden last night was an egregious coaching error. Electing to stay out of endzone to run clock? Insane. Only makes sense to do that if you can run clock all the way out or at least take a lead of 4 or more points. Passing up a 5 to 7 point lead with less than a minute to go for a 2 point lead with 15-20? I'd fire him
 

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I'm just glad these guys decided to lead NFL teams and not become leaders in our military. Their inability to out strategize an opponent is very disturbing especially when that opponent is of lesser strength and talent.
 
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Any article that suggests McVay and Belichick are bad coaches is not gonna get a read from me; not even entertaining the idea. Every coach is subject to scrutiny but they're only human - they're bound to make mistakes, some bigger than others. Does losing to the Jets make McVay a bad coach? Not in the least. Does having a losing season make Belichick a bad coach? I don't think his 6 Superbowl rings would support that idea.
 

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Speaking of bad coaches - I was super surprised to see that Kyle Shanahan, the lord and savior of the 49ers, only has one winning season under his belt during his tenure there. That was last year and we all know how that ended. Yet I never hear anyone mention that Shanahan is a bad coach. If anything I constantly hear that his win/loss record is a product of everything else going on around the team - injuries included. Isn't the old saying "you are what your record says you are"? If so, Shanahan is a loser and McVay is a perennial winner.