uh oh, feeling risque!?
Here's one....Nick Fairley starts over Brockers.....and ....wild card here...Rhaney beats out Barnes & Jones....
Are you Ready? No, ARRREE YOOOOU REAADDYY?
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Here's one....Nick Fairley starts over Brockers.....and ....wild card here...Rhaney beats out Barnes & Jones....
I just want Camp to start, so there's something New and fresh to talk about each day!!
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It is almost here my friend. We have just one week, ONE WEEK and we will have fresh subjects to talk about for the next 5 months at the very least! I can wait me a week
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Bah, Fairley is too small to play the 1 tech over Brockers. He will sub for Brockers on obvious passing downs but Brockers is the beast in the middle of that line, Fairley won't supplant him.
This won't be the same Barnes we've already seen play in horns before. As much as I personally loved picking Barrett Jones and his versatility, smarts and 3 National Championships at 3 different OL positions , I still see a guy with 2 years more NFL atmosphere and is in his best shape ever after last years injury. In the 3 man rotation in OTA's Barnes got the first shot at being with the 1's. Meaning nothing also. I just think even tho Barrett played with his supposedly now healed Lis Franc injury in his foot his full senior year I can't help but wonder after a back injury no one here knows anything about and the subsequent loss of muscle mass once again and now rebuilt to either make or break an NFL career. I've had back surgeries after playing OL a while. We make good contact on every play .I know Jones is most everyones fan favorite to start the next 7 years like the RAMS pivot men of old (Iman,Saul,Smith).
I have a small inside that Barnes is really gonna be a guy we have'nt seen before and is gonna be and work towards dominance. Glad he will have Jones and Rhaney hot on his heels making him even better. Its why we did'nt sign anyone in FA'cy. I hope its close and may the best stud win to make our team the best it can be. Not EVEN sayin pro bowler but light years ahead of what Well's was for us these last few nightmarish years. I know its not the popular pick and even I wanted Jones to be our starter so I'm ready to be impressed from what a lil' bird told me. Barnes will be our starter if not injured again. So just get ready.
I have a small inside that Barnes is really gonna be a guy we have'nt seen before and is gonna be and work towards dominance. Glad he will have Jones and Rhaney hot on his heels making him even better. Its why we did'nt sign anyone in FA'cy. I hope its close and may the best stud win to make our team the best it can be. Not EVEN sayin pro bowler but light years ahead of what Well's was for us these last few nightmarish years. I know its not the popular pick and even I wanted Jones to be our starter so I'm ready to be impressed from what a lil' bird told me. Barnes will be our starter if not injured again. So just get ready.
Didn't someone in another post say Tavon can't win a contested catch??? TA practically judo-flips the CB (Johnson?? #22)
Tavon has to do proffesional route running training with a Jerry Rice or Issac Bruce and also hands work with the Jugs machine till his hands fall off. I know at West Viginia he was able to just run under long balls and they had 4-5 awesome speedsters as Stedman Bailey was one of them. Tavon has admitted the NFL playbook looked like Spanish to him and I agree Tavon has still not been used properly but I put more on TA for NOT putting in the work to be the Pro he was drafted to be.
You can't live off the past accomplishments and great plays made in COLLEGE. TA has to make a GIANT leap to ever live up to his draft status and I don't see the effort yet even tho many successfull plays have been called back due to penalties and all sorts of bad luck and dropped passes especially. Rice and Bruce and even Holt as did Ellard LIVED off of route precision along with great hands as Rice worked with bricks growing up with Dad as brick mason. TA has to start putting in the extra work till he takes the next step. I've not seen the effort and it does'nt mean he is'nt doing the offseason work. I just know I expect the highest level of dedication that TA should be shooting to be a Pro Bowl player and the best he could ever possibly be by now in his 3rd season with such poor results. Is he happy with his results? Does he feel its just been bad luck or the OC's fault who is gone now? If so then I'm even more dissapointed.
Yes TA has a great YT of college plays to go GA GA over but he has busted so far compared to his draft status. Is he just slow like Quick was out of Appalachian State? Why is'nt he more dissapointed with his production and he has to know by now he can't juke an NFL player with his moves from a standstill position. His only way to help the team is perfecting his craft of route running with great hands for many balls he has dropped up until now. Balls he now must own and take to first downs and not fumble at least and then have many more splash plays. STOP being satisfied with being a GADGET player as the former Gator who helped the seahags during there one SB game win then traded away.
I just expect TA not to be satisfied with anything but a much higher level of play. So much more than a punt or KO returnman. I wonder how much work he put in this offseason? He will regret so much if his effort is'nt of the highest level. Get over the mental and work with the finest to hone your skills. We will soon see how serious he is taking it.
http://nflspinzone.com/2015/07/26/st-louis-rams-training-camp-predictions/3/
St. Louis Rams Training Camp Predictions
by Matt LaPan 1d ago
Rookies Start On The Right
With no great plan for the right side of their offensive line, the Rams invested a heavy amount of draft capitol in offensive linemen. The Rams drafted Jamon Brown, Andrew Donnal, Rob Havenstein and Cody Winchmann, and then spent a Supplemental Draft pick on Isaiah Battle.
The Rams have third-year player Brandon Washington and free agent addition Garrett Reynolds in place to start at right tackle and right guard, respectively. By the end of Training Camp, however, they will have two rookies starting on the right side of the offensive line — Brown at guard and Havenstein at tackle.
Both Havenstein and Brown have ideal size to be NFL starters. Both over 6’4” and both over 320 pounds and both with tremendous strength. Both these players are fit to dominate in the run game, making them an ideal fit in front of first-round pick Todd Gurley.
Praise has been placed upon the Rams for selecting Havenstein, but it appears that head coach Jeff Fisher is most excited about Brown:
Gil BrandtVerified account @Gil_Brandt I was with Jeff Fisher last night, and the Rams are really excited about OL Jamon Brown; they think the third-rounder has Pro Bowl potential
The potential still has to be realized for both players, and both will make their first step towards that when they open Training Camp as starters.
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Fear Not, Les Snead Has Confidence in the Rams’ Young O-Line
Posted by: Luke Schnake in National Football League July 31, 2015
The Rams are no strangers to having young squads heading into training camp, often sporting one of the youngest rosters in the NFL for the last few years.
Rams GM Les Snead
Now, it’s the offensive line’s turn to represent the youth.
2015 third round draftees Rob Havenstein (Iowa) and Jamon Brown (Louisville) will most likely start at right tackle and right guard respectively, while the center position will be up for grabs between Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones, and Demetrius Rhaney.
Of those three, Barnes is the most NFL seasoned, with 14 games under his belt with Jones second at seven and Rhaney with none after spending his rookie year on the injured reserve list with a knee injury.
While some would write off the group as too unschooled to succeed, GM Les Snead begs to differ.
He’s seen success with a young line under O-Line coach Paul Boudreau.
“I think (success) is realistic. Obviously you guys have chatted about it, Coach (Boudreau) is really good. He’s done it…I was in Atlanta with him back with Harvey Dahl and Tyson Claybo…Harvey Dahl wasn’t Harvey Dahl yet. He was a college free agent who had bounced around on practice squads.” Snead said.
“(Boudreau) is really good and he’s got his hands full, but I do think what’s interesting about this group is they’re a group that’s played a lot of football…That experience helps. Whether it’s big Rob (Havenstein) with four years starting in the Big Ten, I mean that’s a lot of football and a lot of quality experience.”
As for translating college experience to the NFL in such a short time, Snead says it’s an easy enough solution.
With 14 games under his belt at center, Tim Barnes has the most experience of the three candidates for the position.
“It’s the simple answer of reps, reps, reps.” Snead said. “You’re gonna get it in practice…I think going to practice against the Cowboys will be big because we’ve got four preseason games and that’s a fifth opportunity to work against people you don’t know…I haven’t chatted with Jeff, but I think there’s some plans of playing those guys longer in preseason games.”
The young O-line will have their hands full facing opposing defensive linemen hell-bent on dirtying Nick Foles’ jersey. One of the bigger story lines in training camp will be how the offense performs versus their own seasoned D-line in Earth City.
“I think anybody will tell you that you want practice situations to be more stressful than games.” Snead said. “That’s probably easier said than done, but I do think that lining up and going against that group, when you do get to the games you’ll say, ‘Okay, I’m good here.’”
Running the ball will be a big part of the Rams’ game in 2015 and run blocking is usually considered an easier assignment for young offensive guards and tackles. Snead said this is especially the case in the NFC West and hopes blocking for runners will help the group gel more quickly.
“To be strong at the line of scrimmage, especially in the run game…It wasn’t just, ‘let’s go young,’ it was that we need to get this O-L where it gets continuity and let’s grow together because the more games these guys play together in seasons, the better we’re gonna be.” Snead said.
“It’s just happened that this year’s draft…We thought there was some quality guys and we could maybe address our goal of building a unit of where we can grow them together…If this draft wouldn’t have been that deep (at offensive line) then maybe we would’ve gone about it a different way.”
Posted by: Luke Schnake in National Football League July 31, 2015
The Rams are no strangers to having young squads heading into training camp, often sporting one of the youngest rosters in the NFL for the last few years.
Rams GM Les Snead
Now, it’s the offensive line’s turn to represent the youth.
2015 third round draftees Rob Havenstein (Iowa) and Jamon Brown (Louisville) will most likely start at right tackle and right guard respectively, while the center position will be up for grabs between Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones, and Demetrius Rhaney.
Of those three, Barnes is the most NFL seasoned, with 14 games under his belt with Jones second at seven and Rhaney with none after spending his rookie year on the injured reserve list with a knee injury.
While some would write off the group as too unschooled to succeed, GM Les Snead begs to differ.
He’s seen success with a young line under O-Line coach Paul Boudreau.
“I think (success) is realistic. Obviously you guys have chatted about it, Coach (Boudreau) is really good. He’s done it…I was in Atlanta with him back with Harvey Dahl and Tyson Claybo…Harvey Dahl wasn’t Harvey Dahl yet. He was a college free agent who had bounced around on practice squads.” Snead said.
“(Boudreau) is really good and he’s got his hands full, but I do think what’s interesting about this group is they’re a group that’s played a lot of football…That experience helps. Whether it’s big Rob (Havenstein) with four years starting in the Big Ten, I mean that’s a lot of football and a lot of quality experience.”
As for translating college experience to the NFL in such a short time, Snead says it’s an easy enough solution.
With 14 games under his belt at center, Tim Barnes has the most experience of the three candidates for the position.
“It’s the simple answer of reps, reps, reps.” Snead said. “You’re gonna get it in practice…I think going to practice against the Cowboys will be big because we’ve got four preseason games and that’s a fifth opportunity to work against people you don’t know…I haven’t chatted with Jeff, but I think there’s some plans of playing those guys longer in preseason games.”
The young O-line will have their hands full facing opposing defensive linemen hell-bent on dirtying Nick Foles’ jersey. One of the bigger story lines in training camp will be how the offense performs versus their own seasoned D-line in Earth City.
“I think anybody will tell you that you want practice situations to be more stressful than games.” Snead said. “That’s probably easier said than done, but I do think that lining up and going against that group, when you do get to the games you’ll say, ‘Okay, I’m good here.’”
Running the ball will be a big part of the Rams’ game in 2015 and run blocking is usually considered an easier assignment for young offensive guards and tackles. Snead said this is especially the case in the NFC West and hopes blocking for runners will help the group gel more quickly.
“To be strong at the line of scrimmage, especially in the run game…It wasn’t just, ‘let’s go young,’ it was that we need to get this O-L where it gets continuity and let’s grow together because the more games these guys play together in seasons, the better we’re gonna be.” Snead said.
“It’s just happened that this year’s draft…We thought there was some quality guys and we could maybe address our goal of building a unit of where we can grow them together…If this draft wouldn’t have been that deep (at offensive line) then maybe we would’ve gone about it a different way.”
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