Are you prepared

[socalrams90]

The thing that bugs me is that after Chicago and then the debacle in the SB last year... It seems like 0 adjustments were made. McVay talked about wanting to come back stronger and better from that "learning experience." But here we are, repeating the same thing over and over week after week. I just don't get it.
It's like we have the 4 same Tecmo Bowl playcalls on offense and no desire to mix it up. Idk whats going on, but it sucks.

I don't see any fight in 90% of the guys out there. The only one on offense with any fire is Woods. Everyone else looks like they are just going thru the motions. The body language out there is just awful.

Spot on.
It’s like everyone on the team is comfortable. I feel like we should get rid of players just to bring in some fresh blood. This team just really doesn’t give a damn, especially goff.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

No. I'm not prepared for it. I was ready for a good run. Throw in the way refs control who is winning so many games, and I may be doing what I once thought unthinkable: Quit following the Rams and the entire league. My interest is fading rapidly. The Rams sucking again may put me over the edge.

 

[Karate61]

If McVay is such the QB guru, why can't he fix Goff? Just asking and just saying!

 

[Merlin]

Build around McVay. If the Rams do that they will not slide back into cellar status. He needs to be the heart and soul of the organization. Take care of him and do your best year to year to get him what he tells you he needs.

The GM spot requires a hardline review. Snead will be fired if the Rams cannot sign Ramsey. That will indeed be the biggest blunder in recent Rams history at the GM spot. But even if they do sign him I would not rule out Demoff bringing in a new GM to pair with McVay. There is a need for someone who has a better long term vision vice a used car salesman approach of going for it every season. All those picks that were traded might have cost us a longer championship window. Lastly part of the reason we sucked for so long was a lack of a GM who knew what he was doing so by all means go get someone who is an up and comer but make sure he knows who the heart of the org is, i.e. I would allow zero infighting from that chair.

Re: Kromer someone is going to take the fall for the OL failing the dice roll. But also because he's failed as run game coordinator too. That plus Callahan being available means there's a 90% chance Bill Callahan is our next OL and run game coordinator. It's an obvious thing for us to expect. Also I expect Whitworth to join our staff because he loves the game and camaraderie still but the end is nigh.

Re: Waldron the fact is our passing game even outside of all the protection problems has been stale and defenses are anticipating what we're doing. He lacks the edge in gameplanning that we have had since McVay came aboard. A change will be made here IMO. If it's not Gruden (who is likely albeit not as likely as Callahan) it will be someone else with Shane going back to TE duties. It's pretty clear that Waldron was not ready for those responsibilities.

Whoever has been responsible for coaching Goff on the protections is going to get fired. Accountability has to be upheld. And I'm guessing Zac Robinson will be looking for work, his first season as our QB coach has been an unmitigated disaster.

So just on the offensive side of the ball I expect change at passing game coordinator (if Gruden is hired it becomes OC), run game coordinator & OL coach, and QB coach. Axe gonna fall this offseason dudes. We're talking a ton of staff changes.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

This season is somehow shaking off the last of the St Louis Ram fan contingent.

It’s interesting to see that some of you guys — despite knowing that every game only one team can win and another has to lose — are so disgruntled this year. I mean this fact is well known and knowing this you’ve been a fan of the Rams nonetheless through thick and thin.

But now something has changed?
What is it?

I mean why are some ready to jump ship on a competitive team at 6-5. Not a losing record folks. But why?

I think it’s cause how some have identified with this team aside from wins and loses is gone. The team is in LA and no longer in St Louis. It was fine for that first year and then the past two seasons with the playoffs and the NCF Championship and Super Bowl appearance, but without those wins to keep you in it, there is nothing here to keep you on board.

Teams will win and lose.
We all know this
And we all know this narrative about McVay being washed up or our players not being worth money is just the surface bullshit to justify the fact you no longer identify with the team culturally

So go.
Stop watching the Rams.
Just get in line with The Hammer, Coach O, DCH and all the others who have jumped ship.

We will miss you for a bit. Then we will forget. Then we will be reminded when you pop back in a future date when we are kicking ass again.

Farewell my former Ram friends. The door won’t hit you on the way out cause they are always open for you.

GO RAMS
RAMS FOREVER

 

[PhillyRam]

ya know that sounds easy just develop the youth draft dl, ol, wr and fb. only problem is that according to those supporting the ramsey trade is even if you have 1st round picks it is still a crap shoot. plus teams with fewer holes and more resourses are doing the samething.
ya know some of us pesssimists need some kind of hope so keep up the good vibes and maybe we can find a place in the middle

First off, you can get a FB late, you just have to decide to use them.

I also think you will see them trade a guy like Roby-Coleman to clear $4M and Long becomes the nickel.

Plus, they will likely move around and add picks and maybe trade another vet like Everett since they likely can't keep him in 21'.

So you could have a draft like this:

2. DT
3. C
3. DE (Comp pick)
4. WR (speed guy)
4. TE (Roby-Coleman trade)
6. FB
7. LB

And in FA you can probably add a couple of stop gap guys. Maybe a vet OT or C to provide some vet leadership.

 

[PhillyRam]

The thing that bugs me is that after Chicago and then the debacle in the SB last year... It seems like 0 adjustments were made. McVay talked about wanting to come back stronger and better from that "learning experience." But here we are, repeating the same thing over and over week after week. I just don't get it.
It's like we have the 4 same Tecmo Bowl playcalls on offense and no desire to mix it up. Idk whats going on, but it sucks.

I don't see any fight in 90% of the guys out there. The only one on offense with any fire is Woods. Everyone else looks like they are just going thru the motions. The body language out there is just awful.

Agree. I think the biggest issue right now is McVay needs to adjust. He needs to be able to play a more physical brand of football while maintaining the quick strike ability.

Meld what we saw against Dallas last year with what they consistently try to do.

You do that and all will be well as the D and Goff will benefit from it.

That may mean stop with the country club type practices and get a little more hard-nosed about practice and hitting in practice etc..

 

[PhillyRam]

If McVay is such the QB guru, why can't he fix Goff? Just asking and just saying!

He needs to fix the running game. If he does that he also fixes Goff.

 

[Karate61]

He needs to fix the running game. If he does that he also fixes Goff.

I think we've gone from 1st to last in the use of play-action because of the poor running game.

 

[Ram65]

I hope Snead and McVay don't continue taking short cuts. Not a fan of the Ramsey trade. I'm looking at 2021 for the Rams to get back to SB contenders. If they can get going in 2020 that would be great but, it's more important to get things ready for the long haul.

No matter how you slice it going back into a Rams football funk would be very difficult to handle. Will watch and be here whatever happens.

 

[OldSchool]

Ready for more and more over reaction and drama episodes. Actually maybe I'm not.

 

[Mister Sin]

This season is somehow shaking off the last of the St Louis Ram fan contingent.

It’s interesting to see that some of you guys — despite knowing that every game only one team can win and another has to lose — are so disgruntled this year. I mean this fact is well known and knowing this you’ve been a fan of the Rams nonetheless through thick and thin.

But now something has changed?
What is it?

I mean why are some ready to jump ship on a competitive team at 6-5. Not a losing record folks. But why?

I think it’s cause how some have identified with this team aside from wins and loses is gone. The team is in LA and no longer in St Louis. It was fine for that first year and then the past two seasons with the playoffs and the NCF Championship and Super Bowl appearance, but without those wins to keep you in it, there is nothing here to keep you on board.

Teams will win and lose.
We all know this
And we all know this narrative about McVay being washed up or our players not being worth money is just the surface bullshit to justify the fact you no longer identify with the team culturally

So go.
Stop watching the Rams.
Just get in line with The Hammer, Coach O, DCH and all the others who have jumped ship.

We will miss you for a bit. Then we will forget. Then we will be reminded when you pop back in a future date when we are kicking ass again.

Farewell my former Ram friends. The door won’t hit you on the way out cause they are always open for you.

GO RAMS
RAMS FOREVER

I’ve read your posts here for years and can’t think of a single time that you went over a line. I think this may be it for me. Calling out the St.Louis guys? Really? We know how this always goes. Those were some great fucking posters you name dropped there too. I’m not sure where you live, but if it’s not near St.Louis or LA, you don’t understand. Guys like CoachO went to every single training camp, took amazing notes and didn’t miss a game. That’s hard to lose. Talking about us as if we will all finally be gone....that’s dirty as fuck. (Damnit that just pissed me off.)

Yes I’m a St.Louis guy. But I’ve alway been a Rams guy. I can’t stand Stan, but I love this team. This thread was not about how things are on fire...at least, it was not my intention. I was simply asking, if we go that way, are you prepared. I don’t know how well prepared I am.

Now, let’s talk football. Goff is an issue and needs to go ASAP as soon as we can make the money work, he’s out.

Gurley—fuck I don’t know what to think.

Our TE’s suck. Just because one of them has a big catch here or there means shit. I want a Greg Olsen type here.

Our Line is terrible. I still like Rob on the right. Witts gone. And all the interior sucks. Noteboom isn’t the answer either. This is what the team needs the most! We need a good, not great o line that we can lock up for years and develop.

Switching to a 4-3 again would help our defense. Brockers needs to be in the middle. Him an AD with guys rushing on the outside to be named later...but I like Fox.

Littleton is a great player but idk about that scheme. I don’t know that a current LB on this team is a fit. And our secondary...bye Weddle. Rapp and Johnson on the back end....find a way to sign Ramsey(they fucking better figure this out) and let Robey-Coleman go for financial reasons...I would hate to see it.


We have potential. But with contracts like Goff, Gurley and AD...who else can we get? Ramsey is gonna want 20/year. Are any of the other guys willing to take a pay cut?

Guess the one good thing about no 1st rounders is that our draft will be cheaper and locked down for years. They need to hit on every pick the next couple season.


Go Rams!

 

[Tano]

Remember - in 2007 - Georgia who knew absolutely nothing about football and was cheap as heck was the owner. She ruined this team again and again.

She got lucky a few times but overall her record as owner stunk up the joint.

Who would have thunk that a grocery clerk would become one of the greatest Ram QBs of all time over a 3 year period.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

I’ve read your posts here for years and can’t think of a single time that you went over a line. I think this may be it for me. Calling out the St.Louis guys? Really? We know how this always goes.

Yes I’m a St.Louis guy. But I’ve alway been a Rams guy. I can’t stand Stan, but I love this team. This thread was not about how things are on fire...at least, it was not my intention. I was simply asking, if we go that way, are you prepared. I don’t know how well prepared I am.

Now, let’s talk football. Goff is an issue and needs to go ASAP as soon as we can make the money work, he’s out.

Gurley—fuck I don’t know what to think.

Our TE’s suck. Just because one of them has a big catch here or there means shit. I want a Greg Olsen type here.

Our Line is terrible. I still like Rob on the right. Witts gone. And all the interior sucks. Noteboom isn’t the answer either. This is what the team needs the most! We need a good, not great o line that we can lock up for years and develop.

Switching to a 4-3 again would help our defense. Brockers needs to be in the middle. Him an AD with guys rushing on the outside to be named later...but I like Fox.

Littleton is a great player but idk about that scheme. I don’t know that a current LB on this team is a fit. And our secondary...bye Weddle. Rapp and Johnson on the back end....find a way to sign Ramsey(they fucking better figure this out) and let Robey-Coleman go for financial reasons...I would hate to see it.


We have potential. But with contracts like Goff, Gurley and AD...who else can we get? Ramsey is gonna want 20/year. Are any of the other guys willing To be cut?

Guess the one good thing about no 1st rounders is that our draft will be cheaper and locked down for years. They need to hit on every pick the next couple season.


Go Rams!

Yeah we had beers in St Louis together before the game. I know you are a Ram’s fan. And I wasn’t directing this to you specifically, but I don’t think I am wrong. Wins and losses are part of the game and we all understand that. It’s gotta be something deeper that attaches fans to a team that allows them to endure the possibility of losing week in and week out and still remain loyal. I suggest that is cultural. Just look at fans of soccer. A Celtic fan and a Ranger fan have clearly defined cultural lines drawn. You won’t find a Celtic fan ever considering bailing on the team for any reason - especially losing. But in the NFL teams have no such loyalty to cities and places. The Rams abandoned the fan base in St Louis and I think that it has to have an impact here. Why else would we have a discussion on whether or not a hypothetical losing streak would be a problem.

First of we are not at the dawn of a ten year losing skid. And if we were who cares?

The only thing that i can think of that would make a fan bail on the team would be that they no longer culturally identify with the team — and no matter how thin that may be in American sports and specifically the NFL I think it has to be the main factor in someone giving up on the colors.

 

[EastRam]

Yeah we had beers in St Louis together before the game. I know you are a Ram’s fan. And I wasn’t directing this to you specifically, but I don’t think I am wrong. Wins and losses are part of the game and we all understand that. It’s gotta be something deeper that attaches fans to a team that allows them to endure the possibility of losing week in and week out and still remain loyal. I suggest that is cultural. Just look at fans of soccer. A Celtic fan and a Ranger fan have clearly defined cultural lines drawn. You won’t find a Celtic fan ever considering bailing on the team for any reason - especially losing. But in the NFL teams have no such loyalty to cities and places. The Rams abandoned the fan base in St Louis and I think that it has to have an impact here. Why else would we have a discussion on whether or not a hypothetical losing streak would be a problem.

First of we are not at the dawn of a ten year losing skid. And if we were who cares?

The only thing that i can think of that would make a fan bail on the team would be that they no longer culturally identify with the team — and no matter how thin that may be in American sports and specifically the NFL I think it has to be the main factor in someone giving up on the colors.

I can understand what you are saying “culturally”.

Before the Rams left LA, I was seeing the Rams as “soft” and was losing interest.

When they moved to St. Louis it rekindled my Rams Passion. When they moved back to LA it took me a year or so to fully buy in.

Now their current direction I see as “soft” again.

If they continue to be ummm shitty. Then sure, this 50 year fans interest will surely wane but not based on where I live or where they play.

 

[Karate61]

First of we are not at the dawn of a ten year losing skid. And if we were who cares

You play to win the game!

 

[Dieter the Brock]

You play to win the game!

Yes you do play the game to win
Thank God we are just fans and can watch no matter what the result

 

[Karate61]

Yes you do play the game to win
Thank God we are just fans and can watch no matter what the result

Are you saying fans don't count? There'd be no game without fans...I think.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

Are you saying fans don't count? There'd be no game without fans...I think.

I am only suggesting fans and players are different.

Lets look at Goff. Lifelong 49er fan. Now a Ram. He is getting paid to be a Ram. But his roots are with that satanic majesty Montana. He is paid to perform and help the team win. Look at my boy Marcus Peters. The majority of fans on this board didn’t like the guy and like him even less cause of his dance last week. He was traded cause he wasn’t helping us win. So just with these two examples - players are paid to win.

Fans normally remain loyal to the colors. And it’s the fan who supports the team financially. Despite ownership, bad play, good play, great owners, etc. Fans tend to identify with their local team or the team they liked when they were young cause of a host of reasons - their helmet, their family’s team affiliation etc. And I am speaking as a die hard fan that will never stop rooting for the Rams. I understand we are not gonna win every game. And I surely get pissed after repetitive losing seasons and mismanagement. All I want to see is a team fight hard win or lose for the colors. And of course fans are important - look at how fans pushed out Unai Emery by not showing up to the matches. We do have power. But ultimately we remain loyal knowing we can’t always be champions. And that is different from players who’s primary consideration is financial. Otherwise Goff would have refused to sign for the 49ers arch rival.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

I can understand what you are saying “culturally”.

Before the Rams left LA, I was seeing the Rams as “soft” and was losing interest.

When they moved to St. Louis it rekindled my Rams Passion. When they moved back to LA it took me a year or so to fully buy in.

Now their current direction I see as “soft” again.

If they continue to be ummm shitty. Then sure, this 50 year fans interest will surely wane but not based on where I live or where they play.

I appreciate what you are saying here.
My thoughts are about trying to understand why we are getting threads like these when we all know we are not always gonna win — and especially when it’s not even a losing season (-and it may very well turn out to be the case - and on the flip side we may make the playoffs too)
Am I annoyed by all the team bashing and end of the world dramatics? Yes.
Could I be wrong about the impact on jilted fans - possibly yes.
Just trying to work through what’s happening on this board.