Alaric Jackson Looks Like Real Deal

[fanotodd]

I absolutely would re-sign Dotson.. draft a tackle in 2nd or 3rd.. and another guard later.

But, again… Jackson isn’t a problem, is he?

No he is not…performance-wise. Availability is the problem. Between Jackson and Noteboom, the Rams have one solid player. They both can and have played multiple positions, making them invaluable. At least one of them has been down, while the other has been on the field all season. If both were out, that would be a major problem.

I’m totally on board with drafting a LT. Think of the depth this OL would then have with Jackson and Noteboom.

 

[TexasRam]

Jackson is still raw in many areas and hopefully he can develop on the fly. His footwork is inconsistent as is his hand play. He's strong but there are times he lacks the quickness to adjust to a rusher trying to get around him. He still has issues with consistently playing with leverage.

As an OT Noteboom is better technique wise than Jackson. There was no way to foresee all the injuries that have hit him. Learning a new position on the fly at RG he played well. Don't listen to those PFF hacks who don't know what they are looking at. All their experience has probably been on Madden. There was a very noticeable drop off when Noteboom went out and Anchrum came in. So much so they sent a still injured Noteboom back out to take over for a healthy Anchrum. So he hasn't played as badly as most here contend.

When he can play I think Joe is their swing OT/OG. There has to be someone better than Anchrum on the roster as a backup OG. Thomas sucked at OT but he played well at OG. There are times Anchrum looks lost out there.

Yea I agree. With Notebooms dead money hit it makes sense to keep him as a swing OT and or G. 6th man so to speak.

That spot is so important and sometimes can be the difference in the outcome of a game. Look what happened when Anchrum came in or when Mcclendon came in for big Rob for a snap.

Sounds weird but that experienced backup lineman has major value. Especially if they can play LT, which Boom can. Not only to keep the offense humming, but to keep your QB from getting injured.

 

[Merlin]

Key is there has to be a LT on the board that they like when we pick. But assuming that is the case it would be my priority because it helps the interior as well.

Also I would get a C if possible too. Though I will admit Shelton has looked good. But a good young pivot behind him would be real nice and those two moves would give us a high quality line with legit depth. Imagine what McVay would do with that.

 

[Memento]

Key is there has to be a LT on the board that they like when we pick. But assuming that is the case it would be my priority because it helps the interior as well.

Also I would get a C if possible too. Though I will admit Shelton has looked good. But a good young pivot behind him would be real nice and those two moves would give us a high quality line with legit depth. Imagine what McVay would do with that.

Not a very good center class. Sedrick Van Pran Granger is the only blue chip one. Bryce Foster is a big solid run-blocker, but his pass-blocking sucks.

Tackles and guards are deep. My choice is Cooper Beebe (late second or early third). He's playing LT for K-State, but he's only going to be a guard at the next level. I love his tape more than I do a lot of the other top tackles.

 

[oldnotdead]

Alaric Jackson's technique sucks. The more I watch him the more I do not see a franchise LT. His technique sucks and he gets beaten more than most realize. If Noteboom is 100% I'd rather see him at LT for the remainder of the season for one last look to make sure neither of these guys is their franchise LT. I can see them drafting a LT in the second round. Yeah yeah I hear people saying it's gotta be in the first round. But first round LTs bust a lot. There are good OL to be had in the second round just like Avila. Eleven of the 32 starting left tackles weren't first round picks. Just to give perspective. First round LTs bust as much as 2nd and third rounders but it hurts more. OL players have a high bust rate which is why IMO why risk a premium first round pick? They need a QB more next draft with that first round pick.

David Bakhtiari 4th round
Orlando Brown 3rd round
Terron Armstead 3rd round
Braden Smith 2nd round
Morgan Moses 3rd round
Taylor Moton 2nd round
Bernhard Raimann 3rd round
Terence Steele UDFA
Dion Dawkins 2nd round
Charles Leno 7th round
Jermaine Eluemunor 5th round

 

[Ram Ts]

Now do the 1st round QB busts. I think that hurts more.

 

[Merlin]

I suspect OT bust rates are among the best in round one for one reason: they are drafted as shots at LT but can sometimes end up being RT. So it isn't always a total loss.

Modern collegiate offenses definitely have hurt the position, but you gotta get the best ones up high. There is a basic human size supply and demand issue to deal with here.

 

[Kupped]

I wouldn’t rather have Noteboom… but if the season ended today, I’d be drafting a LT in 1st or 2nd. I’d probably trade down first and keep Jackson around until rookie got up to speed.

 

[So Ram]

No he is not…performance-wise. Availability is the problem. Between Jackson and Noteboom, the Rams have one solid player. They both can and have played multiple positions, making them invaluable. At least one of them has been down, while the other has been on the field all season. If both were out, that would be a major problem.

I’m totally on board with drafting a LT. Think of the depth this OL would then have with Jackson and Noteboom.

HELLO - there was this Monday Night football game in which The Rams should have won ?

WTF - was Mcvay & Wendle thinking? That still blows me away & to think The Rams should have a better record if the Coaching has been better.

Special Teams coach is Horrible & lost a game or 2 for The Rams as well.

That Thomas playing LT was a JOKE! A Bad JOKE at that.Why Noteboom who we all know isn’t a guard wasn’t out at LT when Alaric Jackson got hurt was a bad decision.I don’t recall if The Rams were a afraid to put Dotson at RG ahead of him.

Still blows my mind you put your QB at that big of a risk on Monday Night.IMO it led to a few extra losses.

 

[TexasRam]

Alaric Jackson's technique sucks. The more I watch him the more I do not see a franchise LT. His technique sucks and he gets beaten more than most realize. If Noteboom is 100% I'd rather see him at LT for the remainder of the season for one last look to make sure neither of these guys is their franchise LT. I can see them drafting a LT in the second round. Yeah yeah I hear people saying it's gotta be in the first round. But first round LTs bust a lot. There are good OL to be had in the second round just like Avila. Eleven of the 32 starting left tackles weren't first round picks. Just to give perspective. First round LTs bust as much as 2nd and third rounders but it hurts more. OL players have a high bust rate which is why IMO why risk a premium first round pick? They need a QB more next draft with that first round pick.

David Bakhtiari 4th round
Orlando Brown 3rd round
Terron Armstead 3rd round
Braden Smith 2nd round
Morgan Moses 3rd round
Taylor Moton 2nd round
Bernhard Raimann 3rd round
Terence Steele UDFA
Dion Dawkins 2nd round
Charles Leno 7th round
Jermaine Eluemunor 5th round

Yea, I think Noteboom is a better pass blocker at LT but Jackson is a better run blocker.

I would look at the draft and get the LT our scouts believes in, despite round..personally.

If I need to move up I go get him.

 

[Londoner]

If I need to move up I go get him.

Hypothetically, then: if the two QB and Harrison are the first three picks, what do we give up to move up to 4 to grab our guy?

 

[TexasRam]

Hypothetically, then: if the two QB and Harrison are the first three picks, what do we give up to move up to 4 to grab our guy?

Personally I haven’t done any scouting of the top LTs so not sure how they are projecting as pros.

But if we are talking an elite safe prospect that projects to be a pro bowl level type then I invest.

If it’s like a swap of first rounders and a 2025 1st and maybe a 2024 3rd for example I would consider it.

Donald and Kupp have a 2024 run in them but who knows how much more.

 

[Allen2McVay]

There are good OL to be had in the second round just like Avila.

Completely Agree ...
Rob Havenstein is another Terrific example ... nine-year veteran, 125 games played, 125 career starts.

Eleven of the 32 starting left tackles weren't first round picks.

I will trust you on this but that would mean Two Thirds of the starting LTs were First Round Draft Choices.
That's a Very High Percentage.
Other than starting-QBs, do you think there's another position with as high a percentage of 1st Rounders?

David Bakhtiari 4th round
Orlando Brown 3rd round
Terron Armstead 3rd round
Braden Smith 2nd round
Morgan Moses 3rd round
Taylor Moton 2nd round
Bernhard Raimann 3rd round
Terence Steele UDFA
Dion Dawkins 2nd round
Charles Leno 7th round
Jermaine Eluemunor 5th round

Not sure where you were going with this list.

Your post is mostly about Left Tackles but half these guys are mostly career Right Tackles.

There are Eleven OTs listed but you probably weren't going for the above referenced '11 starting LTs' because only about half are currently starting at Left Tackle.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Hypothetically, then: if the two QB and Harrison are the first three picks, what do we give up to move up to 4 to grab our guy?

Probably a lot ... Too Much.

Someone posted the Rams are currently at #14 to draft. Moving-up from 14-to-4 could require the Rams' #14 and their second round pick, plus next year's first round pick ... maybe more if there's a top-tier-QB prospect that some teams crave.

 

[Allen2McVay]

One comment about Left Tackle as a 1st round option for the Rams ... Which I think it is.

Some of the best LTs struggle in their rookie seasons. Some even play other positions as rookies.

It's often a Plug-and-Play Position but NOT often a Plug-and-Play AT A HIGH LEVEL position.

It's super-early but there appears to be quality talent and some depth at LT in the 2024 Draft, making it a position the Rams could definitely consider. Perhaps they find a future All Pro LT. However, it's unlikely that player performs at an All Pro Level as a rookie.

 

[Loyal]

One comment about Left Tackle as a 1st round option for the Rams ... Which I think it is.

Some of the best LTs struggle in their rookie seasons. Some even play other positions as rookies.

It's often a Plug-and-Play Position but NOT often a Plug-and-Play AT A HIGH LEVEL position.

It's super-early but there appears to be quality talent and some depth at LT in the 2024 Draft, making it a position the Rams could definitely consider. Perhaps they find a future All Pro LT. However, it's unlikely that player performs at an All Pro Level as a rookie.

Just find the next Orlando Pace. Easy-Peasey

 

[Allen2McVay]

Just find the next Orlando Pace. Easy-Peasey

When you mentioned Pace, and given my earlier post about the High-current cost of moving-up for a QB.
I looked-up the Rams' 1997 trade with the Jets to move-up for Orlando Pace.

The Rams traded the 6th overall to go to #1; and only needed to surrender a 3rd (67th), 4th (102nd) and 7th.

Now, there was no elite Quarterback prospect ... Jim Druckenmiller was the first QB taken at #26 overall.

Amazingly, the Jets traded-down again form 6th to 8th for an extra fourth round pick; and, in the process, the BRILLIANT Jets lost out on a second future Hall of Fame Offensive Left Tackle ... Walter Jones went 8th overall!

The Jets did draft a quality player in LB James Farrior who had an excellent 15-year career. However, the final ten years of that career were with the Pittsburgh Steelers!

The Architect of those BRILLIANT Jets' moves ... Bill Parcells.

 

[Londoner]

Just find the next Orlando Pace. Easy-Peasey

Olu Fashanu is the best pass protector in this draft, but needs work on his run blocking. It's asking a lot for anyone to reach Big O's level, but Fashanu is the closest there is in this class.

 

[Loyal]

When you mentioned Pace, and given my earlier post about the High-current cost of moving-up for a QB.
I looked-up the Rams' 1997 trade with the Jets to move-up for Orlando Pace.

The Rams traded the 6th overall to go to #1; and only needed to surrender a 3rd (67th), 4th (102nd) and 7th.

Now, there was no elite Quarterback prospect ... Jim Druckenmiller was the first QB taken at #26 overall.

Amazingly, the Jets traded-down again form 6th to 8th for an extra fourth round pick; and, in the process, the BRILLIANT Jets lost out on a second future Hall of Fame Offensive Left Tackle ... Walter Jones went 8th overall!

The Jets did draft a quality player in LB James Farrior who had an excellent 15-year career. However, the final ten years of that career were with the Pittsburgh Steelers!

The Architect of those BRILLIANT Jets' moves ... Bill Parcells.

You're just a Jets, Giants and Parcell's hater! Don't let @den-the-coach hear your hate!

 

[den-the-coach]

Amazingly, the Jets traded-down again form 6th to 8th for an extra fourth round pick; and, in the process, the BRILLIANT Jets lost out on a second future Hall of Fame Offensive Left Tackle ... Walter Jones went 8th overall!

The Jets did draft a quality player in LB James Farrior who had an excellent 15-year career. However, the final ten years of that career were with the Pittsburgh Steelers!

The Architect of those BRILLIANT Jets' moves ... Bill Parcells.

The Architect of the move up to draft Orlando Pace -- Richard "Dick" Albert Vermeil