Alaric Jackson Looks Like Real Deal

[Kupped]

They restructured him last year. Boom reminds me of Saffold, who was often injured too. Both guys are versatile on the line and give continuity too the OLine.

My thing is this...the Rams can be right back contending next year and you want an O'Line that is seasoned and savvy, with depth. That's why I'm not for shedding Boom.

I think they can again? It just pushes money forward.

 

[fanotodd]

What if Jackson keeps improving through the end of the season?

You still draft a LT. He becomes Noteboom 2.0 at the very least—waiting to take the reins as the starting LT in 2025 if Jackson prices himself off of the roster.

Another scenario is Jackson becomes the all purpose depth guy and replaces Noteboom while the Rams start the new franchise LT.
-or-

Draft a LT
Re-sign Dotson
Re-work Noteboom.

Rookie at LT, Avila, Shelton (or rookie/FA) at Center, Dotson at RG, Havs at RT.
…and you still have Jackson and Noteboom.

Now THATS an OL with quality depth.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

They restructured him last year. Boom reminds me of Saffold, who was often injured too. Both guys are versatile on the line and give continuity too the OLine.

My thing is this...the Rams can be right back contending next year and you want an O'Line that is seasoned and savvy, with depth. That's why I'm not for shedding Boom.

Once Saffold settled in at guard he played very well for the Rams. I put him a few levels ahead of Joe.

 

[Kupped]

You still draft a LT. He becomes Noteboom 2.0 at the very least—waiting to take the reins as the starting LT in 2025 if Jackson prices himself off of the roster.

Another scenario is Jackson becomes the all purpose depth guy and replaces Noteboom while the Rams start the new franchise LT.
-or-

Draft a LT
Re-sign Dotson
Re-work Noteboom.

Rookie at LT, Avila, Shelton (or rookie/FA) at Center, Dotson at RG, Havs at RT.
…and you still have Jackson and Noteboom.

Now THATS an OL with quality depth.

I like it.
Gonna be pricey.. an article I just read projecting FA contracts predicted Dotson could get 69 million.
But.. with Stafford getting older… I think they gotta protect him.

 

[Merlin]

Well as far as cap resources go Hav is a bargain. So if we cut Boom to recoup cap space there it would be appropriate to sign a FA OL.

I just worry about the fact Dotson got his shit together in a contract season. But I've come around on him. If we sign him it'll be like it was with Boom, where I get it. And the line will actually, well on paper at least, be ready for a fast start next season instead of spending weeks getting their shit together and figuring out who the RG is.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Once Saffold settled in at guard he played very well for the Rams. I put him a few levels ahead of Joe.

Didn't he have a shoulder issue that was finally fixed too?

 

[oldnotdead]

So will the Rams pay Dotson $17M/yr? I'm not so sure they will. If they the Rams think as much of Havenstein as most board members think they do then why are they only going to pay him $14.5M at the end of this career? I think they will offer Dotson maybe $8-10M/ yr but IMO that would be stretching it for them for a RG.

Don't believe me? Look at what they pay their OL through the years. Even Whitworth probably didn't break $11M/yr. The Rams liked Corbett and he walked when he was offered $11/yr as a RG. I think they will pay Noteboom $4-5M to play RG or start McClendon at RG which is why they drafted him IMO.

Dotson's projected worth is projected between $15-$18M / yr. If they keep him that would be great, but I'm not holding my breath. Look at the Ram history of one year rentals.

 

[So Ram]

So will the Rams pay Dotson $17M/yr? I'm not so sure they will. If they the Rams think as much of Havenstein as most board members think they do then why are they only going to pay him $14.5M at the end of this career? I think they will offer Dotson maybe $8-10M/ yr but IMO that would be stretching it for them for a RG.

Don't believe me? Look at what they pay their OL through the years. Even Whitworth probably didn't break $11M/yr. The Rams liked Corbett and he walked when he was offered $11/yr as a RG. I think they will pay Noteboom $4-5M to play RG or start McClendon at RG which is why they drafted him IMO.

Dotson's projected worth is projected between $15-$18M / yr. If they keep him that would be great, but I'm not holding my breath. Look at the Ram history of one year rentals.

Either way a 3rd rd comp pick vs. a year of service & a 5th rd. Pick. It’s still the 2023 season & looking ahead isn’t going to help.

What about Zach Thomas & his future as a Ram ? Could Steve Avila be moved over to the RG spot? Just a thought.

I don’t see why not if your looking at the future.We know Thomas can’t play LT & why Noteboom wasn’t the backup LT was beyond me.The Rams win that Cinncy game .

 

[So Ram]

Didn't he have a shoulder issue that was finally fixed too?

Saffold was just injury prone.He was amazingly strong.I wonder how many inches his arms were ?
When he was next to Whitworth it totally changed his game.There’s something to be said about Mentoring.

It’s not the time to worry about next season.Who knows? A L.Bruss might actually turn into a NFL starting guard.He is way ahead of what he was 2 years ago.

 

[TexasRam]

So will the Rams pay Dotson $17M/yr? I'm not so sure they will. If they the Rams think as much of Havenstein as most board members think they do then why are they only going to pay him $14.5M at the end of this career? I think they will offer Dotson maybe $8-10M/ yr but IMO that would be stretching it for them for a RG.

Don't believe me? Look at what they pay their OL through the years. Even Whitworth probably didn't break $11M/yr. The Rams liked Corbett and he walked when he was offered $11/yr as a RG. I think they will pay Noteboom $4-5M to play RG or start McClendon at RG which is why they drafted him IMO.

Dotson's projected worth is projected between $15-$18M / yr. If they keep him that would be great, but I'm not holding my breath. Look at the Ram history of one year rentals.

1. I think Mcvay may have learned his lesson with deprioritizing the Oline in the past.

2. We will be in a different situation with the cap in 2024 then in the past.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Just a quick point regarding Rodger Saffold's injury issues.

In the prior 7 years (2016-2022), Saffold missed just six games, starting 108 out of a possible 114 games.

Saffold's injury issues were entirely in his first six seasons, when he missed 28 games.

 

[den-the-coach]

Just a quick point regarding Rodger Saffold's injury issues.

In the prior 7 years (2016-2022), Saffold missed just six games, starting 108 out of a possible 114 games.

Saffold's injury issues were entirely in his first six seasons, when he missed 28 games.

Ironically, they drafted Saffold out of Indiana because they whiffed on Jason Smith. Billy Devaney talked a good game, but just could not deliver.

 

[Psycho_X]

If they the Rams think as much of Havenstein as most board members think they do then why are they only going to pay him $14.5M at the end of this career?

Huh? This doesn't even make sense. Hav's contract is inline with his play. He's a good but not top vet RT. His pay reflects what he is but you're saying since they don't want to cut him they are under paying him now?

Even Whitworth probably didn't break $11M/yr. The Rams liked Corbett and he walked when he was offered $11/yr as a RG. I think they will pay Noteboom $4-5M to play RG or start McClendon at RG which is why they drafted him IMO.

Whitworth did break $11mil a couple years but what was paid to a player 5 years ago is irrelevant today. Also, you're predicting they are going to cut Noteboom and then some how he'll resign with us to play RG for $4-5 mil? Because he's got another year on his contract with us. Plus, Boom has been a terrible guard. McClendon who knows.

Them resigning Dotson isn't as far fetched as in the past due to us actually having cap room again this offseason. I'm not saying they will because some team might come in with a ridiculous offer they wouldn't want to match but I don't see any reason they wouldn't make a real push to get him back.

Either way a 3rd rd comp pick vs. a year of service & a 5th rd. Pick.

If you're talking about Dotson we will likely be signing several big free agents this offseason which would offset any contract Dotson would get somewhere else so the comp pick formula is probably not likely to net us much of anything from the upcoming offseason.

 

[Allen2McVay]

If they the Rams think as much of Havenstein as most board members think they do then why are they only going to pay him $14.5M at the end of this career?

At least some of the Forum-members' support for Rob Havenstein has been in response to your frequent statements that the Rams WOULD (not should) move on from Havenstein after the current season.

I think you have made that claim every year for five consecutive years. I believe it started in 2018 when you stated the Rams WOULD move on from Havenstein in 2019. Five years!

Sometimes, you made these statements within months of Havenstein signing an extension or re-structuring.

Eventually, Havenstein will no longer be with the Rams. Please DON'T post 'I told you so'.

 

[Kupped]

If the Rams are going big.. keeping Dotson just makes sense.
Again.. they can open up a shit ton of money this offseason.

What’s more… I think they plan to maximize FA… *this* offseason. I think that’s why they didn’t go after Chase Young or Montez Sweat.
They want to keep their picks.. hopefully draft another great class and throw a couple of difference makers in top of that.

 

[Merlin]

If the Rams can't get out from under Boom by cutting him or extending him to reduce his cap hit, then I think Dotson leaves in FA. Because FA needs to be used to add some balance to the roster.

If they can reduce Boom's cap hit or get rid of it then Dotson makes sense because you can lock him up before FA and then go get the best defensive option that is out there in the window. But if they stand pat on Boom with his cap hit plus Havenstein's cap hit I doubt they add another one to that position group.

 

[dieterbrock]

On Noteboom, they cant re-structure his deal again, as there is only 1 year left.
What they could do is either sign him to an extension, or cut him and offer him a new deal.
I say just cut bait, save 5 million and be done with his dead cap

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

1. I think Mcvay may have learned his lesson with deprioritizing the Oline in the past.

I certainly hope so. It seems to have, but it has also coincided with a change in run-game philosophy from what I hear among x and o's people.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Huh? This doesn't even make sense. Hav's contract is inline with his play. He's a good but not top vet RT. His pay reflects what he is but you're saying since they don't want to cut him they are under paying him now?

Whitworth did break $11mil a couple years but what was paid to a player 5 years ago is irrelevant today. Also, you're predicting they are going to cut Noteboom and then some how he'll resign with us to play RG for $4-5 mil? Because he's got another year on his contract with us. Plus, Boom has been a terrible guard. McClendon who knows.

Them resigning Dotson isn't as far fetched as in the past due to us actually having cap room again this offseason. I'm not saying they will because some team might come in with a ridiculous offer they wouldn't want to match but I don't see any reason they wouldn't make a real push to get him back.

If you're talking about Dotson we will likely be signing several big free agents this offseason which would offset any contract Dotson would get somewhere else so the comp pick formula is probably not likely to net us much of anything from the upcoming offseason.

Preach.

 

[So Ram]

Huh? This doesn't even make sense. Hav's contract is inline with his play. He's a good but not top vet RT. His pay reflects what he is but you're saying since they don't want to cut him they are under paying him now?

Whitworth did break $11mil a couple years but what was paid to a player 5 years ago is irrelevant today. Also, you're predicting they are going to cut Noteboom and then some how he'll resign with us to play RG for $4-5 mil? Because he's got another year on his contract with us. Plus, Boom has been a terrible guard. McClendon who knows.

Them resigning Dotson isn't as far fetched as in the past due to us actually having cap room again this offseason. I'm not saying they will because some team might come in with a ridiculous offer they wouldn't want to match but I don't see any reason they wouldn't make a real push to get him back.

If you're talking about Dotson we will likely be signing several big free agents this offseason which would offset any contract Dotson would get somewhere else so the comp pick formula is probably not likely to net us much of anything from the upcoming offseason.

I don’t even know what any of this is going to look like in 2 months.As far as we know The Rams could win the Super Bowl?
They’ve had some tough losses that has set The Rams back.