Alaric Jackson Looks Like Real Deal

[Merlin]

When I read comments here about dumping Noteboom, I feel the frustration of hoping he could become a reliable starter after all of these years. Remember the "grooming" he supposedly received behind Big Whit? If memory serves, it seemed that Boom would be the starting LT before Whitworth displaced him. Injuries and so-so play at tackle and guard teased us with the possibilities. He received a large contract for reasons that never made sense to me. Now he's only serviceable as a back up, even when McVay tried so hard to make him the starting RG (Thank heaven for Dotson). I was like OND is by wanting to dump Big Rob every year, in regard for Noteboom.

Now, I am just ready to move on by drafting quality Oline in 2024.

You've always been Boom's sea daddy.

For our cap types what are we looking at with an exit strategy for Boom. I.e. how does it look after this season.

Your being a real pain, you know that? They're's a special place for people like you. To clever by halve.

You bastard.

 

[RamWoodie]

He has battled his ass off out there this year for us at LT. But it's just not a natural position for him. So we have one year left of his usage out there if we need him, which is valuable as it means we at least have an answer at the position even if it's not ideal.

But I expect the Rams will take an OT in this draft that has good feet then slot him behind Jackson and develop him, at a minimum that is, the project type. Ideally, though, they have one of those guys fall to them in round one. Of course that doesn't mean the Rams would take him but I can dream.

I can agree and it makes sense. You keep him for next year drafting his replacement in '24 to grow under him.

My thinking is to draft a QB high to grow under Stafford because they only have him for maybe 2 more years. You draft a LT in rounds 2 or later.

 

[Kupped]

You've always been Boom's sea daddy.

For our cap types what are we looking at with an exit strategy for Boom. I.e. how does it look after this season.


You bastard.

From what I've read on the websites that do this kind of thing... cutting Boom, post June 1 next year.. costs 5 mil in dead cap and saves 15 million.

It's a no-brainer.

 

[Loyal]

From what I've read on the websites that do this kind of thing... cutting Boom, post June 1 next year.. costs 5 mil in dead cap and saves 15 million.

It's a no-brainer.

Then that's the play, no matter how much @Merlin screams.

 

[Merlin]

I suppose it could be argued that Boom + Jackson = security at LT. But yeah a $15M savings is hard to pass up on and also I would hope they use that savings on another piece for the front.

Does seem likely the Rams either get Dotson inked or opt for one of the other FA guards. Zeitler probably tests FA since he's 33. Hunt and Brewer might hit FA. But if they get OG done early (before FA hits) then they can try to hit on a cornerstone piece in FA and hopefully on the defensive side of the ball (CB or Edge). Feels like drafting OG gets in the way of greater needs, so FA just makes too much sense.

For LT you can take it early if there or go the draft and develop route.

For WR it should be in play for our first few picks no problem. I suspect WR ends up being the pick.

For Safety and Nickel Hybrid types rounds 2 into midrounds.

For Edge if they don't get it done in FA then it's a priority in rounds 1-3.

We're still gonna have a hole or non-optimum roster at a couple spots again but it feels much more doable to get the roster up to snuff next offseason.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I suppose it could be argued that Boom + Jackson = security at LT. But yeah a $15M savings is hard to pass up on and also I would hope they use that savings on another piece for the front.

Does seem likely the Rams either get Dotson inked or opt for one of the other FA guards. Zeitler probably tests FA since he's 33. Hunt and Brewer might hit FA. But if they get OG done early (before FA hits) then they can try to hit on a cornerstone piece in FA and hopefully on the defensive side of the ball (CB or Edge). Feels like drafting OG gets in the way of greater needs, so FA just makes too much sense.

For LT you can take it early if there or go the draft and develop route.

For WR it should be in play for our first few picks no problem. I suspect WR ends up being the pick.

For Safety and Nickel Hybrid types rounds 2 into midrounds.

For Edge if they don't get it done in FA then it's a priority in rounds 1-3.

We're still gonna have a hole or non-optimum roster at a couple spots again but it feels much more doable to get the roster up to snuff next offseason.

Not getting Dotson inked would be a shame. But if we could swing a good LT from the draft, we could move AJ to guard and be in pretty decent shape. Lots of moving parts on line though if Dotson leaves. Hope they sign hiim.

 

[snackdaddy]

I'm all for drafting an OT in the first round. But they should bring Jackson back in case the rookie isn't ready. In a season where you expect to be competitive one thing you don't want is your LT needing time to learn the difference between college and NFL

 

[dieterbrock]

From what I've read on the websites that do this kind of thing... cutting Boom, post June 1 next year.. costs 5 mil in dead cap and saves 15 million.

It's a no-brainer.

They can cut or trade him and save 5 mill. While the post 6/1 cut saves 15 mill, it does push 10 mill of dead cap in to '25
Either way, like you said, its a no brainer

 

[Kupped]

They can cut or trade him and save 5 mill. While the post 6/1 cut saves 15 mill, it does push 10 mill of dead cap in to '25
Either way, like you said, its a no brainer

Manageable, imo.
It just depends on priorities and opportunities.
Maybe the draft a tackle and keep both of them? We’ll see.

 

[WestCoastRam]

It seems like the best strategy is the old and true one. Set yourself up in FA to go draft BPA (within reason) in draft. Resigning Dotson and Shelton (I thought we had him for at least another year, no?) allows us to keep the line as is.

Then you open the door to not having to go after a LT in round one unless it fits BPA but you definitely hunt for one on the 1st two days of the draft.

If we handle FA well, we can set ourselves up for going after any of the: LT, WR, OLB, CB in the first round and not have to force anything.

 

[dieterbrock]

Manageable, imo.
It just depends on priorities and opportunities.
Maybe the draft a tackle and keep both of them? We’ll see.

Basically, he'll cost the Rams 25 mill if they keep him for next year as there is 10 mill of dead cap due in '25 for the voidable years portion of the extension he just signed.
Bite the bullet and clear that space when you can.

 

[Jacobarch]

From what I've read on the websites that do this kind of thing... cutting Boom, post June 1 next year.. costs 5 mil in dead cap and saves 15 million.

It's a no-brainer.

This is what I was looking for in my other thread, great leverage for the Rams FO.

I'm hoping the rams significantly restructure his deal to more of a top end backup role and keep him around. It's a luxury to have a swing tackle as talented as boom. Not to say he's starting material but he's better than 95% of the Tackle backups in the league imo.

 

[Kupped]

You know… I hadn’t even considered restructuring Noteboom… and.. who knows?

They can truly open up a RIDICULOUS amount of money this offseason if they’re trying to maximize next 2 years. A ridiculous amount.

 

[KA210927]

I think the Rams would highly regret it if they don’t bring Jackson back. Even if you draft a 1st round LT there is no guarantee he’ll be as good as Jackson. Is he perfect? No but you can’t have all-pro players everywhere. They found a good young player for a bargain price. They need to retain him and focus elsewhere.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I think the Rams would highly regret it if they don’t bring Jackson back. Even if you draft a 1st round LT there is no guarantee he’ll be as good as Jackson. Is he perfect? No but you can’t have all-pro players everywhere. They found a good young player for a bargain price. They need to retain him and focus elsewhere.

Jackson will only be a Restricted free agent.
The Rams can retain him with a 1st or (probably) 2nd round Qualifying Offer.

 

[Kupped]

What if Jackson keeps improving through the end of the season?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Havenstein has had a great season thus far. Seems like usually he struggles a bit more in pass pro than he has this year. This might be his best season.

He’s been getting a lot of help too.

TEs chipping.

The Rams offense has been focused on getting the ball out quicker this year.

Dotson’s stellar play next to him.

Having a real running threat keeps edge rushers from teeing off.

Wendell

Ideal spot for Jackson is OG.

May be. I prefer they keep Dotson.
But first a round tender on Jackson could be interesting. I’m used to most of Snead’s early picks netting the Rams 5th, 6th, and 7th round comp picks. A UDFA getting them a 1st round pick would be cool.
But then they’d be forced to use it on a OLT in the draft, which is great if they landed a better one, but not so great if they landed a worse OLT.

 

[Kupped]

He’s been getting a lot of help too.

TEs chipping.

The Rams offense has been focused on getting the ball out quicker this year.

Dotson’s stellar play next to him.

Having a real running threat keeps edge rushers from teeing off.

Wendell

May be. I prefer they keep Dotson.
But first a round tender on Jackson could be interesting. I’m used to most of Snead’s early picks netting the Rams 5th, 6th, and 7th round comp picks. A UDFA getting them a 1st round pick would be cool.
But then they’d be forced to use it on a OLT in the draft, which is great if they landed a better one, but not so great if they landed a worse OLT.

I want Dotson and Jackson back... S-T-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y

 

[Allen2McVay]

I want Dotson and Jackson back... S-T-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y

 

[RamWoodie]

You know… I hadn’t even considered restructuring Noteboom… and.. who knows?

They can truly open up a RIDICULOUS amount of money this offseason if they’re trying to maximize next 2 years. A ridiculous amount.

They restructured him last year. Boom reminds me of Saffold, who was often injured too. Both guys are versatile on the line and give continuity too the OLine.

My thing is this...the Rams can be right back contending next year and you want an O'Line that is seasoned and savvy, with depth. That's why I'm not for shedding Boom.