Aaron Donald’s contract situation

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How can they afford to sign him with the cooks deal going down tho? Do they just take it from next years cap?


The way Shefter is reporting the Cooks deal is that he's playing for his $8 mil this year - then the extension kicks in next year.

Although even with that I didn't think we had enough to pay Donald THIS season - but my guess is that AD will get something like Cooks got - and the guaranteed money makes him willing to play on his salary for this year.
 

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How can they afford to sign him with the cooks deal going down tho? Do they just take it from next years cap?
Depends on how the deals are worked. Look at Matt Ryan’s deal. They worked it out so that his signing bonus was paid over five years. The last year of his previous and the first four of his extension. Some deals the cap hit is pro rated over just the extension. We need more info on the Cooks deal to know more.
 

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The way Shefter is reporting the Cooks deal is that he's playing for his $8 mil this year - then the extension kicks in next year.

Although even with that I didn't think we had enough to pay Donald THIS season - but my guess is that AD will get something like Cooks got - and the guaranteed money makes him willing to play on his salary for this year.

Or they can reduce his base pay this year to $1 million, which saves a bit over $5.8 million. Then give him a signing bonus of a tad over $29 million (signing bonuses can be amortized over up to 5 seasons). That way his cap hit is the same this season, but he gets a load of money up front. Guarantee just over $15 million per season for 2019 and 2020, and suddenly he has $60 million guaranteed, with a cap hit for future seasons of just over $21 million. If they like, have $14 million roster bonuses guaranteed in 2019 and 2020 and reduce his salary, payable on the first day of the league year, so he gets money as fast as practical.
 

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After AD signs by next week, the rams will have completed the best off season of contract singing in ram history. 6 pro bowlers and probably 3 HOFr's.
 

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I just don't see Donald signing before Khalil Mack. I could be wrong, and I have been wrong before, but I think Donald knows that if he signs first, Mack will get a bigger deal, and I think he and Mack both know that and are playing a sort of 3rd party game of chicken. I think we all agree that Donald is the best defensive player in the league, and deserves to be paid like it.
 

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I just don't see Donald signing before Khalil Mack. I could be wrong, and I have been wrong before, but I think Donald knows that if he signs first, Mack will get a bigger deal, and I think he and Mack both know that and are playing a sort of 3rd party game of chicken. I think we all agree that Donald is the best defensive player in the league, and deserves to be paid like it.
Honestly what’s the big difference gonna be? One signs 6 years $120 the othe 6 years $122? The difference won’t be huge enough imo to make a difference.
 

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Ego, and being able to say, "I am the highest paid..." I am not ripping on either guy, I would feel the same.
 

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How can they afford to sign him with the cooks deal going down tho? Do they just take it from next years cap?

The Rams are going to try a new model for building a franchise. They call it the 35 man roster.
 

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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the clown strikes again. get ready for a hold out that lasts all of training camp and beyond.

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I think it means that the new deal will be done the second that camp opens. ;)
 

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I am betting the deal is all but done. Hoping that Donald was just in no hurry to complete the signing allowing him to train the way he wanted off season and allowing him to wait to see if a Mack signing might allow for him to add a little sweetener to his deal. After all - at the time of his signing he deserves to be the highest paid defensive player in the league. After he signs he has no control over being trumped by any subsequent signing.
 

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Well yeah I got that. Just wondering if anyone actually knew the answer
Yeah... I’d like to know too. But there are 25 pages of cap questioning with no real answers. I just figure they know how to do this and until it happens no one here will be able to give a real answer.
 

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I just don't see Donald signing before Khalil Mack. I could be wrong, and I have been wrong before, but I think Donald knows that if he signs first, Mack will get a bigger deal, and I think he and Mack both know that and are playing a sort of 3rd party game of chicken. I think we all agree that Donald is the best defensive player in the league, and deserves to be paid like it.

Donald HAS to know that Mack's going to get a better deal.

1) he was drafted higher. For second contracts, that is a factor.

2) Mack won the 2016 DPOY and he's up there with Von Miller, AD and a healthy JJ Watt in value, so he's got enough resume to demand a top contract.

3) The Raiders don't have the talent that the Rams have. AD KNOWS what it feels like to be on a losing team which Mack is all too familiar with. The way the Rams are building this team to win over the long term, the competitor in AD knows with the salary cap that he could always make ridiculous money in...a place like Miami...not Miami because they're still stinging from the Suh contract, but a place like that with cap space and no will to build a winner.

In the end I think Mack's contract will be nominally bigger than ADs.

And after their careers are over, AD is gonna look at Mack's few extra pennies and then look at his own multiple Lombardis with the Rams and say, "yep....worth it."
 

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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...donald-yet-and-whether-or-not-it-makes-sense/

Examining why the Rams haven't paid Aaron Donald yet, and whether or not it makes sense
The Rams are spending money like crazy but not giving any of it to the league's best defender

The Los Angeles Rams have been busier than just about any team in the NFLthis offseason.

They started things off by trading second- and fourth-round picks to the Kansas City Chiefs for All-Pro cornerback Marcus Peters, who has been one of the best defensive backs in the NFL from the moment he stepped on the field. Just a couple weeks later, they used the franchise tag on safety LaMarcus Joyner after they were unable to agree to a long-term deal, which meant they let Sammy Watkins hit free agency. The Rams then unloaded Alec Ogletree and his boondoggle of a contract to the Giants for fourth- and sixth-round selections.

With corner Trumaine Johnson coming off back-to-back seasons on the franchise tag and likely to leave in free agency himself (he eventually signed a monster deal with the Jets), the Rams swung another trade for a corner, this time landing Aqib Talib from the Broncos in exchange for just a fifth-round selection. Two weeks later, the Rams signed former Dolphins defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh to a one-year, $14 million deal, giving them an absolutely terrifying defensive interior to go with their elite defensive backfield. Even after all that, the Rams weren't done. They sent first- and sixth-round picks to the Patriots in exchange for wideout Brandin Cooks to replace the departed Watkins, who had signed a big deal with the Chiefs.

The Rams then made several trades during the draft itself; and they ended up making 10 selections (more than all but five teams) despite the fact that they had dealt away first-, second-, fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-round picks in the deals for Peters, Talib, and Cooks. And now even though we are very late in the offseason and about to head into the start of training camp, the Rams doubled-down on their Cooks investment by handing him a five-year, $80 million contract extension.

The question that lingers over all of this is, well, why have the Rams still not paid Aaron Donald, who is likely the best defensive player in football?

Donald has been absolutely dominant since he entered the league as the No. 13 overall pick out of Pittsburgh in 2013. He has made the Pro Bowl in every season of his career and has been named a first team All-Pro in each of the last three seasons. He has recorded 204 tackles and 39 sacks in his four NFL seasons. The latter figure ranks first in the league among defensive tackles, and ninth in the league overall. Even those figures do not do his impact justice, however. He's forced nine fumbles and recovered two more, deflected nine passes, and finished in the top six in total pressures (sacks plus hits plus hurries) in each of the last three seasons, including first a year ago.

He is heading into the fifth-year option portion of his rookie contract, set to make $6,892,000 in 2018 after pulling in $10,136,500 during the first four years of his rookie-scale deal. He held out for a contract extension last summer but did not get one, and he ultimately missed the first two games of the year before returning and looking like his typical dominant self. He still wants that new deal and the Rams still have not given him one.

With the uncertainty surrounding J.J. Watt's health, Donald is pretty clearly the active holder of the title "best defensive player in football," and he may in fact be the best overall player in the league right now. Having him under contract for south of $7 million (i.e. less than half of what Suh makes) should be considered outright larceny. And yet the Rams are content to let his contract situation hang out there, dealing away draft picks for other stars who will soon need to be paid, handing out big money to Suh, lavishing Cooks with an extension, and ... wait?

On one level, extending Cooks right now made sense. Getting his deal done before Odell Beckham Jr. and/or Julio Jones sign new contracts means you get to set the market rather than letting other teams do it, which means you keep your cost basis down by just a little bit. If the Rams believe Cooks is their No. 1 wideout for the foreseeable future, getting him locked in before other similarly-situated players get paid is a smart move.

But Donald is the best player at his position and he's making a pittance compared to not just other top defenders, but not one but two teammates at his own position (Suh and Michael Brockers), as well as a recently-acquired wide receiver who is maybe one of the 10-to-15 best players at his position (on a good day). Donald's deal is up this time next year, but both Peters and Todd Gurley are extension-eligible next offseason as well, and Joyner still doesn't have a long-term deal yet, either. The franchise tag can be used on only one of these guys, remember.

Can the Rams afford to pay all of them? Can they afford to anger Donald by not giving him his money now, and risking that he wants to walk? Are they willing to franchise him for multiple seasons and then pay him big money? Do they want to go year-to-year with it like they did with Johnson, and then let him walk when he hits free agency at age 30? Given the way defensive tackles age, is that actually the smart play? (Donald is *technically* an end in Wade Phillips' 3-4 but he plays on the interior so we're using tackle as a shorthand.) And if they're franchising Donald next year, what happens with Joyner?

There are way more questions than answers here. We won't know what the Rams really have planned unless and until they give Donald his big payday, or until we see what they do next offseason. Between now and then, we should expect to hear a whole lot about how Donald is unhappy he's yet to be given a contract commensurate with his immense talent, and we should not expect him to participate in camp or the preseason, either. Buckle up.
 

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Honestly what’s the big difference gonna be? One signs 6 years $120 the othe 6 years $122? The difference won’t be huge enough imo to make a difference.
Well, and that one of them will drink champagne from a Lombardi:rockon:
 

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I still believe AD will not be in TC and pre-season. I do believe he will be extended and not miss any regular season games. Rams and AD don't want to risk injury, ala Orlando Pace.

Just my Humble Opinion.
 
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