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ramsince62

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Frankly, I'm at a complete loss as to what happened to the best Ram blog around, thanks to Paul and the early members who carried this blog for the first 3+ years.

It is a complete mystery to me as to why this wonderful site has morphed into some sort of "tweener". It's between some sort of progressive type site that includes (IMO) ridiculous things like commercial ad's and ROD money. Sadly, it no longer includes useful things such as "related Rams web links" as it once did. Tell me if you can, how is this site one damn ounce better as a result of these changes? Is participation up? Does it "feel" the same, is it as fun and insightful as before? Is information as readily available? Can you get almost anything pertaining to the Rams on here any longer? How about articles and video's? Are they anywhere near as numerous?

Sure the makeup of the site is sorta slick, but not as user friendly, not really. By that I mean it doesn't have the "fell' that it originally did. Has anyone even spent a moment considering why the attendance and participation rate is so low since this (ahem) new site came up? And where are the majority of the members who supported this site since 2010? Most are AWOL and in all honesty, is it any surprise they're no longer posting?

What's happened here recently is an example of when a highly functioning sports site loses its way and mistakenly believes that bigger is better.....well it's NOT better and participation and attendance has fallen as a result. Honestly when I come here, I feel like I'm someplace else. Sure there are a few of the old faithful, but the majority who contributed and made this an excellent place to celebrate our support of the Rams is a shadow of what it was only 2 or 3 months ago and it's a crying shame.

Then there is the "thought and speech" police and every Sunday, if I want to read or comment on the game day thread, I'm initially greeted by a warning about watching my P's & Q's.....are you kidding me? Is this grade school? Is it really necessary to repeat this crap week after week? This blog prospered because of the 99.9% of those who originally helped grow this thing. And even 2 or 3 years later the vast majority had no problems conducting themselves appropriately.....do the so called monitors really believe that these types of warnings and threats are appropriate or even necessary? Wouldn't it have been just as effective to either eliminate or segregate those who acted inappropriately instead of lording over the entire blog site?
Oh, I see remarkable attention and removal of posts that don't fit a particular forum, but again is it really necessary to look over everyone's shoulder all of the time?

All I know is that neither the participation rate or feel of this blog is the same as it was and that's a damn shame, because it was the best....but not any longer, at least not in my opinion. Even Paul no longer posts and there darn sure isn't anywhere near the number of video's and articles as there were only a few months ago.

I assume that there are reasons for some of this, but again, I'm terribly disappointed by these changes, attitudes and lack of information that was the hallmark of this formally outstanding site where Rams fans felt a strong kinsmanship, this too is but a vague memory.

So here we all are, with a slick site, just like all the others out there, except for one thing...this site has lost the magic and for that I'm terribly disappointed. I know Paul and others were well meaning, but ask yourselves, does is this blog in its current configuration without its previous fan "down home feel" and togetherness including the formally related web links so members could easily navigate between places feel the same to you all? Did we need ROD dollars instead of ease and convenience of use? Do the majority of those who spent numerous of hours on ROD enjoy it anywhere near as much as before these changes?

Those issues and more are what have driven me to say the things I have. For me, it's a sad day, because I personally believe this blog has become a shadow of itself and the magic and enjoyment that once was, just isn't anymore. And so I bid those of you who remain a fond adieu. Naturally, I'll lurk here now and then, but not like the good OLE times when this was virtually my only Rams destination of choice where I knew that just about everything pertaining to my Rams team could readily be found.

I guess that good times have a limit when it comes to anything tech related as the powers that be, always seem unable to leave a successful formula alone....that's just the way it is these days and it's a shame. So finally I end my rant, by saying that it's been a pleasure meeting and speaking to so many great Rams fans and highly knowledgeable contributors, I just wish so badly that this group could have maintained it's continuity and camaraderie at least until the Rams could break through their play off drought.

Anyway, I wish you all the best this holiday season and pray that someday, someone else comes forward with the talent, vision and dedication as "The Dude".

Peace.
 

Angry Ram

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I don't see any commercial ads? The sportsbook is harmless. It's just there, you don't even have to participate.

The new site, and anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, was b/c of constant issues w/ the old server. It did take some time getting used to, but it's not that hard to get used to a website.

Re "thought and speech police" it's b/c new guys come here (which is ironic when you say attendance is down) and spout the same shit you see on any other forum: bashing any part of the team w/ super negative stuff like calling a player "garbage" or worthless or w/e. I mean have you seen the PD lately? Win or lose, the same handful of trolls obsess over Sam Bradford. IDK about you, but when I go to laugh at Redskins misery and read some of their uptighty-ness I can't take it.

As for guys not posting, IDK. They may have issues that are preventing that. Maybe they don't just don't feel like posting. I myself was out of the country for 2 months over the summer w/ barely any internet...so who knows.

So yeah, hope you stay, but I'm not gonna force you to.
 

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I haven't been here all that long, maybe 6-7 months, and i hated the change at 1st. But I think you are pretty far off base to argue that this site isnt STILL the standard. I think its still homey, but adds a little bit of extras...ie the ROD Shop and $, the exchange. Things of that nature. I think everything is still here, its just a matter of knowing where. And i'm not sure about attendance or new member count. But I think most, like me, have been all over this interweb, looking for new homes at one point or another. Good luck beyond here. The owner of the site can not please everyone, Some people want sandy beaches, some want bitter cold wilderness. So good luck out there.
 

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Dammit , I'm sorry but if you're gonna leave ,don't slam the door,I love the place and if it ain't for you OK ,hope you find something better
 

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I don't really have any issues with the new style of the forum but I will say that I agree with the "positivity police" part. I have never seen any post here the even approached what was at the PD site yet you get warned about it all the time and have stuff removed when it was absolutely harmless. It's their site so they can do what they want but I'm not a real big fan of limiting people's voice on a forum unless it's clearly over the line. The trolls in the other forum were easy to find but they were rarely banned or warned, and if they were, they'd just create a new username and start the same crap all over again. All you need to do to keep this forum from becoming that forum is to ban the obvious trolls and their IP's.

For right now, though, this site serves its purpose and provides some good tidbits here and there. I know a lot of work goes into it so I appreciate that.
 

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On a different board I frequent, the site is so outdated its now "nostalgic"
This place is like nirvana to me.
Although Im not so tech saavy and am still figuring things out....
 

BatteringRambo

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Dammit , I'm sorry but if you're gonna leave ,don't slam the door,I love the place and if it ain't for you OK ,hope you find something better

I was gone 2 plus maybe even 3 months...not tech savy but really had no issues at all adapting to the new format once I returned. This site has and always will be All for me.
 

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It was my understanding that Paul has been busy lately... even so, he's put a lot of effort here so if he's not busy and just relaxing, that's fair to me. I believe he was the source for 85% of the news you think you're missing. Its an awful lot of work!

As far as almost everything else you said, I feel the exact opposite.
 

Alan

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ramsince62 going on temporary (I hope) hiatus:
Anyway, I wish you all the best this holiday season and pray that someday, someone else comes forward with the talent, vision and dedication as "The Dude".

Peace.

I too liked the old site much better than this one but this one has all my friends and the most knowledgeable posters so I make the best of it. But then again, I liked the Huddle much better than the original ROD site. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that you and I are ancient mariners who don't want or like change. Plus bad vision on my part.:lol:

As for the admonitions to play nice, I just ignore those and write what I want. I have a tendency to be quite negative and it's something I have to work on constantly so friendly reminders wouldn't bother me even if I read them.

Even if you find a new site that is easier to navigate I doubt you'll find the same quality posters we have here. Take a break and come on back when you want to talk about the Rams again. I'll miss you for sure. As the commercial said, "we'll leave a light on" for your return.

I hope you and your family have a wonderful holiday season.
 

LesBaker

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Frankly, I'm at a complete loss as to what happened to the best Ram blog around, thanks to Paul and the early members who carried this blog for the first 3+ years.

It is a complete mystery to me as to why this wonderful site has morphed into some sort of "tweener". It's between some sort of progressive type site that includes (IMO) ridiculous things like commercial ad's and ROD money. Sadly, it no longer includes useful things such as "related Rams web links" as it once did. Tell me if you can, how is this site one damn ounce better as a result of these changes? Is participation up? Does it "feel" the same, is it as fun and insightful as before? Is information as readily available? Can you get almost anything pertaining to the Rams on here any longer? How about articles and video's? Are they anywhere near as numerous?

Sure the makeup of the site is sorta slick, but not as user friendly, not really. By that I mean it doesn't have the "fell' that it originally did. Has anyone even spent a moment considering why the attendance and participation rate is so low since this (ahem) new site came up? And where are the majority of the members who supported this site since 2010? Most are AWOL and in all honesty, is it any surprise they're no longer posting?

What's happened here recently is an example of when a highly functioning sports site loses its way and mistakenly believes that bigger is better.....well it's NOT better and participation and attendance has fallen as a result. Honestly when I come here, I feel like I'm someplace else. Sure there are a few of the old faithful, but the majority who contributed and made this an excellent place to celebrate our support of the Rams is a shadow of what it was only 2 or 3 months ago and it's a crying shame.

Then there is the "thought and speech" police and every Sunday, if I want to read or comment on the game day thread, I'm initially greeted by a warning about watching my P's & Q's.....are you kidding me? Is this grade school? Is it really necessary to repeat this crap week after week? This blog prospered because of the 99.9% of those who originally helped grow this thing. And even 2 or 3 years later the vast majority had no problems conducting themselves appropriately.....do the so called monitors really believe that these types of warnings and threats are appropriate or even necessary? Wouldn't it have been just as effective to either eliminate or segregate those who acted inappropriately instead of lording over the entire blog site?
Oh, I see remarkable attention and removal of posts that don't fit a particular forum, but again is it really necessary to look over everyone's shoulder all of the time?

All I know is that neither the participation rate or feel of this blog is the same as it was and that's a damn shame, because it was the best....but not any longer, at least not in my opinion. Even Paul no longer posts and there darn sure isn't anywhere near the number of video's and articles as there were only a few months ago.

I assume that there are reasons for some of this, but again, I'm terribly disappointed by these changes, attitudes and lack of information that was the hallmark of this formally outstanding site where Rams fans felt a strong kinsmanship, this too is but a vague memory.

So here we all are, with a slick site, just like all the others out there, except for one thing...this site has lost the magic and for that I'm terribly disappointed. I know Paul and others were well meaning, but ask yourselves, does is this blog in its current configuration without its previous fan "down home feel" and togetherness including the formally related web links so members could easily navigate between places feel the same to you all? Did we need ROD dollars instead of ease and convenience of use? Do the majority of those who spent numerous of hours on ROD enjoy it anywhere near as much as before these changes?

Those issues and more are what have driven me to say the things I have. For me, it's a sad day, because I personally believe this blog has become a shadow of itself and the magic and enjoyment that once was, just isn't anymore. And so I bid those of you who remain a fond adieu. Naturally, I'll lurk here now and then, but not like the good OLE times when this was virtually my only Rams destination of choice where I knew that just about everything pertaining to my Rams team could readily be found.

I guess that good times have a limit when it comes to anything tech related as the powers that be, always seem unable to leave a successful formula alone....that's just the way it is these days and it's a shame. So finally I end my rant, by saying that it's been a pleasure meeting and speaking to so many great Rams fans and highly knowledgeable contributors, I just wish so badly that this group could have maintained it's continuity and camaraderie at least until the Rams could break through their play off drought.

Anyway, I wish you all the best this holiday season and pray that someday, someone else comes forward with the talent, vision and dedication as "The Dude".

Peace.

Since you're leaving can I have your ROD money?

Admins can transfer it I'm sure. :heh:
 

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Sorry to see you go.

But I understand if you don't feel at home.

You gotta do what you gotta do.
 

Mister Sin

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I'm with Les here. Docs u hate the money, I'll be a gent, and take it off your hands
 

mr.stlouis

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Man, this is the best website I've seen for any team. I like the limited trash talk allowed policy because then it limits what tools such as Pesci and Old Larry can say (Different site.) It just stirs everyone up too much, especially me. Sometimes I do miss those cut throat arguments but not often. I'm not sure what u think you're missing out on but hope you find it elsewhere.
 

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I despise deleted posts. I think it better to confront the issue with the post and don't go PC because PC is for pussies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope you don't go 62, you will make my seniority here go up a bit!:heh:

Take a break, have a great Christmas and New Years, and we'll see you back for some draft talk later ok?

And I too will help you deplete that ROD bucks account:wink:
 

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The quality of the responses to your original post tells you everything you need to know about this site.
 

The Rammer

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Honestly, I love this site personally and think the changes improved it. At first I was kinda mehhh about the whole site change but once I got used to it it's very user friendly and has some nice new features. With the points you make about the policeing of the site now I defiantly think those are valid points. Someone on this forum has a pic as their sig and it has a nerdy guy on it that says " Be a internet forum moderator etc..." feels like thats how this site is turning into with mods trying to parent the site instead of just running it.
 

Mister Sin

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The quality of the responses to your original post tells you everything you need to know about this site.

What do you want us to do? Beg him to stay? I've been on MBs since the 90s, you always have people that have something that sets him off. I personally have never had a conversation with the guy, who am I to talk him into staying? I don't want anyone to leave, but I refuse to beg someone to please don't go. I think he will realize how good of a site we have here and will return. If not, then I truly hope he finds what he needs.
 

Ky Ram

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With the points you make about the policeing of the site now I defiantly think those are valid points. Someone on this forum has a pic as their sig and it has a nerdy guy on it that says " Be a internet forum moderator etc..." feels like thats how this site is turning into with mods trying to parent the site instead of just running it.
Perhaps you can't run the site without doing the other. If you believe that a site can monitor itself spend some time at any other Ram forum - one day will give you everything you need to know.
There is also always the other option of opening your own site - investing the capital, running the place the way you see fit...
I really don't mean to chastise you personally, i just think a lot of guys here have no idea how good they have it.