A letter from Kevin Demoff

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Whether they "toughed it out" or not they were bad. I don't make excuses for my team. When they are bad I call them out

Wow tough guy huh? You ever play football in the NFL with a sprained MCL? Noteboom continued to play because of all the injuries around them and they didn't have anyone else. Funny have you called out Havenstein? He has no excuse. I don't remember you callig him out after he got blown up repeatedly in the Raider game. Hmmm for a long time I was the only one calling out Blythe.

Its not excuses it's reasons, big difference.
 

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Wow tough guy huh? You ever play football in the NFL with a sprained MCL? Noteboom continued to play because of all the injuries around them and they didn't have anyone else. Funny have you called out Havenstein? He has no excuse. I don't remember you callig him out after he got blown up repeatedly in the Raider game. Hmmm for a long time I was the only one calling out Blythe.

Its not excuses it's reasons, big difference.
Tough guy? Not really lol. But I can defend myself. We are gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

I didn't list Havenstein because he's mostly solid. You hardly hear his name and for an OL that's good IMO.
 
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Of course you would.TOTALY DISAGREE Man!! Noteboom is a good LT. I know ALL THE DOUBTERS.
If anybody knows me,or follows some of my clearer post know I have a descent track record.
I lost a couple bets on The Rams futures about 7-8 years ago. Still Fisher was what he was as a Rams HC. A LOSSER!! I drank the Kool-aide & Nick Foles won a Superbowl against The GOAT.
I’ll wait till OTA’s & see what The Rams look like with Wendle Day 1. 4 the record I think niners are tough. Then the Hags future is brighter than The Rams right now. —I’ll go on record as I really like Matthew Stafford(hate wife) & was never a Fan of trading for either Stafford & Goff. Jalen RAMsey was worth it imo.Trading him was a must,but that AFC is going to be Tough!
You're right, Noteboom is a good player. The problem I have is he can't stay healthy. We agree on one thing, other teams in the division are in better shape than the rams.
 

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I for one liked Demoff's letter. I thought he struck a good balance between "acknowledging the obvious difficult reality" and "trying to add a positive spin."

Mainly, I'm glad to hear they plan to spend a lot of $ again in 2024 and beyond. The Rams aren't cheapskates and I believe him when he says their goal is to win multiple Lombardis.
Definitely agree!

@KevinDemoff if you ever come and read this site and read the opinions of scrubs, read this: Let me be a fly on the wall in the mansion for the draft! I’ll get you guys snacks and drinks and keep my mouth shut! Lol
 

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You're right, Noteboom is a good player. The problem I have is he can't stay healthy. We agree on one thing, other teams in the division are in better shape than the rams.
Well if your saying Noteboom is good then that is 2 things.If your saying A”Jackson is the better LT I disagree.I will say Jackson is probably Fhe Best GUARD The Rams have on the roster & Noteboom stinks as a Guard.Big Rob is a guy I think would be an excellent RG as when he cross-trained with Kromer.
IMO both would be maulers & really help establish The Run Game & both good in pass pro.Havienstien’s biggest problem is stepping out on edge rushers.Having a RT next to him is would help,as a RT having a RB & or TE(WR) to support is almost a must with a speed DE/OLB.

-Back to Noteboom - having Alaric at LG would really help him out & hopefully he gets through a full season healthy?? That is (has been) a concern.
 

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Well if your saying Noteboom is good then that is 2 things.If your saying A”Jackson is the better LT I disagree.I will say Jackson is probably Fhe Best GUARD The Rams have on the roster & Noteboom stinks as a Guard.Big Rob is a guy I think would be an excellent RG as when he cross-trained with Kromer.
IMO both would be maulers & really help establish The Run Game & both good in pass pro.Havienstien’s biggest problem is stepping out on edge rushers.Having a RT next to him is would help,as a RT having a RB & or TE(WR) to support is almost a must with a speed DE/OLB.

-Back to Noteboom - having Alaric at LG would really help him out & hopefully he gets through a full season healthy?? That is (has been) a concern.
For the record, I don't think Jackson is better than Noteboom, yet.

But like you said Jackson's health is a concern and it's unclear whether he will be able to contribute.
 

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If Joe Noteboom is our starting LT next season, we'll see the same struggling offense we saw last year. It's clear McVay and Stafford do not want to run a ball control/PA rollout/quick release passing game to hide our terrible OL. If the OL is not improved by adding new players whether thru FA or the draft, i think it's safe to say we're in for a similar season that we had last year.

It's insane after what we saw with our own eyes last year that people think we're gonna be some sort of sleeper team sending a starting line consisting of a turnstile at LT (Noteboom), an avg/below avg LG (Shelton), and depending again on an oft injured C (Allen).

It's clear as day Alaric Jackson is the best LT on our roster and Hav will start at RT...every other spot should feature new starting players or atleast be an open competition (Center included) for there to be any reason to be optimistic about our offense improving from last year.
I couldn't agree more.
 

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Definitely agree!

@KevinDemoff if you ever come and read this site and read the opinions of scrubs, read this: Let me be a fly on the wall in the mansion for the draft! I’ll get you guys snacks and drinks and keep my mouth shut! Lol
You would sell your own mother out for a look at that draft board wouldn't you.
 

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For the record, I don't think Jackson is better than Noteboom, yet.

But like you said Jackson's health is a concern and it's unclear whether he will be able to contribute.
Mcvay said he was good & no issues. Got him on MEDs. What almost all Ram Fans are forgetting is The Rams shut it down last season & still competed.
I can go head to head on all The Rams did last season.Last year was a fluke & all the dominos fell.
I can see The Rams doing very well next year.If you look at in a WHOLE there are reasons for almost everything.The thing I’m made about is how The Rams have drafted the last 2 seasons mainly with the Offensive Line.
— The Rams got LUCKY with A’Jackson,but how he developed is a credit to himself.I like what he TWEETED & his confidence.When The Rams scored on his first drive it was AWESOME! He is a COOL-CAT.
—I called it out & Bruss has shown nothing.Anchrum was ahead of A. Jackson at RG & he admits that is his spot Anchrum WON Best Ram last season for Walter Payton award(I believe?).
 

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The Buffalo game. They got dismantled for 7 sacks. Whether they "toughed it out" or not they were bad. I don't make excuses for my team. When they are bad I call them out. And it's pretty apparent they will be going with basically the same group soo same philosophy, same players, same results IMO.
In the Buffalo game 2 guys got injured. So how could it be "before the injuries" if people were injured in that game?
 

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The below is sure interesting once you read it ......

Of all the Ram OL'ers that were contracted to the Rams MR53 after the regular season began, Nsekhe/ Aboushi/ Skura/ Kolone/ Arcuri/ Thomas & Kolone did not miss any more than 1 gm & most did not miss anytime due to injuries.

All but 2 of Ram's original 8 OL'ers on the initial MR53 fell in injuries for long periods of time leaving only Havenstein & Iron Man Bobby Evans!

Allen IR'd
Noteboom IR'd
Shelton only finished 11 gms.
Jackson IR'd
Anchrum IR'd
Edwards IR'd

Guess you could throw Bruss in there too...IR'd.
sure doesn't make me have a warm and cozy feeling in regards to our OL, looks like it might be really offensive
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The Buffalo game. They got dismantled for 7 sacks. Whether they "toughed it out" or not they were bad. I don't make excuses for my team. When they are bad I call them out. And it's pretty apparent they will be going with basically the same group soo same philosophy, same players, same results IMO.
new ol coach will make a difference. go rams.
 

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sure doesn't make me have a warm and cozy feeling in regards to our OL, looks like it might be really offensive
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Sorry, I know where your at being warm/cozy is very important....

I believe McVay has his 2023 OL set & ready to go. I do believe Ram's position at this time is no further major enhancements to the OL are needed.

OT-Havenstein/ Noteboom/ Arcuri/ Jackson
OG-Anchrum/ Bruss/ Thomas
OC- Allen/ Shelton

McVay seems happy having versatile reserves like Shelton OC-OG/ Jackson OT-OG/ Thomas LT/LG will provide all the needs in case of injuries. Basically telling me I just need to sit down shut up & be warm & cozy from this point on this OL because he has this covered already in Free Agency. I believe that McVay feels what happened last season was a once-in-a-century OL injury event.

Normally if it were not for the constant repeat injuries by many of our starters this OL would not be all that bad. The OL is well-blended in experience & skills. Far Too much finesse for my liking but for McVay's preferred OL blocking scheme they at times work well enough to win at times for him.

McVay is almost certainly centering on toys like several fast WR's (Atwell clones) & RB for his offense with his first 3 selections with half of ROD rooting him on:not::eyeroll:.
 
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In the Buffalo game 2 guys got injured. So how could it be "before the injuries" if people were injured in that game?

Yeah - It’s SAD Ram Fans that don’t appreciate Von Miller or Joesph Noteboom. Both players helped The Rams win the Superbowl. Yes Noteboom gets injured,but going against Von Miller was The WORST matchup he could have asked for .
The Bill when Von Miller got hurt really showed what a good player he is.I just know if there was a guy that could get into Notebooms head & expose his weakness it would be Von Miller from just going against each other in practice.
 

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Sorry, I know where your at being warm/cozy is very important....

I believe McVay has his 2023 OL set & ready to go. I do believe Ram's position at this time is no further major enhancements to the OL are needed.

OT-Havenstein/ Noteboom/ Arcuri/ Jackson
OG-Anchrum/ Bruss/ Thomas
OC- Allen/ Shelton

McVay seems happy having versatile reserves like Shelton OC-OG/ Jackson OT-OG/ Thomas LT/LG will provide all the needs in case of injuries. Basically telling me I just need to sit down shut up & be warm & cozy from this point on this OL because he has this covered already in Free Agency. What happened last season was a once-in-a-century OL injury event.

Normally if it were not for the constant repeat injuries by many of our starters this OL would not be all that bad. The OL is well-blended in experience & skills. Far Too much finesse for my liking but for McVay's preferred OL blocking scheme they at times work well enough to win at times for him.

McVay is centering on toys like several fast WR's (Atwell clones) & RB for his offense with his first 3 selections.
Bonify’d- your lineup looks off to me. I don’t know what will happen in the Draft.
—IMO finding The Best Swing OT if value is there might be the best way for The Rams to go.
Then again I’ll wait & see.

From your list Arcuri & Thomas will get Excellent Reps in the Preseason. Plus they should get a few players during & after the draft to develop.
I think Zak Kromer & Wendle will do an excellent job in building The Offensive Lineup.

—I drink a lot of Rams Kool-aide ,but you & I had a different upon on CAREBERRY ! You will not find many post of me thinking he was a good coach!! I said it from the start & all The KROMER HATERS(oldnotdead) ,didn’t want to admit what an excellent coach he was.
—I’ve ALWAYS been a HUGE ZAK Fan & think he has been Excellent over the years. He never got credit for what he has done as a Rams coach.
—BTW- when he took over as The TE’s coach Hopkins & Higbee did well.
Wendle worked with Kromer in Buffalo & I said it when They Rams reported interest vs. that Bears asst. that Wendle & ZAK Kromer would be good together.
I think Kromer doesn’t have a Big Ego & is an excellent young coach. Haven’t heard any Rams Fan on here EVER give him credit.
Shula is a good young coach as well & Mcvay has been with these guys since he has been The Rams HC.
I find it funny that The Rams probably have the most depth they have had since Mcvay has been The Rams HC & both these guys have the most energy & upside as Any OLine coach as well.
 

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Bonify’d- your lineup looks off to me. I don’t know what will happen in the Draft.
—IMO finding The Best Swing OT if value is there might be the best way for The Rams to go.
Then again I’ll wait & see.

From your list Arcuri & Thomas will get Excellent Reps in the Preseason. Plus they should get a few players during & after the draft to develop.
What part of the OL is off as it is today? Where did I off it?

McVay swung the 7th rd rookie OT Arcuri last season. He is listed behind Havenstein. Started 1 gms @ LT & ended up doing a better job @ LT than Noteboom in several of his 6 gms.

McVay utilized Noteboom as a swing OT in 2018 & in the 2021 seasons, In fact, he was at his healthiest when he was in this utilized in this swing OT position.

McVay used Alaric Jackson as his swing OT in 2021 when Noteboom had been relieved of his swing post due to starting. Jackson always a college LT is listed as a RT but also swung inside to RG due to the emergencies

Tremayne Anchrum was a swing OT in his rookie season for Kromer. He was a 4 year OT in college.

Zac Thomas was a swing OT in college too.

Even Coleman Shelton started games in college at both LT & RT you know he is over 6-4 tall.

So please help me understand why a swing OT is a bonified thing to go out & draft.

Then there is Logan Bruss who was a pure OT for four seasons in college, not an OG so add that to the former OT's the Rams have.

My thoughts, if McVay is not filling the airways with an overblown prognosis of on-time recoveries of Noteboom, Jackson, Bruss & Anchrum why is there a need for drafting a swing OT?

My dumb self and my 1 working paramecium brain cells tell me that what McVay needs in this draft are swing INTERIOR OL'ers who can swing/swang & swung like hell between center RG & LG as needed as the starting OL'ers are carted off the field into surgery.
 
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