49ers vs Rams Vent Thread

[Mackeyser]

Have you ever thrown a football sitting in your ass?
It's not that easy

Well, technically you're down if you're sitting, so it's not a forward pass...LOL

Also, can confirm, throwing a football from a seated position raises the level of difficulty substantially. 0/10 would recommend

 

[Dodgersrf]

Well, technically you're down if you're sitting, so it's not a forward pass...LOL

Also, can confirm, throwing a football from a seated position raises the level of difficulty substantially. 0/10 would recommend

I see no fix for the oline this year.
It's time for McVay to start game plans featuring the dink and dunk.

 

[OskiEsq]

Just because it’s something you don’t like doesn’t mean it’s not true. Watch the game through those Cal 16 googles all you want it doesn’t change he had a horrid game. He’s been part of the problem and not the solution.


Oh, Jimmy G can suck a big one to.

I’m a huge Cal fan, double bear, true blue - and I can’t say with a straight face that Goff had a good game. He did not. Yes, the OL did him no favors and definitely contributed to his struggles, but Goff played poorly and had a bad game. He’s part of the problem but he needs to be part of the solution.

 

[Mackeyser]

I see no fix for the oline this year.
It's time for McVay to start game plans featuring the dink and dunk.

Yep.

That doesn't mean they can't scheme around it, but it means actual doing that and McVay has been very reticent to acknowledge just how poorly the interior is playing.

This is a case where I'd love for him to bring in Jay Gruden as an offensive consultant. Just the fresh set of eyes would be helpful and it's not like he hasn't made an offense go with MUCH, MUCH less...

 

[Dodgersrf]

Yep.

That doesn't mean they can't scheme around it, but it means actual doing that and McVay has been very reticent to acknowledge just how poorly the interior is playing.

This is a case where I'd love for him to bring in Jay Gruden as an offensive consultant. Just the fresh set of eyes would be helpful and it's not like he hasn't made an offense go with MUCH, MUCH less...

We have the speed and talent to make it work.

We still need to get that ground game going as well.
We started off well with Brown today. I was scratching my head when we tried to force feed Henderson.
Why not keep calling Browns number?


I think bringing in Gruden is just what McVay needs right now.
Another set of trustworthy eyes could do wonders.

 

[payote75]

I mentioned 3 weeks ago when this team was once 3-0 that this team had the makings of being the type of team that could very easily lose 3 in a row. A lot of peeps jumped on me fact remains we have lost 3 in a row. To me I wasn't being negative then I was being realistic.

With that being said as down as we all are the offense has to much talent to look this bad. To me yes there are some holes in other areas on defense but none that can't be over come. It's really simple the offensive line is horrific. Even with this 6 man fronts and even if there was no Gurley as with most quarterbacks if goff had time we could still be chucking the ball and be okay with brown and Henderson. Unfortunately the line is killing any run game and is destroying goff he will really become Jim Everett reincarnated if this doesn't change.

Yes please try to get Trent Williams we need him this year and next year going into a new stadium but more importantly for goff or his career and contract along with gurneys will send us back to the St. Louis days of the mustache.

 

[fearsomefour]

Well, technically you're down if you're sitting, so it's not a forward pass...LOL

Also, can confirm, throwing a football from a seated position raises the level of difficulty substantially. 0/10 would recommend

Fact Check: TRUE

 

[fearsomefour]

Yep.

That doesn't mean they can't scheme around it, but it means actual doing that and McVay has been very reticent to acknowledge just how poorly the interior is playing.

This is a case where I'd love for him to bring in Jay Gruden as an offensive consultant. Just the fresh set of eyes would be helpful and it's not like he hasn't made an offense go with MUCH, MUCH less...

Annndddd weed is legal in Ca....so, it’s a good fit for Jay.

 

[yrba1]

I thought it was a home game. It was a sea of red.

The brokers who bought the season tickets would sell to anyone who offered the most $$$ the same way some companies like Nike would be complicit with letting the Chinese government impose their censorship outside of their country.

 

[MachS]

Have you ever thrown a football sitting in your ass?
It's not that easy

Our o line has been horrible, but guess what he's missing touchdowns every single week!! And not tight window throws you would expect the 1st overall pick to make, I'm talking about wide open, no defender for 10 yards and he either reads it late or he's inaccurate type throws.

How about you MAKE those throws to help out your shitty offensive line. How about after you make a good move in the pocket to avoid a rusher, you make an accurate throw and not bury it at the WRs feet!! This is the highest paid QB in the NFL is that too much to ask?

There was a 1st down play today where McVay called a play-action pass, their defense was in nickel and only had 5 people on the line of scrimmage. We were in 12 personnel, and they had 5 people in the box, and we didnt run the ball. Goff walked up to the line, peered out at the defense, and said yea lets throw into this look. THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE, either McVay doesn't give him full control at the line which is an issue. Or, Goff trusts McVay soooooooo much because he's a "genius," that he thinks everything called will work regardless of what HE'S SEEING WITH HIS EYES. I just dont understand some of his reads in the passing game or what the fuck he's looking at. Peyton and Tom win on so many downs because of what they do pre-snap. I feel like McVay and his offensive stranglehold has really stunted Goff's growth in terms of reading defenses, and this is why the System QB narrative started.

He doesn't do enough when things break down, he doesn't do enough under turmoil. He doesn't SHOW ANY FUCKING PASSION and Im sick of that. He's playing like one of the worst QBs in the league, got his shit pushed in all SB long, and has the same nonchalant, indifferent attitude. I've played D1 sports and have friends in MLB, and I have NEVER in my life seen an elite player with that type of attitude. The best players let failure fuel them and respond like winners, and Goff just isn't wired like that.

 

[payote75]

The jets might be having a fire sale as well. Osemele would be a good get just don't think that would be someone they move cause they need bodies to protect there young qb.

In a perfect world if it were possible I'd want two players Trent freakin Williams and geno atkins. If I need to pick one I have to go hands down Williams.

 

[Mackeyser]

The brokers who bought the season tickets would sell to anyone who offered the most $$$ the same way some companies like Nike would be complicit with letting the Chinese government impose their censorship outside of their country.

For the mods, I'll just pass that last part and...skip...

As for the ticket situation, they should have names on them. They should reclassify them as "passes" or something where if you don't use it, you lose it.

If you're taking someone to the game, you have to change the name in an app or at the ticket counter and show ID. Otherwise the ticket is forfeit. Also, the person who owns the PSL or season ticket should have to enter first in order to prevent a pretty easy work around. Would it solve everything? No, but rules could be put in place such that anyone who clearly is simply walking brokered people in would forfeit all of their tickets with no refund.

Obviously, unsold tickets could be bought by anyone, but it'd remove the economic incentive to resell.

Point being that they should do SOMETHING.

You could say win, but winning only make the ticket more valuable and thus creates greater incentive to sell.

 

[Mackeyser]

The jets might be having a fire sale as well. Osemele would be a good get just don't think that would be someone they move cause they need bodies to protect there young qb.

In a perfect world if it were possible I'd want two players Trent freakin Williams and geno atkins. If I need to pick one I have to go hands down Williams.

I think after the Jets win, they're going to hold off on any fire sale.

 

[payote75]

Our o line has been horrible, but guess what he's missing touchdowns every single week!! And not tight window throws you would expect the 1st overall pick to make, I'm talking about wide open, no defender for 10 yards and he either reads it late or he's inaccurate type throws.

How about you MAKE those throws to help out your shitty offensive line. How about after you make a good move in the pocket to avoid a rusher, you make an accurate throw and not bury it at the WRs feet!! This is the highest paid player in the NFL is that too much to ask??

There was a 1st down play today where McVay called a play-action pass, their defense was in nickel and only had 5 people on the line of scrimmage. We were in 12 personnel, and they had 5 people in the box, and we didnt run the ball. Goff walked up to the line, peered out at the defense, and said yea lets throw into this look. THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE, either McVay doesn't give him full control at the line which is an issue. Or, Goff trusts McVay soooooooo much because he's a "genius," that he thinks everything called will work regardless of what HE'S SEEING WITH HIS EYES. I just dont understand some of his reads in the passing game or what the fuck he's looking at. Peyton and Tom win on so many downs because of what they do pre-snap. I feel like McVay and his offensive stranglehold has really stunted Goff's growth all around, and this is why the System QB narrative started.

He doesn't do enough when things break down, he doesn't do enough under turmoil. He doesn't SHOW ANY FUCKING PASSION and Im sick of that. He's playing like one of the worst QBs in the league, got his shit pushed in all SB long, and has the same nonchalant, indifferent attitude. I've played D1 sports and have friends in the MLB, and I have NEVER in my life seen an elite player with that type of attitude. The best players let failure fuel them and respond like winners, and Goff just isn't wired like that.

I agree with a lot of what your saying but truly it's thought to read and react in 2-3 seconds even when there is no pressure because half your brain is just getting accustomed to pressure coming inevitably making you miss throws open throws under throw etc. that's why it's crucial the Rams fix this and fix it quick. Once a qb's internal clock gets screwed up and he starts to see ghosts that's when it's really hard to come back from it. This is a crucial pivotal time in this new regime. Just remember I've been on goff too but when he did have the time he made a lot of these throws with ease. Again clock goes ghost pressure happy feet it ruins a qb see David Carr.

 

[Mackeyser]

I agree with a lot of what your saying but truly it's thought to read and react in 2-3 seconds even when there is no pressure because half your brain is just getting accustomed to pressure coming inevitably making you miss throws open throws under throw etc. that's why it's crucial the Rams fix this and fix it quick. Once a qb's internal clock gets screwed up and he starts to see ghosts that's when it's really hard to come back from it. This is a crucial pivotal time in this new regime. Just remember I've been on goff too but when he did have the time he made a lot of these throws with ease. Again clock goes ghost pressure happy feet it ruins a qb see David Carr.

Was thinking the same thing and even referencing the same guy... 4 sacks a game is 64 sacks a season... that's a crazy amount.

 

[payote75]

I think after the Jets win, they're going to hold off on any fire sale.

I thought the same thing but saw it tonight on sny insider says they want to build under the new regime. Who really knows ....what I do know is my week is going to suck.

 

[Mackeyser]

Is Osemele playing well?

The Raiders took a $10.2M cap hit (his salary was $10.5M) to send him to the Jets. Dunno what the compensation was, but yeah. That's a huge cap hit to take on an OL.

His salary in 2020 is $11.7M so unless he's really playing super, he's super not worth it.

Also, not sure how we'd work such a trade...

 

[MachS]

I agree with a lot of what your saying but truly it's thought to read and react in 2-3 seconds even when there is no pressure because half your brain is just getting accustomed to pressure coming inevitably making you miss throws open throws under throw etc. that's why it's crucial the Rams fix this and fix it quick. Once a qb's internal clock gets screwed up and he starts to see ghosts that's when it's really hard to come back from it. This is a crucial pivotal time in this new regime. Just remember I've been on goff too but when he did have the time he made a lot of these throws with ease. Again clock goes ghost pressure happy feet it ruins a qb see David Carr.

Dude I completely agree with you, but if that's the case and Goff does have these issues then why pay him the huge contract if you're not 100% sure yet? The o-line is the root cause of our issues, but your franchise QB needs to help alleviate some of those issues with his playmaking ability, and that has not happened.

Honestly to me it's more of an organizational failure that falls on Snead and McVay. 3 complete years of data, 2 with McVay, show that Goff is bottom 25% league when throwing under pressure. Why in the world would you let Saffold walk? Why in the world would you not use a high pick on OL? Why has it been 6 weeks and Les still hasn't traded away picks/players for an stud OL? This o-line risk we took was incredibly stupid because Goff's good years he's had protection and a great running game. How do you protect and have a consistent running game with a shitty o-line? Such a stupid move by us.

 

[MachS]

I thought it was a home game. It was a sea of red.

I paused the game at one point to really look at it. To me it seemed 80% niner fans.. so insane

 

[Mackeyser]

Dude I completely agree with you, but if that's the case and Goff does have these issues then why pay him the huge contract if you're not 100% sure yet? The o-line is the root cause of our issues, but your franchise QB needs to help alleviate some of those issues with his playmaking ability, and that has not happened.

Honestly to me it's more of an organizational failure that falls on Snead and McVay. 3 complete years of data, 2 with McVay, show that Goff is bottom 25% league when throwing under pressure. Why in the world would you let Saffold walk? Why in the world would you not use a high pick on OL? Why has it been 6 weeks and Les still hasn't traded away picks/players for an stud OL? This o-line risk we took was incredibly stupid because Goff's good years he's had protection and a great running game. How do you protect and have a consistent running game with a shitty o-line? Such a stupid move by us.

I don't think they make this mistake again.