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[Merlin]

Player like Burden needs to know who the boss is. Well played by Johnson.

 

[PARAM]

I get the thought process ... it makes sense ... but by that logic, wouldn't things have worked-out differently for ... say ... Josh McDaniels?

Some guys command a room ... some don't. I mean, @Loyal walks into a room ... and you want to punch him.

I think there is a world of difference between a coordinator and head coach.

And ... Personally, I have no current opinion on Ben Johnson as a head coach. As I wrote above, I thought he was a tremendous Offensive Coordinator, and I'm very interested in how he does as a Head Coach.

By what logic?

McDaniels didn't fail because of a lack of respect. He failed because he wasn't head coaching material. And that may be because he was an underling of Bill I Control Everything Belichick. I can't think of many Belichick assistant coaches who went on to have success.

 

[dieterbrock]

We fo t however know if those two did or didn't do anything to warrant that or if McVay would have acted the same way.

Also I'm fine with this from Johnson, his biggest thing is to build a culture and the 2nd year franchise QB and a WR the position know the most as being divas seem like 2 good people to do this with. Jury is of course still out but if I were a Bears fan this would be welcome to me.

All true, I just think that McVay kept/keeps everything in house

 

[dieterbrock]

I can't think of many Belichick assistant coaches who went on to have success.

I think Brian Flores might have been successful if he didnt get screwed in Miami and then doubling down by screwing himself with that lawsuit

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

All of these mentions of Belichick are making me nauseous.

 

[Allen2McVay]

By what logic?

I was addressing your point that Johnson's prior success had earned him the respect of the Bears' players'
Your quote ...
'He designed an offense that has been top 5 in both points and yards the last three years and it's earned him a head coaching job. That ought to be enough to earn respect from everybody on that field'

The Logic being that ... An outstanding and successful coordinator should be a quality head coach.

Logical but not always the case.

McDaniels ... failed because he wasn't head coaching material.

Why was he not 'head coaching material'?
We can only speculate as to Why that is.

Hence the simple observation that some outstanding / successful coordinators succeed, while others fail.
... and ...
... that makes Ben Johnson and the Bears an interesting 2025 NFL story, in my opinion.

 

[Psycho_X]

Huh very i teresting. Maybe people will stop writing an OT off as not good because of arm length.


View: https://x.com/McShay13/status/1950281231909683624?s=19

Arm length is nice but give me quick feet, solid base, and ability to keep their pads low and I don't care if they got alligator arms.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Arm length is nice but give me quick feet, solid base and I don't care if they got alligator arms.

OK ... now we know what physical qualities you value in a woman ... but we're talking football here!

 

[Merlin]

I think Brian Flores might have been successful if he didnt get screwed in Miami and then doubling down by screwing himself with that lawsuit

Agreed. I love him as a DC, one of my favorites in how he runs a unit. In fact if I was an owner looking for a head coach he'd be my first interview and not because he's a black dude. I like old school leaders. I would have a coach who puts foot in ass when necessary, instead of wringing his fucking hands about it. So he's high on my list, unfortunately for him I cannot afford an NFL team.

McDaniels didn't fail because of a lack of respect. He failed because he wasn't head coaching material.

Unnecessary splitting of hairs there I'd say. As after all one tends to accompany the other.

 

[PARAM]

I was addressing your point that Johnson's prior success had earned him the respect of the Bears' players'
Your quote ...
'He designed an offense that has been top 5 in both points and yards the last three years and it's earned him a head coaching job. That ought to be enough to earn respect from everybody on that field'

The Logic being that ... An outstanding and successful coordinator should be a quality head coach.

Logical but not always the case.


Why was he not 'head coaching material'?
We can only speculate as to Why that is.

Hence the simple observation that some outstanding / successful coordinators succeed, while others fail.
... and ...
... that makes Ben Johnson and the Bears an interesting 2025 NFL story, in my opinion.

Apple and oranges..

The logic being.....from what he did as an OC, the players should respect that. Of course the logic NFL owners and GMs go by is "he was a very successful coordinator, therefore, he should be a very successful head coach".
And we both know that's more a theory, than how it actually works.

I was talking about respect. You're talking about success. Two different things.

So why wasn't McDaniel successful? I don't know but he wasn't.

 

[PARAM]

He didnt do all that in the first 2 weeks of his first TC though

No kidding?

Johnson rode Caleb last week, this week it's Burden

Johnson rode Caleb last week, this week it's Burden. Sounds a lot like coaching to me.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Still not an accurate reflection of his production unless it's an 8 team league. Guy was top end of the league in production with a rookie QB and no real #2.

I can't remember how the rankings ended last year. i think it was like WR13, so he's higher than they project him, but they might be factoring in risers from last year and him not having competition for targets and all those things. But it's fantasy football so it's just fancy gambling anyway.

 

[kurtfaulk]

He didnt do all that in the first 2 weeks of his first TC though
Johnson rode Caleb last week, this week it's Burden

Yeah, but Martz rode Warner hard. That turned out alright.

.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Ah. ok.
I thought the article was suggesting $23m/per for a fringe REAL starting WR was good business.

These WR contracts have gotten out of hand.

Oh no haha. Although you're still correct. Puka is probably gonna make 40 million per year when his time comes.

 

[PARAM]

He didnt do all that in the first 2 weeks of his first TC though

No. It took him years to tear Goff down, then not have the ability to build him back up again.

Johnson rode Caleb last week, this week it's Burden

That sounds a lot like coaching to me. Next week it'll probably be somebody else.

 

[David Ray]

No kidding?

Johnson rode Caleb last week, this week it's Burden. Sounds a lot like coaching to me.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7NQYTZbIAo

 

[RamFan503]

I was addressing your point that Johnson's prior success had earned him the respect of the Bears' players'
Your quote ...
'He designed an offense that has been top 5 in both points and yards the last three years and it's earned him a head coaching job. That ought to be enough to earn respect from everybody on that field'

The Logic being that ... An outstanding and successful coordinator should be a quality head coach.

Logical but not always the case.


Why was he not 'head coaching material'?
We can only speculate as to Why that is.

Hence the simple observation that some outstanding / successful coordinators succeed, while others fail.
... and ...
... that makes Ben Johnson and the Bears an interesting 2025 NFL story, in my opinion.

I'm not sure all that is the point. Johnson is the head coach - PERIOD. And as a player (especially a first or second year player) whether you agree with him, think he lacks HC material, think you know best, don't want to do what he asks, whatever... He's the HC. You should respect the position. He didn't just fall out of bed and become a head coach. Most have spent years - sometimes decades working to get to that point. Get your punk ass in line and do what the HC says. If it doesn't work and you actually tried your best, it's his ass on the line and he'll be fired.

Now granted, this doesn't mean if the HC is asking you to do something ridiculously out of line or against the rules, you should just do it. But I'm guessing this is not the case. Both Caleb and Burden have had rumors of immaturity and/or ego issues around them that would make you wonder how coachable or team oriented they would be.

 

[OldSchool]

All true, I just think that McVay kept/keeps everything in house

Possibly, McVay may have done it in a locker room/office type thing. But if it happens on field in an open practice then not much he can do about it. McVay may have a cooler head and not done this as obviously in the open.

 

[fanotodd]

Oh no haha. Although you're still correct. Puka is probably gonna make 40 million per year when his time comes.

I believe you are gonna be right.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I get the thought process ... it makes sense ... but by that logic, wouldn't things have worked-out differently for ... say ... Josh McDaniels?

Some guys command a room ... some don't. I mean, @Loyal walks into a room ... and you want to punch him.

I think there is a world of difference between a coordinator and head coach.

And ... Personally, I have no current opinion on Ben Johnson as a head coach. As I wrote above, I thought he was a tremendous Offensive Coordinator, and I'm very interested in how he does as a Head Coach.

I started swinging wildly once I read "Loyal". I hope that old lady who's dentures I knocked out is alright with me using her walker to catch my balance after awakening from that "crazed zone". Sheesh