2024 Dodgers thread

[RamFan503]

I was shocked when they let Yamamoto take the mound in the 8th.
Even with a sizable lead, it’s not a Dodger move.

Yep. I looked up to see that Yamamoto was still pitching into the 8th. Happily surprised.

 

[Rams8821]

Yep. I looked up to see that Yamamoto was still pitching into the 8th. Happily surprised.

I thought he could have went 9. He only pitches every 6th day. Onto SD....

 

[OldSchool]

I don't get why we would want him out there for the 9th. We've had what 11 pitchers on the DL so far this year? He's pitching great has a big lead imo there's no reason for him to pitch the 9th.

 

[RamFan503]

I don't get why we would want him out there for the 9th. We've had what 11 pitchers on the DL so far this year? He's pitching great has a big lead imo there's no reason for him to pitch the 9th.

Yeah. I get that. It was just nice to see him get past 6 for me. But to see him still pitching into the 8th made me feel he was really starting to get his groove on. I'm not suggesting he should be doing that all the time or that I want to see him going 9 a bunch of times but he was on 95 pitches in the 8th when I looked and IIRR 100 pitches was always a mark you would look for. He was being very efficient in that game. 97 pitches and 73 of them were strikes. I wonder what a normal outing for Yams would be. Y'know.... what kind of pitch count we can expect.

 

[OldSchool]

Yeah. I get that. It was just nice to see him get past 6 for me. But to see him still pitching into the 8th made me feel he was really starting to get his groove on. I'm not suggesting he should be doing that all the time or that I want to see him going 9 a bunch of times but he was on 95 pitches in the 8th when I looked and IIRR 100 pitches was always a mark you would look for. He was being very efficient in that game. 97 pitches and 73 of them were strikes. I wonder what a normal outing for Yams would be. Y'know.... what kind of pitch count we can expect.

For me I'm all for them pitching less now if it keeps them healthy and pitching well in the playoffs. A 9th inning in May is meaningless if he's not available in October and November.

 

[RamFan503]

For me I'm all for them pitching less now if it keeps them healthy and pitching well in the playoffs. A 9th inning in May is meaningless if he's not available in October and November.

True. And it's hard to trust Roberts on his pitcher decisions sometimes.

 

[OldSchool]

True. And it's hard to trust Roberts on his pitcher decisions sometimes.

Robert's for me is a non factor. He's given lets call it a chart on what to do when. It's Friedman pulling the strings, he dictates things by analytics. Robert's might decide a player over another but he's given guidance on how to do things. We really don't have a manager in the true sense of the word anymore.

I think that said baseball is in for another shift very soon. The spin rate and the rest of what they push pitchers for is bad for arms and to me isn't sustainable. Add to that the pitch clock doesn't allow for a pitcher to chill things out and catch a breath sometimes. I think we're hurting the game right now.

 

[Dodgersrf]

The Dodgers don’t like to give hitters more than 3 at bats against the same pitcher.
In many cases, it’s only 2.


I would have had no problem with Yamamoto pitching 9 innings. He was still very effective and efficient. He wasn’t laboring at all.
His health wasn’t in jeapordy IMO.

 

[snackdaddy]

I think that said baseball is in for another shift very soon. The spin rate and the rest of what they push pitchers for is bad for arms and to me isn't sustainable. Add to that the pitch clock doesn't allow for a pitcher to chill things out and catch a breath sometimes. I think we're hurting the game right now.

You would think the fast ball puts more pressure on arms but spinning that ball is what does most damage. The freshman baseball coach my kid played for once said he didn't want kids that age damaging arms throwing curves and other types of spin. He taught them fast ball techniques, straight change ups and sinkers.

 

[snackdaddy]

Yeah. I get that. It was just nice to see him get past 6 for me. But to see him still pitching into the 8th made me feel he was really starting to get his groove on. I'm not suggesting he should be doing that all the time or that I want to see him going 9 a bunch of times but he was on 95 pitches in the 8th when I looked and IIRR 100 pitches was always a mark you would look for. He was being very efficient in that game. 97 pitches and 73 of them were strikes. I wonder what a normal outing for Yams would be. Y'know.... what kind of pitch count we can expect.

After a rough start in Korea he's really found his groove. His ERA was something like 45 after that first game. Now its 2.79. His array of pitches and the command is impressive. Now I see why he was in such demand. We're pretty lucky to have him and Ohtani.

 

[OldSchool]

You would think the fast ball puts more pressure on arms but spinning that ball is what does most damage. The freshman baseball coach my kid played for once said he didn't want kids that age damaging arms throwing curves and other types of spin. He taught them fast ball techniques, straight change ups and sinkers.

They're different pressures but both do damage but yeah the people I read say the spin is worse by far.

 

[Tano]

They're different pressures but both do damage but yeah the people I read say the spin is worse by far.

When I was a kid, my dad specifically told my brother and I to never throw any curves.

Of course we didn't listen.

 

[snackdaddy]

They're different pressures but both do damage but yeah the people I read say the spin is worse by far.

We're seeing a lot more pitchers touching 100mph or better. And a lot more arms needing repair. I gotta think throwing that hard has something to do with it too.

 

[RamFan503]

Looks like Outman is heading down and Vargas is coming in. Mookie maybe heading to center field?

 

[snackdaddy]

Nice outing from Buehler. 6 inning. 3 hits. No runs allowed. Good to see. If he returns to form we could have the best rotation in the league with Glasnow, Yamamoto, Paxton and Buehler. Looks like Stone is starting to be a solid pitcher too. And more depth coming later with Kershaw and Gonsolin. Not sure about May. I'm thinking it would be better for him to wait till next year.

 

[Classic Rams]

Happy I stayed up for last night's game. I'm usually asleep by 9 or 10 but stuck it out to see Shohei's game winning hit. Ever since I got my new cable subscription last Dec ($24/mo for 1000s of channels) I've been catching most of the Dodger games. Most I've seen - and I never watched spring training until this year - since 1988. The Dodgers Spectrum channel is wonderful. Love it.

 

[Dodgersrf]

We're seeing a lot more pitchers touching 100mph or better. And a lot more arms needing repair. I gotta think throwing that hard has something to do with it too.

Yeah.
It’s not just pitchers either.
There are younger players, in all positions that get Tommy John Surgery.

 

[Dodgersrf]

Nice outing from Buehler. 6 inning. 3 hits. No runs allowed. Good to see. If he returns to form we could have the best rotation in the league with Glasnow, Yamamoto, Paxton and Buehler. Looks like Stone is starting to be a solid pitcher too. And more depth coming later with Kershaw and Gonsolin. Not sure about May. I'm thinking it would be better for him to wait till next year.

That showing by Buehler was very promising.
Good to see him back

 

[Mackeyser]

You would think the fast ball puts more pressure on arms but spinning that ball is what does most damage. The freshman baseball coach my kid played for once said he didn't want kids that age damaging arms throwing curves and other types of spin. He taught them fast ball techniques, straight change ups and sinkers.

When I was in Little League back in the Dark Ages... it was illegal to throw a curve and if you did, the batter would be granted 1st base.

Funny thing for me is that when I pitched, I naturally pronated inside... so I threw a natural screwball. Movement would be slightly inside and down, but since it wasn't a curve and I came over the top, I didn't get beef from the Ump. But sometimes kids when they got tired would bring their arm angle down and the hand would naturally drop, making it a de facto curve even if it didn't really move. To their credit, the Umps were very consistent... if they saw that spin, they'd jump on it.

I can't imagine the damage of a high torque curve on a 13-15 year old arm... I over did it... pitched and played team tennis and permanently messed up my arm even as I was on track to play HS ball... I always hit over .400 and I didn't have glasses... yet my vision was 20-200 in one eye and 20-400 in the other. When I first got glasses as a Senior in HS, my first words were literally, "this is bullshit. You mean people see like this all the time?"

 

[Mackeyser]

I've watched nearly every Dodger game recap from MLB or the Dodger YT channel. I refuse to watch the AI generated highlight channels. Made that mistake once, but it's easy to make since those highlight vids are up hours before MLB which is up before the Dodger vid is. Once I'm moved, I plan to get the MLB package or whatever to stream Dodger games.

I haven't enjoyed watching baseball this much, even just the recaps, in decades. But I promised myself if the Dodgers got Ohtani, I'd start and dang this team is just FUN to watch.

Solid pitching and dominant hitting... and some real aces set to come back in the next few months... this team could be a juggernaut. I mean... can you imagine the rotation in the playoffs of Glasnow, Kershaw, and Yamamoto with Stone and Paxton capable of quality starts... That's an INSANE amount of quality pitching...

Great time to be a Dodger fan, for sure!