2022 WR Room - Thoughts & Future

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Being that everyone is in good spirits I've decided that I'll be going through every major position group this off-season. I figured the WR group would be an interesting one to go through since it's had such a high turnover rate this season due to injuries. I'll only be including starters and not practice squad players.

Ben Skowronek - 6'-3" 225lbs ST / WR -
Rookie grade: C+
A 2021 7th round draft pick out of Notre Dame. Slated to be a pure special teamer this off-season, he however got his shot when players like Woods went down and OBJ was getting acclimated to the Rams offense. He had some moments or flashes of what he could bring to our offense when given the chance. A big bodied strong WR at the point of attack. If you watch his tape at Notre Dame he flourished in the RedZone due to his size and skill of highpointing the ball.
I know some are down on skow but being a ST and given very limited practice time I think he has a bright future w the Rams. We have to remember where he was drafted, what his situation was this year and how he was thrown into the deep end. I could see him putting on ten pounds and becoming more of a hybrid TE/WR RedZone threat. Game just has to slow down for him.

Tutu Atwell - 5'-9" 165lbs - WR
Rookie Grade: N/A
A second round pick out of Louisville. A college standout as a sophomore with over 1200 yards and 12TDs in 11 of 13 games. He biggest question mark is his size. Can someone that weighs barely more than a prepubescent middle schooler make it in the NFL? If history has shown us anything it's an emphatic no. While the jury is still out on this 2nd round pick due to an early season ending injury he's already off to a rough start. The only film I did see of him was in preseason and from a basic eye test he did not look like a special player to me. However, we have to be careful in writing off players that we haven't given a fair chance to. Example Jamar Chase. He looked awful in camp and in preseason, and many fans were already declaring a bust. We all know how he turned out.
My main question for Atwell is how will mcVay use him? Will he be a gadget type of player? Taking over a Tavon Austin type of role? Or is he going to be more of a burner that clears out defenses? I'm leaning towards the first of the two. If you go back to watch his tape the kid can clearly play but as we've seen with so many of these type of fringe or tween players they often get lost in the mix because they cannot be full contributors. Clearly mcVay has a plan for him or he could be a complete bust. With the addition of OBJ and Powell being a good kick returner tutu could be nothing more than overdrafted 2nd rounder. Ouch. Time will tell.

Van Jefferson - 6'-1" 200lbs - WR
Second year grade: B+
A second round pick in 2020 entering his 3rd year w the Rams as the #3 WR. After completing his biggest year with the Rams having over 800 yards and 6 TDs he showed flashes of his crisp route running and speed on the outside taking multiple TDs to the house. My biggest question mark for Van is his ability to beat man coverage. While he's a great 3rd WR option I fear this is all he will ever be if he doesn't learn to become stronger at the point of attack. He often disappears in games but to be fair he is the 3rd option and often gets lost in the mix. I think everyone expects him to get better being WRs often take 3 to 5 years to peak at the position. If he does continue to improve he will eventually take over the No. 2 spot, as woods and OBJ will eventually age out, the Rams will need to be prepared to have their replacement.

Woods and OBJ - #2 WR
Grade: A-
So I decided to put these two in the same category because I view them as both equally skilled but two completely different WRs. Woods as more of the utility WR that does everything well and OBJ as the skilled deep threat with glue for hands. Both have great route running skills and mesh very well with what the Rams want to accomplish on offense. I think brining them both back is a must. However there is a caveat that needs to be discussed. Hypothetically if the Rams bring both back, woods and OBJ will probably miss a lot of training camp. Woods might be 100% around the start of preseason but ACLs take about a full year to recover from. Not to mention reinjury is a possibility. OBJ probably will not be back until week 4 or 6 at best if he doesn't have any setbacks. Which means Stafford and the Rams will again have to deal with reshuffling next year in the WR room. So how do the Rams make this work? As of right now I do not have an answer on this. Not every player is Akers and comes back full strength 6 months after a Achilles tear.
This will take some creativity from the Rams FO and some luck. But in a perfect world if we can have Kupp, Woods and OBJ running our base 11 personnel. Watch out NFL you've been put on notice.

Kupp - #1 WR
Grade: GOAT
What more can you say about Kupp? He's accomplished something that's never been done before in the NFL.
OPOY
Superbowl MVP
Triple crown winner
Jerry rice was able to achieve these accolades throughout his ENTIRE career. Kupp was able to do it in one season. He's the real MVP and no one can dispute that.


This off-season will be an interesting one for the Rams. They will have 40+ mil come off the books for Goff, Gurely, and Brockers. While some of that cap will be used to extend players and sign some new FAs. The Rams are in pretty good shape as it sits right now for 2022. The future is bright.
 
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Very good post @Jacobarch
Woods and OBJ - #2 WR
Grade: A-
So I decided to put these two in the same category because I view them as both equally skilled but two completely different WRs. Woods as more of the utility WR that does everything well and OBJ as the skilled deep threat with glue for hands. Both have great route running skills and mesh very well with what the Rams want to accomplish on offense. I think brining them both back is a must. However there is a caveat that needs to be discussed. Hypothetically if the Rams bring both back, woods and OBJ will probably miss a lot of training camp. Woods might be 100% around the start of preseason but ACLs take about a full year to recover from. Not to mention reinjury is a possibility. OBJ probably will not be back until week 4 or 6 at best if he doesn't have any setbacks. Which means Stafford and the Rams will again have to deal with reshuffling next year in the WR room. So how do the Rams make this work? As of right now I do not have an answer on this. Not every player is Akers and comes back full strength 6 months after a Achilles tear.
This will take some creativity from the Rams FO and some luck. But in a perfect world if we can have Kupp, Woods and OBJ running our base 11 personnel. Watch out NFL you've been put on notice.

I hadn't thought of the recovery times for Woods and OBJ which could be the Akers bias. I'm all for keeping both. I doubt Rams would trade Woods and another team sign a rehabbing OBJ. I was thinking Jefferson could be traded but, the Rams will need him until the other two get on the field. I know it's not a TE discussion but, having Higbee back will give Stafford a reliable target with Kupp and Jefferson.

Benny Skow will be around for Teams and his blocking. I'm hoping he can become a little more reliable with his hands. It could be he wasn't used to the speed of Stafford's throws and can improve with a full year under his belt. I think he remains a big WR. Tutu needs to stay healthy. I think he can be an asset with his speed. Even in the preseason defenses respected his speed even though the Rams didn't send him deep. I want to see him go deep in the preseason coming up.

The passing game is the strength of this offense. The Rams should keep that together. Kupp, Woods, OBJ and Jefferson together with Stafford will keep the Rams in the hunt at least another year. Having this amount of depth will be great insurance should injury strike again. Continuing to develop TuTu and Benny Skow will also be important.
 

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I believe with OBj on the IR list, our WR room will look just like at the beginning of 2021, minus DeSean Jackson.
When OBj returns, some adjustments will be made for our drive to repeat in the 2022 Super Bowl. jmo.
 

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Yea I think we re-sign OBJ for a cheap one year deal.

Really bummed for him, but may actually allow us to keep him.

Harris factors in here too - expect Atwell to make a small jump. Hopefully he beats out Van next year
 

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I have no hope for Atwell because he is just too small and is going to get hurt every year in the first few games when DBs lay the smack on him

Otherwise I do think he has some talent.

But you have to be on the field to showcase it and as this year showed, he couldn't be on the field much.

After 5 big hits this year, he was done.
 

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If I'm being as objective as possible grading I see this for next year...

A++ =Kupp - Mr. Goat.

B+ = Woods - Will be back by week 1 and as good as ever because I know he's attacking rehab the same way Kupp did in 2018. Will be a good WR2 and his usual gadget player with run attempts, jet sweeps, and blocking for running backs.

B = OBJ - Will be back by December and will serve our main redzone threat much like he did the back half of this season. Perfect WR3.

B- = VJ - Will still get the occasional deep crosser and go route. Has to show me something more to convince me he deserves a second contract here though. Has to get more aggressive towards the ball.

C- = Big Ben - serviceable wr4/5 serving mostly as a special teams ace. He will excel in this role but don't expect much else.

D- = Tutu - No idea, has to prove he can hack it with his frame. When he was healthy didn't show anything really. If OBJ doesn't tear his ACL I'm not sure this dude makes the team next season barring a huge step up. With his speed he has the chance to be a fun player to watch but I have to see it in a real game first.

N/A = Harris - Got to include Jacob Harris in this talk I think. He's not going to be a TE. Huge ceiling if he puts in the work. Has to develop his aggressiveness playing the ball and improve his hands. But this dude has the ability to be a huge baller. He's the kind of player Stafford would throw bombs to all game long if he can show he can play the ball. But got even less playtime during regular season than Tutu had and is extremely raw. So just can't give him a respectable grade yet.

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C = Powell - Brandon Powell came in and took that return job like a boss. He is sure handed, he is fast, he is decisive where to go. This guy is the reason Tutu needs to come to training camp and ball out because Powell has taken his only perceived job for next season... if we resign him. He offers nothing in the receiving game though so he's graded as a C strictly because of his return ability. Tutu needs to show more as either a receiver or a return man to beat this guy out for a roster spot imo.
 

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I believe with OBj on the IR list, our WR room will look just like at the beginning of 2021, minus DeSean Jackson.
When OBj returns, some adjustments will be made for our drive to repeat in the 2022 Super Bowl. jmo.
Agreed. I think they'll probably bring in an FA WR or at least one later in the draft. We're gonna need some depth at the position until they are healthy
 

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I would love to see Big Ben and Harris spend the offseason working with guys like Kupp and Woods to learn to hone their craft. Granted, their skillsets and physical makeup is different than Kupp and Woods, but they can still learn a shit ton from them. Oh, and VJ too for that matter. He can still get better. Look at Kupp - yes, he started out pretty good already, but it's beyond debate that he's gotten better every year he's been with us.
 

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Tutu is an x factor.. but his speed is very much needed for this corps next year. Don't let him return the ball, though. Tell that kid to get down before getting hit, too.

Returner is a big Q for me.. Powell just gave the season a HUGE shot of energy.
 

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I would think Allen Robinson would be a good add in FA if he were willing to take a cheap 1 yr prove it deal. We can possibly attract him with a chance at a ring with a pay bump for the following season with another team lol.....not sure if Van Jefferson is more than a ok #3 WR. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, just want to add to the WR room because if anything were to happen to Kupp or Woods, we'd be in a bad spot offensively unless Van Jefferson takes a major leap that I'm just not necessarily seeing quite yet.
 

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I would think Allen Robinson would be a good add in FA if he were willing to take a cheap 1 yr prove it deal. We can possibly attract him with a chance at a ring with a pay bump for the following season with another team lol.....not sure if Van Jefferson is more than a ok #3 WR. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, just want to add to the WR room because if anything were to happen to Kupp or Woods, we'd be in a bad spot offensively unless Van Jefferson takes a major leap that I'm just not necessarily seeing quite yet.
Robinson, to me, is an example of a guy who is absolutely NOT going to take any kind of cheap deal. He's made some money.. but not a shit ton.. and he's an actual commodity, despite last season's numbers.
 

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Robinson, to me, is an example of a guy who is absolutely NOT going to take any kind of cheap deal. He's made some money.. but not a shit ton.. and he's an actual commodity, despite last season's numbers.
Yeah, but I'm hoping teams low ball him to sign because of last year, but as last year's FA proved, there is someone always willing to pay far beyond what I thought was a good deal for some WRs. That's why I hope he'd be willing to take a cheaper prove it deal with incentives with the lure of winning, but that depends how much he's willing to sacrifice to do so. I trust McVay (who I believe will be back) and Snead will not sit tight with our current WRs so I trust whoever they target.
 

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Kupp is the man who will lead this group, praying he’s healthy and plays for another 5-7 years and retires as a Ram.

Woods is still going to need some time at the beginning of the year, really don’t expect to see him fully recovered before November.

VJ will need to step up at the beginning of the year barring the Rams bringing in another player to fill the #2 role. Spending the whole offseason in Kupp’s gym might be his only chance.

Harris will not see time maybe at all next year.

Skow needs to step up and make the Juggs machine his best friend. Probably #3 to begin the year.

Atwell is a pipe dream and a wasted second round pick. He is never going to be an NFL player.

Beckham might be a sentimental signing but he probably isn’t playing next season. If he does it might be for a playoff run. I could see him on an incentive laced deal for 2 years.

Allen Robinson could fill a need and make some of these fringe guys expendable.
 

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"Atwell is a pipe dream and a wasted second round pick. He is never going to be an NFL player."

Right now even after our SB56 WIN, gotta agree with you. I don't follow every draft prospect, draft this and that etc etc yet never saw where he suddenly jumped out from. Valuable pick. Amazed we were able to afford a "pickle".
 

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Just rewatched the superbowl and we really need obj back because van is a big step backwards.

After obj went down, van ran a deep route to the endzone and Stafford pointed to the roof with his left arm saying jump ball but van just over ran the ball, made no adjustment to come back to the ball and didn't even jump for the ball while the DB tracked and played the pass much better. The rams were lucky that the db proved the cliché that he's a db because he can't be a receiver.

But that was van's game all night. He has no fight for 50/50 passes. If it doesn't land nicely in his his hands in stride, forget about about it. He's basically a larger, slower, tavon Austin with a slightly bigger radius.

If I'm working out receivers at colleges, I'm bringing Ramsey with me and running alot of routes where I make the receiver have to fight for jump balls.

Sure, you want to see how they run routes, but I think you need to purposely see how they are in jump ball situations.
 

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Just rewatched the superbowl and we really need obj back because van is a big step backwards.

After obj went down, van ran a deep route to the endzone and Stafford pointed to the roof with his left arm saying jump ball but van just over ran the ball, made no adjustment to come back to the ball and didn't even jump for the ball while the DB tracked and played the pass much better. The rams were lucky that the db proved the cliché that he's a db because he can't be a receiver.

But that was van's game all night. He has no fight for 50/50 passes. If it doesn't land nicely in his his hands in stride, forget about about it. He's basically a larger, slower, tavon Austin with a slightly bigger radius.

If I'm working out receivers at colleges, I'm bringing Ramsey with me and running alot of routes where I make the receiver have to fight for jump balls.

Sure, you want to see how they run routes, but I think you need to purposely see how they are in jump ball situations.
Van is a great guy and has some value as a WR. But right now is become clear his inability to locate, adjust and fight for balls is a problem. It just is not a good match with Stafford and his deep ball in my opinion.
 

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Keep in mind while discussing Van, his ranking amongst WR in the league last year (as a #3 WR mind you)
Receptions: 50 (#48)
Yards: 802 (#36)
TD rec: 6 (t#18)
Yards per rec: 16.0 (#6)
1st down rec: 32 (#43)
1st down per rec: 64% (t#18)
Overall, pretty damn good numbers for a 2nd year guy, who's the #3 WR option
Sure he has some growing to do, that's why he got a 4 year contract.
 

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Deff bring back OBJ and bobby trees ain't going anywhere. I personally think we should think, if Hopkins main problem is his blocking, why not make him a wr and find a traditional tight end in the draft? He showed good hands, and the big stage wasn't too big for him. Hate to see possible wasted talent.

If we bring back obj, and keep everyone we have, I see more important positions that need to be addressed.
 

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I hope OBJ is back but he may not be able to contribute much in 2022.

It’s early, and we don’t know the details of the injury; and players heal differently. However, the start of next season is less than seven months away.

If you set nine months as a reasonable estimate for return, that’s mid-season; and no off-season workouts with Stafford, plus no Training Camp. Add-in that two ACLs in two years for a thirty-year-old, and nine months may be optimistic.

Maybe OBJ can repeat the past couple months, and be a nice late-season addition and playoff contributor.

Thinking it will be Kupp, Woods and Jefferson to start 2022 (and that’s pretty good), with Skowronek, Harris and Atwell in reserve.
 

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Keep in mind while discussing Van, his ranking amongst WR in the league last year (as a #3 WR mind you)
Receptions: 50 (#48)
Yards: 802 (#36)
TD rec: 6 (t#18)
Yards per rec: 16.0 (#6)
1st down rec: 32 (#43)
1st down per rec: 64% (t#18)
Overall, pretty damn good numbers for a 2nd year guy, who's the #3 WR option
Sure he has some growing to do, that's why he got a 4 year contract.

Agreed he had pretty good numbers for a #3. I'm just scared with him that he's reached his ceiling. Not saying that he has I just don't see those flashes you see at times with younger players. I suspect that most WR's would have similar numbers as him being the #3 in the Rams offense. I mean Stafford did throw for 6,000 yards. haha.
But yes, lets see what he does next season, maybe he improves and we have our Woods replacement waiting in the wings.