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I’m fairly new around here, so clue me in...

Is this whole, “I’m an expert so I can hijack threads and spew my great wisdom” thing something you do all the time? If so, I won’t take it personally. :)
I feel pretty good about our team until I read his post then I feel like we'll be lucky to win 8 games. I will give him credit though just from reading some of his post he does know his sh*t and he's been spot on about Hill.
 

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16. Sam Sloman still has not had a real test.

I can't help thinking we picked the wrong guy. I don't have a lot of confidence in Sam yet.

5. The pass rush was nonexistent for 3+ quarters on Sunday before coming alive, to an extent, in the fourth quarter.


Seems like that every game, we don't bring much pressure till the end of the game. I wish we could start bring it a little earlier in the game.
 

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McVay must take a long hard look at his defense and the scheme they are playing. He would instantly see all the holes to exploit. ...
Not taking sides here, just curious. McVay played this D during the preseason a lot, and it was quoted by multiple sources that the D was having their way with McVay's offense. It had me concerned about our offense, but hopeful about our defense. Was this just misdirection?

I am frustrated with lack of aggression on defense, even started a thread about it, but I still think we need some time to see what this is really going to look like for the Rams.
 

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Hollins was the Jack so that is why he rushed. The lack of a SAM (Ebukam) behind the Jack is the schematic failure on Staley. I've been saying it for 3 weeks. Staley doesn't understand how a 3-4 hybrid is played. The JACK is the 4th man on the D-line that is why you play a SAM (Ebukam) behind him. Lets get real, the failure is schematic and OC's are exploiting it as I said they would. If Staley isn't going to play with a SAM then he needs to have the SS cover the flats, that basic defense 100. This is what I'm saying it's not the players that are failing it's the scheme that is crap. Staley has his safeties dropping 10 to 15 yds back in zone!! WTF?? That was a failure of the scheme because if you don't play a SAM you must play the SS in the flats to stop just what you described. Even Wade understood that if Ebukam wasn't on the field then he played Rapp in that role.

Staley wouldn't even make a good HS coach from what I've seen. His players are poorly coached and his scheme is simplistically easy to defeat. He plays for mistakes by the offense to stop themselves instead of playing to create those mistakes.

McVay must take a long hard look at his defense and the scheme they are playing. He would instantly see all the holes to exploit. He must force Staley to close those holes with a proper scheme or fire his ass. McVay's job is to win Super Bowls and he won't do it with his defense playing prevent the entire game.

Your knowledge and expertise is vast.

You must have coached at the NFL or college level no?

Wait. This is Jeff Fisher isn’t it. In depth Knowledge of the 3-4. “Old not dead”.

Busted you Fish!
 

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Patience is an important virtue for sports fandom.

I’ll explain why later.
 

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1. There is no such thing as a good loss.

2. There are, however, degrees of bad, and this loss was not as bad as others.

3. I'm torn about the final drive. The PI call was bad, and should not have been made. The failure to stop the Bills on 3rd and 22 (and giving up 16 on the subsequent 3rd and 25) was worse, and should not have happened.

4. I think the failings on that final drive can be attributed, in part to the lack of a preseason. Our DB corps never played together before this year. While that might not be a big factor in man coverage, when you play zone (as the Rams seem to be doing on those 3rd downs) DBs need to be in synch. They clearly were not.

5. The pass rush was nonexistent for 3+ quarters on Sunday before coming alive, to an extent, in the fourth quarter. Hopefully Terrell Lewis will provide a boost there when he returns, and I agree with those who have asserted that Samson Ebukam may need to cede snaps to someone (Obo, Polite, Fox?)

6. There was a lot of good that came out of Sunday, though...

7. The running game continues to produce, and Darrell Henderson is suddenly looking like the guy we hoped we were getting when he was drafted. You have to love his big play potential. He'll pop a 50+ yarder before this season is done.

8. Jared Goff is having a very strong year. Funny how a successful running game and better OL play does that for a QB. Its almost like its a team sport or something.

9. From the "Did we let the right guys leave" file, Dante Fowler has 1 sack and has been battling injuries, Cory Littleton has only 15 tackles (no sacks or INTs) in 3 games, Todd Gurley has fewer yards than Henderson alone and a much lower YPC (5.7 to 4.0), and Greg Zuerlein missed two extra points this week. Just sayin'

10. When we were down 28-3, I started thinking about last year's Ravens and Cowboys debacles. Coming back from that deficit (even if it didn't produce a win) tells me that this team is different.

11. The next two weeks bring opponents (Giants, Redskins) who the Rams should be able to handle. I'm hoping for some nice leads that might provide opportunities to try out some blitz packages and maybe a few offensive twists.

12. The Seahawks are 3-0, but I can't imagine they're too happy about their defense, which has given up almost 500 yards/game, 430 through the air. If Jamal Adams (groin) is sidelined, that's not going to help.

13. The 49ers had an easy time with the Giants, but they are vulnerable with all their injuries.

14. The media really needs to pump the breaks on Kyler Murray. Yes, he's an exciting runner and makes some impressive throws at times, but he also has a passer rating of 79.7 and has thrown 5 INTs in 3 games. As I said last week, the jury's still out on the Cardinals.

15. Aaron Donald is so freakin' good.

16. Sam Sloman still has not had a real test.

17. Leonard Floyd is not an elite pass rusher, but his overall skill set makes him a valuable asset to the defense.

18. The blue uniforms...they're okay... kinda color rushy... but, come on... who wouldn't prefer the old throwbacks? (I did order a Ramsey jersey t-shirt, though).

19. Not Rams related, but necessary for someone, such as myself, who remembers the Miami Arena, Rony Seikaly and Sherman Douglas, it must be said... LET'S GO HEAT!!!! (Sorry, Lakers fans.)

20. I'm enjoying the season thus far... maybe more so than in previous years because, if you had asked me 2-3 months ago, I would have said I wasn't sure we'd see football at all this year.


You said Rony Seikaly! LOL :LOL:
 

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Hollins was the Jack so that is why he rushed. The lack of a SAM (Ebukam) behind the Jack is the schematic failure on Staley. I've been saying it for 3 weeks. Staley doesn't understand how a 3-4 hybrid is played. The JACK is the 4th man on the D-line that is why you play a SAM (Ebukam) behind him. Lets get real, the failure is schematic and OC's are exploiting it as I said they would. If Staley isn't going to play with a SAM then he needs to have the SS cover the flats, that basic defense 100. This is what I'm saying it's not the players that are failing it's the scheme that is crap. Staley has his safeties dropping 10 to 15 yds back in zone!! WTF?? That was a failure of the scheme because if you don't play a SAM you must play the SS in the flats to stop just what you described. Even Wade understood that if Ebukam wasn't on the field then he played Rapp in that role.

Staley wouldn't even make a good HS coach from what I've seen. His players are poorly coached and his scheme is simplistically easy to defeat. He plays for mistakes by the offense to stop themselves instead of playing to create those mistakes.

McVay must take a long hard look at his defense and the scheme they are playing. He would instantly see all the holes to exploit. He must force Staley to close those holes with a proper scheme or fire his ass. McVay's job is to win Super Bowls and he won't do it with his defense playing prevent the entire game.

C’mon man. McVay is one of the most detail oriented coaches in the NFL. If you don’t think Staley’s interview with him was like a proctology exam your nuts. Considering McVays short time in coaching and the fact that multiple hires of his have gotten multiple head coaching jobs and other promotions I’ll put my faith that McVay did his homework and made the right choice.
Give it some time and let the players (many of them new and with no pre-season) learn the scheme before you start calling for the guy to be fired.
 

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1. There is no such thing as a good loss.

2. There are, however, degrees of bad, and this loss was not as bad as others.

3. I'm torn about the final drive. The PI call was bad, and should not have been made. The failure to stop the Bills on 3rd and 22 (and giving up 16 on the subsequent 3rd and 25) was worse, and should not have happened.

4. I think the failings on that final drive can be attributed, in part to the lack of a preseason. Our DB corps never played together before this year. While that might not be a big factor in man coverage, when you play zone (as the Rams seem to be doing on those 3rd downs) DBs need to be in synch. They clearly were not.

5. The pass rush was nonexistent for 3+ quarters on Sunday before coming alive, to an extent, in the fourth quarter. Hopefully Terrell Lewis will provide a boost there when he returns, and I agree with those who have asserted that Samson Ebukam may need to cede snaps to someone (Obo, Polite, Fox?)

6. There was a lot of good that came out of Sunday, though...

7. The running game continues to produce, and Darrell Henderson is suddenly looking like the guy we hoped we were getting when he was drafted. You have to love his big play potential. He'll pop a 50+ yarder before this season is done.

8. Jared Goff is having a very strong year. Funny how a successful running game and better OL play does that for a QB. Its almost like its a team sport or something.

9. From the "Did we let the right guys leave" file, Dante Fowler has 1 sack and has been battling injuries, Cory Littleton has only 15 tackles (no sacks or INTs) in 3 games, Todd Gurley has fewer yards than Henderson alone and a much lower YPC (5.7 to 4.0), and Greg Zuerlein missed two extra points this week. Just sayin'

10. When we were down 28-3, I started thinking about last year's Ravens and Cowboys debacles. Coming back from that deficit (even if it didn't produce a win) tells me that this team is different.

11. The next two weeks bring opponents (Giants, Redskins) who the Rams should be able to handle. I'm hoping for some nice leads that might provide opportunities to try out some blitz packages and maybe a few offensive twists.

12. The Seahawks are 3-0, but I can't imagine they're too happy about their defense, which has given up almost 500 yards/game, 430 through the air. If Jamal Adams (groin) is sidelined, that's not going to help.

13. The 49ers had an easy time with the Giants, but they are vulnerable with all their injuries.

14. The media really needs to pump the breaks on Kyler Murray. Yes, he's an exciting runner and makes some impressive throws at times, but he also has a passer rating of 79.7 and has thrown 5 INTs in 3 games. As I said last week, the jury's still out on the Cardinals.

15. Aaron Donald is so freakin' good.

16. Sam Sloman still has not had a real test.

17. Leonard Floyd is not an elite pass rusher, but his overall skill set makes him a valuable asset to the defense.

18. The blue uniforms...they're okay... kinda color rushy... but, come on... who wouldn't prefer the old throwbacks? (I did order a Ramsey jersey t-shirt, though).

19. Not Rams related, but necessary for someone, such as myself, who remembers the Miami Arena, Rony Seikaly and Sherman Douglas, it must be said... LET'S GO HEAT!!!! (Sorry, Lakers fans.)

20. I'm enjoying the season thus far... maybe more so than in previous years because, if you had asked me 2-3 months ago, I would have said I wasn't sure we'd see football at all this year.

I enjoyed reading that. (y)

Lots of good points there.

Seahawks are good. But yeah, there are cracks there like the rest of teams, even if lesser. The defense has GOT to be a big concern there.

Our pass rush; it needs to get better. I was looking the other day for blitz stats and I couldn’t find a good source... I‘m thinking we have opportunity to blitz more, but that’s what I was looking for; how much are we blitzing?

We need to generate more pressure.
 

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I’m fairly new around here, so clue me in...

Is this whole, “I’m an expert so I can hijack threads and spew my great wisdom” thing something you do all the time? If so, I won’t take it personally. :)
Dats what he do...he likes to school you.
 

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I dunno about stats, but we had the Bills in LOTS of 3rd and longs and blitzed very little.

Several things stuck out.

Blitzers missed open field tackles on Allen. Yes, he's athletic, but not more so than a RB in the open field and guys tackles them all the time. Blitzers need to break down and just wrap up. If he was gonna get the ball out, that few hundredths of a second will rarely make a difference by launching at the guy, but if you miss, he's gonna get several hundred...hundredths of a second...which is bad and Allen has become one of those QBs where if you give him all day, he will hit an open receiver.

A high percentage of blitzes came up the middle. Now, normally, that'd be great, especially if you're in a 4-3 or a 3-4 with someone rushing Wide-9 because the guards are gonna be moving outside to help and there will be a lack of bodies in the front. Well, we play in the NFCW where every QB can move, so we rush using contain. That means even if we line up with no one covering the A gaps, someone or multiple someones are gonna be crashing inside. Which makes an inside blitz almost self defeating in that the OL just needs to form a wall. It seems with our rush scheme, we need to be sending LBs who can tackle to blitz in the B or C gap. Still not an outside blitz, but enough to scheme a two on one rush to the QB.

If both Ebu and Floyd are SAMs, then we need a WIL, because Ebu ain't it. Watching Ebu lose contain time after time was infuriating. I dunno if the answer is Polite or Lewis or someone else, but we NEED a WIL...badly. Honestly, I like Floyd better than Matthews, who also played the SAM and also had issues with contain, but could get to the QB and clean up AD's trash. Someone like Polite or Lewis with power and speed to challenge the left side of the offense would really make this defensive front a very difficult front to deal with.

That's it. Well, there's probably more, but it's a Tuesday.
 

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16. Sam Sloman still has not had a real test.

I can't help thinking we picked the wrong guy. I don't have a lot of confidence in Sam yet.
I'm with you. Concerned basically that we chose the guy we drafted instead of the guy who won the competition. H10 is still out there, but for how long. Hope I'm wrong as always in these types of situations.
 

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Blitzers missed open field tackles on Allen. Yes, he's athletic, but not more so than a RB in the open field and guys tackles them all the time. Blitzers need to break down and just wrap up.
I suspect there's a long list of fan sites through last season and into this one that have similar takes. And they're all correct, but you can tell players they need to wrap up, you can coach them in the techniques, you can make the scheme and approach in such a way to get things in your favor, but at the end of it all it's a player beating a player.

Allen has beat a lot of players when it comes to them trying to get him down. And the scary thing is he's got a good line in front of him now, a nice assortment of weapons, and like you see with the Rams' offense if their defense comes around you're talking premium Super Bowl contender type team.

I think there's a chance we see Buffalo again. And that's why I keep mentioning that Titans game in '99 regular season.
 

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Unfortunately the next two games are false prophets, because we may look good defensively and posters say we are on track.

We are not on track it was definitely apparent in the first 3 games - Staley and his defense are terrible. Bad teams only mask the issue.

I feel McVay and Snead need to take a hard look at Staley.

Problem is you all keep saying we had no preseason, we installed a new system, we are out A'Shawn, Lewis etc, but don't forget most teams have the same issues - lack of preseason and injuries maybe not a DC change but roughly the same.

The Offense is humming along (why - McVays a great coach) and the Defense is going to sink us unless immediately addressed. And I don't think Lewis is a savior that so many are pinning their hopes on.
 

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Teams with winning records currently allowing as many or more yards/play as the Rams:


Baltimore 2-1
Buffalo 3-0
Tennessee 3-0
Las Vegas 2-1
New England 2-1
Green Bay 3-0
Seattle 3-0

Guess there’s going to be a lot of collapses.
 

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Teams with winning records currently allowing as many or more yards/play as the Rams:


Baltimore 2-1
Buffalo 3-0
Tennessee 3-0
Las Vegas 2-1
New England 2-1
Green Bay 3-0
Seattle 3-0

Guess there’s going to be a lot of collapses.

So we can expect to see eight defensive coordinators fired at any time now...
 

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Unfortunately the next two games are false prophets, because we may look good defensively and posters say we are on track.

We are not on track it was definitely apparent in the first 3 games - Staley and his defense are terrible. Bad teams only mask the issue.

I feel McVay and Snead need to take a hard look at Staley.

Problem is you all keep saying we had no preseason, we installed a new system, we are out A'Shawn, Lewis etc, but don't forget most teams have the same issues - lack of preseason and injuries maybe not a DC change but roughly the same.

The Offense is humming along (why - McVays a great coach) and the Defense is going to sink us unless immediately addressed. And I don't think Lewis is a savior that so many are pinning their hopes on.
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Teams with winning records currently allowing as many or more yards/play as the Rams:


Baltimore 2-1
Buffalo 3-0
Tennessee 3-0
Las Vegas 2-1
New England 2-1
Green Bay 3-0
Seattle 3-0

Guess there’s going to be a lot of collapses.
So we can expect to see eight defensive coordinators fired at any time now...
Ahh beat me to it!!!
 

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I suspect there's a long list of fan sites through last season and into this one that have similar takes. And they're all correct, but you can tell players they need to wrap up, you can coach them in the techniques, you can make the scheme and approach in such a way to get things in your favor, but at the end of it all it's a player beating a player.

Allen has beat a lot of players when it comes to them trying to get him down. And the scary thing is he's got a good line in front of him now, a nice assortment of weapons, and like you see with the Rams' offense if their defense comes around you're talking premium Super Bowl contender type team.

I think there's a chance we see Buffalo again. And that's why I keep mentioning that Titans game in '99 regular season.

Well, Buffalo is good, but they're not remotely good enough to beat KC.

KC is the class of the league and no one's on their tier right now.

Second Tier includes GB, LAR, Balt, NO, Sea (that D can't take any more injuries), Tenn, Buff and NE.

I'd love to get back to the Super Bowl and go after KC, but I don't see anyone other than KC being in the Super Bowl for the AFC.

It would take a massive crapping of the bed in the playoffs for that to happen and I just don't see it.