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Why to Buy into "Manziel to Rams' rumors/SI.com

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by RamBill, May 5, 2014.

  1. moklerman Warner-phile

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    I know there's no interest in being fair to Leinart but before he injured his shoulder numerous times, he played pretty well as a rookie. That was his main problem. He couldn't stay healthy. That's the only reason Warner got another chance.
     
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  2. Boffo97 Well-Known Member

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    Much depends on whether that's 1550 out of 1600 in the old system, or 1550 out of 2400 in the new system.
     
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  3. dieterbrock Well-Known Member

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    I remember him playing great against the Bears on a night game. He had some sort of spark, appeared to have that "it" factor.
    But then again, so did Cade Mcnown. Lol
     
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  4. moklerman Warner-phile

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    Which reminds me, not that it really matters, but Manziel didn't score the highest Wonderlic of ANY QB in this draft, just the highest of the top prospects. And, just as a reminder, Bradford's 36 was higher. ;)
     
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  5. Mojo Ram On double secret probation

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  6. moklerman Warner-phile

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    McNown? I don't recall him ever doing anything and I was rooting for the guy(my girlfriend at the time was going to UCLA so I followed the Bruins). Talk about a personality case though.

    But yeah, Leinart was looking good in 2006. Put up 400+ yards vs. Minnesota as well as looking good vs. Chicago in the Denny Green post game meltdown MNF game.
     
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  7. Boffo97 Well-Known Member

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    Of course, no one beats Ryan Fitzpatrick's 48.
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  8. moklerman Warner-phile

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    "Don Jon"ny Manziel?
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  9. moklerman Warner-phile

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    I've still got a lot of respect for ol' Harvard. Guy may not be the greatest QB there ever was but he's had a helluva career for a guy drafted in the 7th round and coming from the Ivy League.
     
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  10. dieterbrock Well-Known Member

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    Mcnown showed some flashes as a rookie, had a 300 yard 4 td game late in the season, then opened with a great game vs Minnesota, 290 yards passing, 80+ rushing, 3 total td. Looked like he was the real deal for a minute.
    I had him on my fantasy football team and lived through the next couple of disaster games before his poor play and poor attitude killed his career
     
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  11. moklerman Warner-phile

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    I guess it's a) been too long(my memory's akin to an etch-a-sketch and I've been shaken far too many times) and b) his personality problems must have outweighed anything he did on the field. I know he was a big deal for the Bruins but I just didn't recall him having any success with the Bears. Hope and hype I remember but not actual success. Thanks for the reminder.
     
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  12. HE WITH HORNS Well-Known Member

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    I can't wait til the draft is over, then all the Manziel fan girls can go watch him play for another team.
     
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  13. Boffo97 Well-Known Member

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    Dude, that's not necessary.

    With one exception, all of those who have expressed interest in Manziel are (to the best of my knowledge) male. Liking someone you don't like doesn't make them a girl.
     
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  14. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    I have no problem with Leinart and I don't think he was terrible actually. He just couldn't make certain throws. When Ds started to get a boom on that it was going to be tough. I don't think he was handled correctly either.
     
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  15. kurtfaulk Well-Known Member

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    i meant the year they drafted leinart. kurt started as the player of the week in week 1 then it all went pear shaped for him. not sure what happened but he couldn't get anything going. and naturally after a couple of losses the howls to start leinart were deafening.

    leinart had a couple of good games to begin but as you said as soon as d coordinators got some tape on him it was all over for him. not sure the cards won a single game with him that season, maybe 1.

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  16. kurtfaulk Well-Known Member

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    sorry, not true. whisenhunt couldn't keep kurt off the field. the offense would lumber with leinart on the field then whiz would bring on kurt to spark things up. his time on the field increased every game up until leinart got injured, then kurt took over. i'm sure the whiz privately was jumping for joy as the only possible explanation for playing leinart would have been pressure from the owner.

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  17. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    So if we take Manziel, who is going to be his Evans that goes up in a crowd and gets the ball or breaks off his route very early to come back toward him? Are we going to pull off another Tavon/Sted draft? I see too many passes by Manziel just flung up in hopes of a play. Do that against AZ or Seattle and you can count on a multi-pick Sunday.
     
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  18. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    OK. FINALLY a rationale I can get behind.

    I doubt we take Manziel but even if we do, it does not mean we instantly trade Sam. Both potentially become trade bait and the best man stays.
     
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  19. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    It cost him his job or it was a huge part of it. He was stuck. Play the #11 pick with the big contract and leave Warner on the bench or admit you picked the wrong guy.

    That was all she wrote LOL.
     
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  20. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    I think it was in Whizs' first year when Leinart was still starting and Warner would come in and run the no huddle. The Cards D was pretty solid at that point. I just remember the Cards at Ravens game that year. Leinart plays 3 quarters and change and I think put up 6 points, Warner came in with the no huddle and just went off, unstoppable even on the road vs. that D....good stuff.
     
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