Who Is The One Player You Don't Want The Rams Taking In Round 1?

[jrry32]

There are about 5 players that are well worth the number 1 pick...so at least 4 players are worthy of number 2.

Saying there are only 2 players worthy of being taken 1 and 2 is being very tunnel visioned and setting yourself up to fail.

No, it's being honest. If we have the #2 pick, coming away with anything other than one of the top 2 players on your board is failure. And I've already expressed how my board falls.

It's your opinion that there are four players worthy. My list has a clearly defined #1 and #2 at this stage. Beyond that, there are 4 players that are clumped together for me which is why I am not too picky when it comes to who we pick with a trade down.

This cliche notion that you take the BPA no matter what is a fallacy. Not to mention how many times we here this "best player in a decade" talk when said player ends up being just as good as other players in the class at other positions (sometimes the SAME position).

I don't use BPA. I use BVA. It takes into account need and positional value on top of the pure talent method of the BPA.

No...there are more options than J.Clowney at # 2.

That's certainly your opinion but for me, it's either Clowney or trade down at #2.

 

[RamFan503]

Jason Smith. Too late?

 

[Sum1]

No, it's being honest. If we have the #2 pick, coming away with anything other than one of the top 2 players on your board is failure. And I've already expressed how my board falls.

It's your opinion that there are four players worthy. My list has a clearly defined #1 and #2 at this stage. Beyond that, there are 4 players that are clumped together for me which is why I am not too picky when it comes to who we pick with a trade down.



I don't use BPA. I use BVA. It takes into account need and positional value on top of the pure talent method of the BPA.



That's certainly your opinion but for me, it's either Clowney or trade down at #2.

Yeah, well...you're wrong!

 

[RamFan503]

Yeah, well...you're wrong!

YEAH!

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

I'm not really interested in the 40 times for a LT(as impressive as his time was). His game shows deficiencies as a pass blocker. Does he have the potential to be a good, even dominant pass blocker? Yes. But we don't know for certain that he ever will. At this point i'd rather take a guy who can dominate as a pass blocker immediately, as for me, priority number 1 is protecting Sam. Both Matthews and Lewan fit that mould for me. I like Robinson's potential but i wouldn't be prepared to take that risk at #2 overall.

Dude, I understand. Still, if we're drafting a lineman in the first, he better be a starter day 1. Long will be healthy enough to start Week 1 (all 16, we'll see), and I don't think Lewan will beat him at the LT spot, so he'll have to play LG. Robinson at LG, IMO, will protect Sam better than Lewan, and we're not discussing run possibilities. If Long gets hurt later in the season, Greg should be familiar enough to slide over-- if not then Saffold (I think Saffold's returning, and I'm willing to bet in Sportsbook).

 

[jsimcox]

Dude, I understand. Still, if we're drafting a lineman in the first, he better be a starter day 1. Long will be healthy enough to start Week 1 (all 16, we'll see), and I don't think Lewan will beat him at the LT spot, so he'll have to play LG. Robinson at LG, IMO, will protect Sam better than Lewan, and we're not discussing run possibilities. If Long gets hurt later in the season, Greg should be familiar enough to slide over-- if not then Saffold (I think Saffold's returning, and I'm willing to bet in Sportsbook).

But in that case you are drafting a LT based on his ability to play guard. To which i say, draft a guard in the second. If Long did get hurt then as you say, Saffold is more than capable of manning the LT spot, at least temporarily.
So i guess the real question becomes, do we need a tackle at all? Especially when there are very talented guards available in the draft who should be available in the second.

 

[brokeu91]

But in that case you are drafting a LT based on his ability to play guard. To which i say, draft a guard in the second. If Long did get hurt then as you say, Saffold is more than capable of manning the LT spot, at least temporarily.
So i guess the real question becomes, do we need a tackle at all? Especially when there are very talented guards available in the draft who should be available in the second.

I don't think people are wanting to draft Robinson only because he can play guard. They want to draft him because he has more overall potential than any other O-lineman and has time to be coached up to his potential. In the mean time he can start at guard and be our swing tackle this year until he learns more pass protection technique. Furthermore, he is more suited to our offensive style-power running game with man-to-man blocking. He could blow up huge holes for Stacy et. al and do this against the front 7 of San Francisco, Seattle, and Arizona. That's what we need on offense (besides a true #1 WR guy).

If you compare this to Matthews (who is a very good prospect as well), he isn't suited to play guard. Right now we have Jake Long and Barksdale at OT. Yes, Long may not be able to start on game 1, but everyone expects him to be ready. Where does Matthews play? We could cut Barksdale, but he played really well down the stretch and is not costly. We could cut Long but then we're doing so for an unproven rookie. Plus, it wouldn't look good to other potential free agents if we cut one after one year in which he got hurt at the end. So where does Matthews play?

Really the only other prospect besides Robinson that makes any sense for the Rams in the top 5 is Watkins. That's it, either Robinson or Watkins. No one else really does make any sense right now.

Lande said the Rams have many problems...I really don't think they do. They're about 3-4 key positions away from being really good.

 

[rdlkgliders]

It's a tough call, Robinson isn't ready to pass block at LT at the NFL level and by most accounts needs a lot of development with his footwork. Playing him anywhere but LT is a reach a big one at 2
Watkins has good speed and average size, but that doesn't equal elite and a 2 to me. Matthews or Clowney are true first year starters and ready from the get ahh yes we have a healing LT and 2 pretty good DE's. So pick your poison

 

[RamFan503]

I'm on board with Robinson. He can start at LG and really learn the NFL while busting holes for the running game. I also don't think he would be any kind of liability in pass pro. I have no doubt he needs to work on his technique at LT but who better to learn from than Long and Bou? The guy looks like a future animal at LT. I'd love that. And if he proves to be an animal at LG for a couple years while he learns, I'm ok with that too. And yes - at #2 overall.

 

[The Rammer]

Leon Sandcastle

 

[Sum1]

I'm on board with Robinson. He can start at LG and really learn the NFL while busting holes for the running game. I also don't think he would be any kind of liability in pass pro. I have no doubt he needs to work on his technique at LT but who better to learn from than Long and Bou? The guy looks like a future animal at LT. I'd love that. And if he proves to be an animal at LG for a couple years while he learns, I'm ok with that too. And yes - at #2 overall.

I'm becoming more and more split between Robinson and Watkins.

I like Matthews too, just not as much as the other 2.

 

[ausmurp]

I don't want Robinson. We need O-linemen to keep Sam upright before anything else and Robinson doesn't offer the same pass blocking ability as the other top tackles in the class. He also screams boom or bust to me in general. Give me Matthews or Lewan over him any day of the week...

This for me. But I want Watkins or trade down. I'd love to get Watkins, then Lewan at 13.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Mike Evans

I realize he had a nice combine, but his lack of quickness off the line scares me.

Someone else who agrees with me. Using that size in the pro's isn't going to be as easy as 1-2-3 plug him in.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Well some of you guys are obviously cheating. For me I don't want Lewan.

Is it the attitude or do you think his talent is overrated?

 

[Warner4Prez]

Manziel.
I'd be shocked if they took a QB. I wouldn't be happy, but I wouldn't cry the sky is falling. That said, Manziel I don't care for. I'd rather see Bortles if it were to come to that.

 

[RamFan503]

I'm going to be pulling for whoever. But I gotta say, if we go TE, FB, RB, G(not potential starting T), Center, LB, K, P, LSer, I'm going to be lighting up the chat room. Otherwise, I'm going to enjoy the ride knowing my football knowledge is probably less than 1/100th of what Snead, Fisher, et al have amassed in their skulls. Doesn't mean I won't argue like I'm some kind of an expert though.

I just can't get swept up with any college player(s). It's hard for me to stomach most of the talking heads out there and I can't help but think about how wrong they generally are once you get out of the top 5 - MAYBE 10 picks. So instead I tune in here. Even if I don't agree with some of you guys, I still respect your ideas more. Yeah - even YOU Laramsoriginal . You guys watch OUR team and I think in most cases are more in tune with our needs and the staff's tendencies than the likes of MccShay, Kiper, and certainly Millen.

Come on Snisher - get us some difference makers.

 

[F. Mulder]

Is it the attitude or do you think his talent is overrated?

I just don't think he plays as well as is talent. I defer to guys who are draftniks but I thought there were questions about his performance this past season. I also have concerns about his off-the-field stuff (and no not all of it was "typical college stuff". Who knows, he could mature and become a really good OL, I just feel like his questions are too big to use a high draft pick on. I know I'm in the minority here but the OP was who would I not want and he just is someone I'd rather we don't end up with. If we don't get Robinson or Mathews I hope they get someone in the next wave in rounds 2-3.