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lol some of these guys are straight-up DELUSIONAL!!!

http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=139834&sid=a61707dba6719e7c711d674f2243f712

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Jeff Fisher had our number. Go look at the score and the numbers on the Fisherless game at the end of last year.
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TO the guy who posted this in their thread, you sir, are a DUMBASS!!!

How we win:
1) OLINE PROTECTION!!
2) screens, delayed hand-offs, bootlegs, PA.. anything to help mitigate their aggressive rush
3) Deep shots on their rookie Griffin and Chancellor... they hold a lot too and refs could be keeping an eye out for that so taking shots could draw some PI's
4) Make Alec/Barron spies.. and make sure they honor their assignments FFS!!
5) Make sure Joyner and Alexander (constant burn victim) stay back and do not let Shecocks wideouts get behind them. Shecocks love PA and rolling out Wilson for deep shots
6) AGGRESSIVE but controlled attitude! They are going to come in and be physical, with borderline hits and postwhistle activity so I rally up the troops and pull a Wauffle speech on our boys. "KICK THEM RIGHT IN THE FUCKIN' MOUTH AND DON'T BACK DOWN FROM THE MOTHERFUCKER IN FRONT OF YOU!!!
7) McVay keeping his foot on the throttle and punching in the rock; no conservative playcalling!
 

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lol some of these guys are straight-up DELUSIONAL!!!



TO the guy who posted this in their thread, you sir, are a DUMBASS!!!

How we win:
1) OLINE PROTECTION!!
2) screens, delayed hand-offs, bootlegs, PA.. anything to help mitigate their aggressive rush
3) Deep shots on their rookie Griffin and Chancellor... they hold a lot too and refs could be keeping an eye out for that so taking shots could draw some PI's
4) Make Alec/Barron spies.. and make sure they honor their assignments FFS!!
5) Make sure Joyner and Alexander (constant burn victim) stay back and do not let Shecocks wideouts get behind them. Shecocks love PA and rolling out Wilson for deep shots
6) AGGRESSIVE but controlled attitude! They are going to come in and be physical, with borderline hits and postwhistle activity so I rally up the troops and pull a Wauffle speech on our boys. "KICK THEM RIGHT IN THE freakin' MOUTH AND DON'T BACK DOWN FROM THE motherfreaker IN FRONT OF YOU!!!
7) McVay keeping his foot on the throttle and punching in the rock; no conservative playcalling!

If it's me, I'm attacking Shaq Griffin. He's a physically talented kid, but he's raw and vulnerable. This is a kid who got burnt badly by schools like Arkansas State last year. Get Watkins on him 1-on-1 and go to work. You'll get some penalties, and Watkins will get his.
 

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I remember watching that game. What a defense. I think they had -10 yards passing and 3 yards rushing. Something like that. 1979?

edit: I had the right year but it was -30 passing and 23 rushing.

I was going to bring that up when people were talking about our biggest blow-out wins against the shecocks. It may not have been score wise at 24-0, but it was the most epic beat down I have ever witnesses by any team.

We ran the ball 63 freaking times for over 300 yards in that game! Astounding!
I posted the entire game on the prediction thread. Go check it out. :cheers:

Edit: I see @tempests posted it later in this thread....well isn't HE just a hero now? :cautious:
 
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To summarize, don't expect to see anything different. The Rams are still the Rams. They didn't find magic beans this off season. Their "maturity" will be canceled out by our experience. Book the W!
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"Anybody can book the 'W'. It's HOLDING the 'W' that counts."

The Seahawks are a championship-caliber team. Regardless of record and slow starts, top to bottom, there's not a lot of teams in the NFL better than the Seattle Seahawks. Now if they play up to their potential will remain to be seen, but yes they are most definitely a championship-caliber team.

Yes that champion-caliber O-line is going to cause some champion-caliber medical attention to be required for a certain unnamed dwarf come Sunday, once AD is finished with him.
 

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You should go to a game there in Seattle. You have no idea unless you have. They went from Kurt Warner Rams jerseys to throw back Zorn in a heart beat once they started winning. Tools.
True. I wore my Rams jersey to a Monday Night game featuring Eric Dickerson. It wasn't long before I was soaked in a (spilt or tossed) beer from the hags fans behind me. The Rams kicked the Seahags ass so bad, by the end of the game they were rooting for the Rams, lol.
 

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AGGRESSIVE but controlled attitude! They are going to come in and be physical, with borderline hits and postwhistle activity
Good point... I think they'll be borderline as well, trying to get the Rams to commit personal fouls.

It might be a good test of how far some of these players have come from the undisciplined days of Jeff Fisher.
 

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https://forums.footballsfuture.com/topic/2817-what-do-we-make-of-jared-goffs-hot-start/?page=6

What do we make of Jared Goff's hot start?

On the throw to Gurley: That's not a hard throw. NFL QBs make that throw on the daily....
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He's a #1 overall pick. I think the Rams gave him unwarranted expectations when they traded everything away for him. If he doesn't become Matt Ryan, he's a failure in people's eyes....
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If Goff hadn't played a game last year, people would be anointing him as the next big thing after the way he's played this year. People jumped the gun, decided he was a bust, and are holding it against the kid.

The Rams didn't trade anything close to "everything" for Goff. They gave up a reasonable package considering the jump to get a franchise QB from #15, and none of us are regretting it right now.

Frankly, I don't blame people for being hesitant to make a commitment on him. I hope it's indicative of people learning their lesson for the mistakes made last year (but I don't think it is). However, it does bother me that Goff is playing at an incredibly high level right now, yet how many people are even willing to admit that the kid has a high ceiling? He's playing like a top 5 QB right now. Will he keep that up? Who knows. But he's a 22 year old QB. The fact that he's playing like this at such a young age should demonstrate the potential he has. - jrry32
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If he could finish being considered a top 30 QB of all time by more than the casual fan, he's probably had a very good career.
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We as fans do have tendencies to get a first impression of a player and make it stick for a very long time if not forever. Goff looked bad in 2016 preseason, didn't dress Week 1 in 2016 on MNF at San Fran and struggled while not winning a game in his 7 starts in 2016. Idc what situation he was in last season and how things have changed drastically this season, people are stuck with the bad last season and won't adjust their way of thinking.

I personally doubt many fans stayed up to watch Goff at Cal. Cal was a bad team when Goff got there they improved every year Goff was there. I stayed up to watch Goff games and I remember the broadcasters saying the Goff was a top pick prospect during his junior year. That told me that he just didn't come out of nowhere in the draft. The Rams didn't just randomly saw him on tape and choose go trade up to get him.

According to reports at the time, the Rams loved Goff in the 2016 draft class more than any QB projected to be in the 2017 draft class and was willing to make that move. They knew they were essentially one QB away from being serious playoff contenders. Now it took Fisher to get fired and to bring in "real" offensive minded coaches and quarterback guru to make things happen, but we do see that Goff progression has the Rams looking like a playoff contender.

So when people kept saying the Rams were rebuilding, I'm saying they just needed tweaking. They found their left tackle and center, they added a few reliable pass catchers and the got the right coaches. Now the Rams we have been waiting to see with all the talent they already had, they have arrived.
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View: https://twitter.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/914676287255408640
This stat/tweet can not be emphasized enough. Gurley has room to run, we control the clock. Gurley doesn't have room to run, Goff has single coverage somewhere and now knows how to find it. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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Lets see if that continues vs Seattle.
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Him playing well has helped Todd Gurley, which only helps Goff more. Teams can't stack the box nearly as much now and Gurley is proving he's an elite two way weapon. The Rams offense is going to be scary going forward if those two can keep it up and a guy like Kupp keeps progressing.
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I would have to say that both Goff and Wentz are both showing strong indications that they will be solid franchise QB's. Anybody who tries to put down QB's after their rookies seasons really knows squat, about the past experiences of some of the greatest QB's who have played the game.

Many, Many, Many struggled as rookies only to go on and have sensational careers. It is a huge adjustment from college ball and many rookies struggle at many positions, but with added experience and a strong will to succeed, they go on to have wonderful careers and QB is no different. Just as a reminder, both Peyton and Eli struggled as rookies and how did that work out?????
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http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=139811&sid=9278e66058e354bff356a0b6506914d5

Game Of The Year?

Their defense sucks. The Rams gave us trouble when their defense was playing lights out.

That being said, who knows what team shows up in LA it's always a coin flip.
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A quick check of the Rams roster shows 19 new faces out of last years 53 so roughly a 36.8% roster change. Most importantly at the key positions on offense the Rams have a new All Pro LT, New veteran center and two accomplished veteran wide outs to go along with a rookie wide out who leads all rookies in catches and Td's. So as a little research would have shown you this is not the 2016 JF Rams.
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A lot of people were calling goff a bust. Guy was a rookie and didn't have much to work with. I kinda got roasted when we played him last year and I said he looked like he had a good arm. Well guess what he may be more dangerous than a lot of people thought. Should be a good game. They look like they are playing very good on offense this year amazing what a coach can do huh.
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I don't call many games "must win" before November, but that is premised on being within 1 game of .500 by then. If we lose, we'd still be 2-3, but 2 games back in the Division. Tough call, but we're getting close to "must win" this week. Especially after losing Carson, the team needs to gut out a win for the psychology of it all.
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IMO it's been incremental improvement by Goff across the board - but the major difference is the insane amount of talent this year versus last year. I was telling some of my fellow Rams fans before the season that this year had a 1999 feel to it.

Had a star offensive player that was wasting away on bad teams (Isaac Bruce/Todd Gurley)

New offensive system in place that year

Traded a 2nd round pick for established offensive weapon (Faulk/Watkins)

Influx of talent at skill positions (Faulk and Holt; Woods, Watkins, Kupp, Everett)

Unproven QB (Goff/Warner (or even Green - he was decent but looked much better with the Rams than he did the Skins)

Of course, Gurley/Watkins/Woods are nowhere near Faulk/Bruce/Holt - but then, our defense is actually more talented than it was in 1999 (even though we finished 5th in total D that year). So in a way I kind of saw this coming, but the PTSD from Fisher still has me hesitating.

The really crazy part is the upgrades over last year:

Watkins/Woods vs. Britt and Quick....my God we were terrible..

Whitworth is the best OL we've had probably since Pace.

Everett was a headscratcher on draft day, but he's made some plays. Kupp is someone everyone's already hearing about.

The interesting thing about this offense is how every game somebody steps up. Kupp in week 1, Everett in week 2, Watkins (and Woods) in week 3, Gurley in week 4 - although Gurley has been good every week. The OL has been stellar.

Which is why I'm so interested in this game Sunday. I feel much better about the Redskins loss after seeing them play the Raiders and Chiefs...but still, beating the Colts is nothing to write home about. The Niners...who knows? Their defense played really well against the Panthers, Seahawks and Cardinals - but their offense lit us up. It all points to who the hell knows..

I've picked the Rams wrong every week, except for week 1 which was easy..
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Can any game, at any point in the season, be more important than defeating a division rival who is likely to be competing for the divisional championship?

It took the Rams a year longer than I thought to get here, but they are our primary competition in the NFCW now. I was so mad when they got Kupp. Been watching him at Eastern Washington, and really didn't want him to be picked up by another NFCW team.

We need this win in a big way.
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https://www.fieldgulls.com/2017/10/...-wagner-todd-gurley-jared-goff-russell-wilson

Seahawks-Rams preview: 2 teams rejoice as they’re free from Fisherball
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The revamped, NFC West-leading L.A. Rams play host to the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday in what will be another massive test for Sean McVay’s team. The Rams are coming off a huge statement win, going into Dallas and beating the Cowboys 35-30. The Seahawks meanwhile are coming off a win of their own, a two-quarter dominance against the Indianapolis Colts.

It’s Seattle’s first game against the exciting, refreshing Los Angeles team -- and frankly the first compelling Seahawks-Rams game since 2010. That’s right, Jeff Fisher-led teams were so boring that for six years I longed for a game like one that Ruvell Martin led in receiving and Will Herring sealed with an interception. But it would be unfair to dwell on the former, has-been head coach when L.A.’s new regime is so fascinating and has ignited so much optimism league-wide. Without further ado, the debrief:

This season, the Rams have looked like…

A contender. It’s been a common refrain this week to point out that at this time last season, L.A. was 3-1. But 2016’s team and 2017’s team are incomparable, and what the Rams have done right out of the gate is remarkable. Well-coached and balanced in all three phases, L.A. has all the makings of a legitimate playoff team.

The offense clicked right away, with Jared Goff playing incredibly well and more importantly, looking comfortable. He’s distributing the ball to a host of weapons, getting the ball out on time and looks like a completely different player from last season.

On the other side of the ball, Wade Phillips’ impact has been felt right away. The defensive line is as deep as ever, Mark Barron’s transition to linebacker continues to be seamless, and Trumaine Johnson and Lamarcus Joyner are playing like Pro-Bowlers in the secondary.

With one of the best special teams coaches in the NFL for six seasons now in John Fassel, the Rams’ strong play in the third phase never wavered even through some shockingly uncompetitive seasons under Fisher. They sit fourth in special teams DVOA through four weeks while getting exceptional production out of both specialists.

Punter Johnny Hekker has been outstanding and is second in the NFL in net average at 46.1 yards per attempt, while kicker Greg Zuerlein is perfect on the year and accounted for 23 of L.A.’s 35 points last Sunday.

In this game, Seattle needs to…

Have the offense gameplan around pressure from the Rams’ defensive front. If the Seahawks try to operate like their normal offense in L.A., they’ll be sabotaging themselves. The mismatch between the Rams’ front-seven and Seattle’s offensive line is too great.

Instead, the Seahawks should re-hash some good things they did in week two against the San Francisco 49ers: bootlegs, move the pocket, read-option and use designed rollouts. We’ve seen Houston completely revitalize their offense by working around Deshaun Watson’s mobility, and Seattle doing something similar on Sunday will be their best chance to move the ball.

L.A.’s defensive line will attack and get up-field, and like Dak Prescott last week, there’s going to be opportunities for Wilson to hurt the Rams with his legs by escaping up the middle of the pocket. Prescott ended with 25 yards on the ground, and if Wilson can make a couple plays with his legs early it’ll slow down L.A.’s pass rush.

The Rams blitz more than anyone in the league, so the Seahawks are going to have to keep them honest. Seattle isn’t going to be able to stop Aaron Donald and company, but there’s absolutely things they can do to slow them down.

A critical factor for L.A. will be…

To finish off drives. Last week in Dallas, the Rams had drives stall at the Cowboys’ 12, 10 and 15 yard-line. Despite it being a wholly impressive win, it shouldn’t have been as close as it was. At home against a division rival those kind of drives have to be capped off, or else they risk letting the Seahawks hang around for another potential late game-tying or game-winning drive.

L.A. possesses the correct recipe to beat Seattle. They can dominate time of possession and have the depth on the defensive line to get after the passer consistently. If the Rams can finish a couple would-be field goal drives with touchdowns, it’s going to be an extremely difficult game for the Seahawks to get back into if they fall behind early.

A critical factor for the Seahawks will be…

The linebackers continuing their dominant play. Bobby Wagner is making a real run at Defensive Player of the Year, K.J. Wright continues to be criminally underrated and Michael Wilhoite has contributed more than Mike Morgan did a year ago. Against the Rams, they’ll face their biggest test.

Dallas desperately missed Sean Lee last week, with Gurley exploiting his matchup in the passing game, catching seven passes for 94 yards - including a 53-yard touchdown catch-and-run. Getting Gurley involved in the passing game this year has been a master stroke by McVay, and Wagner and Wright’s strong play against the pass will be tested.

On the outside, Wilhoite and Kam Chancellor will be crucial in containing Gurley. L.A. runs a ton of outside zone, taking advantage of his sprinter-speed and unforgiving decisiveness. On 38 runs either outside the tackles or to the boundary, Gurley is averaging 5.5 yards per carry. Keeping Gurley from working in space will be imperative to Seattle slowing down the Rams’ engine.

Players who have stood out for L.A.…

Their entire offense has been something to marvel at. Goff’s progression from one of the worst rookie quarterbacks in NFL history to one of the league’s best facilitators shouldn’t be discounted -- it’s an accomplishment that alone will likely win McVay Coach of the Year honors.

He’s unlocked Gurley, restoring him to a generational talent at running back and getting him the ball in space as often as possible. And the way they’ve already replicated Kirk Cousins’ weapons in Washington - Robert Woods as Pierre Garcon, Sammy Watkins as DeSean Jackson, Cooper Kupp as Jamison Crowder and Gerald Everett as Jordan Reed - is astonishing.

A reason for optimism…

At the very least, this game is going to be exciting. One of the NFC’s most exciting young teams going against the elder statesmen of their division and conference. Two incredible defenses. Two really well-coached teams. After suffering through years and years of Fisher-ball, it will be exhilarating to have a Seahawks-Rams game that’s worth watching even for neutrals.

Quick Hits…

Jeremy Lane looks like he’s on track to miss out on this game with a groin injury, so we’ll get another look at Justin Coleman at slot cornerback. Coleman has made a case to replace Lane in the lineup with strong games against both the Green Bay Packers and the Colts, and now can build on it against Kupp and the Rams. Kupp’s production has slowed down since an electric week one, but Goff has 100-percent trust in him already, and won’t hesitate to go right at Coleman if he struggles.

Cliff Avril will also miss Sunday’s game against L.A., so Frank Clark is going to have to step up. He’s going to be run at often, and with Avril’s future murky right now, Clark can do a lot to negate that potentially long-term loss with a disciplined game.

Robert Quinn had to be excited after Phillips’ hiring. Under his tutelage, Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware became all-time pass rushers, and Quinn has as much talent as either of those two. His 19-sack, DPOY-level season in 2013 long behind him, his career should be re-starting under the Son of Bum. But after a dominant week one against Indianapolis, Quinn has been quiet the last three weeks. A massive breakout game could be on the horizon. And if not him:

It’s not often you see the Cowboys’ offensive line get bullied, but they were absolutely bullied last Sunday. Michael Brockers and Aaron Donald combined for eight hurries, a sack and five QB hits playing across from the best center and right guard in the NFL. Luckily, Luke Joeckel is as good as any guard in the league.

And a prediction…

The Seahawks are coming along slowly as they’re wont to do, but Sunday’s game is too difficult of a matchup for Seattle’s current form. L.A.’s defense will hold late and the Rams get back-to-back statement wins, 21-13.
 

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Goff was one of the worst rookie qbs in nfl history? Who knew? People man.

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If the hawks offense cannot get some traction in the first quarter, and at least find some consistency throughout, then this game is an L. They are to talented on both sides of the ball to spot them a 10 point lead, or leave our Defense out on the field for 20 minutes in the first half.
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It seems like I have ADD when reading positive posts about the Rams....I have to re-read the post 3 times to comprehend-
Even with the SeaHawks beat-up, dinged and struggling, they are still feared and high in the power ratings. Compare this to what I’ve been forced to swallow for years from the Sports writers…………….
"The Rams game will be a laugher"……."This Rams game against the Steelers is good for the insomniacs" ……ad-nauseum-
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Power rankings are weird right now because too many teams are bi-polar, sample size is still small

I wouldn’t put Seattle higher than the mid teens right now. I’d probably rank the Rams just above them, but the Rams offense needs to finish these otherwise impressive drives and the defense needs to start containing the run better. As impressive as the Rams offense looked moving the ball last Sunday, Greg the Leg was still the leading scorer.

That said, I’ve watched more than a couple Seahawks wins where Hau$ch was integral to the win. Wins are wins. Rams look so much better than last season, it’s fucking disgusting. Makes me want to puke. Sincere congratulations on the upgrade.
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I don't know, I'm a Seahawks fan and I'd put the Rams pretty high at this point

There’s really not a glaring weakness to their team. I realize people are (rightly) skeptical of turnarounds with a small sample size, but this one looks pretty legitimate and it’s easy to point to a cause —

Sean McVay is a much better coach than Fisher ever was and is hence getting better results. Obviously I am high on the Seahawks, but I’d put the Rams in the top 10 so far this year. Can you name 10 teams you think are better right now?
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Their defense
is a glaring weakness right now. I think it’ll get better over time, but right now thats a main issue.

They are a team you better play well against and be ready for though.
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Per Football Outsiders
The Rams’ defense is ranked slightly better than the Seahakws defense. It’s easy to focus on that one road game where the 49ers scored a lot on them, but they don’t seem to have a terrible defense.
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id start by pointing out that no one other than you asserted that they were focusing on one game.

Its not 1 game, its most of their games. They give up a ton of points along with rushing yards in total. Sure, they played some decent offenses to be sure. But they didnt stop them effectively, just enough to outscore them. Bend but dont break has worked, but they need to stop the run more often or they arent going to just outscore people for 16 games.

Im glad they are better, no one enjoys a shit division. But yes, that defense is a weakness at present.
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They’ve given up a lot of total points, but the 49ers game is the only one that looks bad (39 points in Santa Clara). Not much shame in giving up 27 to Washington or 30 to Dallas. Those are both good offensive teams. And giving up 9 to the Colts is obviously not a blemish, as it’s better than we did.

You are right that their rushing defense hasn’t been great (24th by DVOA, which is actually better than the Seahawks’ rushing defense by DVOA), but their pass defense has been good (11th by DVOA).

I like DVOA better than just "points" or "yards" because it presents a more accurate picture of efficiency and also takes into account at least some opponent-based adjustment (40% currently).
I think it’s accurate to say their defense hasn’t been as strong as their offense, but it’s tough to say it is a glaring weakness.
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They've given up an average of 26.5 points a game
And, according to DVOA, they’ve faced the 14th- (WAS), 15th- (DAL), 31st- (SF), and 32nd- (IND) ranked offenses this season. That’s not exactly a murderer’s row. I’d certainly be very concerned with the defense if I were a Rams fan. And, while DVOA indicates that the Rams’ D hasn’t been as bad as it looks, it’s very early in the season and totally fair to say that the Rams’ D has looked like a weakness.
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Yeah, I just think it's a mistake to focus only on points given up. That Thursday night game against SF looks like an outlier.
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There's only been 4 games, so I'm not really sure you can be talking about outliers yet.
Also, it’s really early in the season to be relying heavily on DVOA (even though I’m a big fan). The Rams were bad against the pass last year and the personnel in their secondary hasn’t really changed.

There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of the Rams’ D outside of giving up 39 points to SF (though I think you are underselling how bad of a defensive performance that is). It’s gonna take longer for me to believe that simply changing coordinators has made their defense good against the pass.
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I think they have a pretty high pressure rate against the pass.
I’m not sure how good the secondary is or isn’t, but maybe that is why they’ve done well against the pass so far.

I guess we’ll see on Sunday and over the course of the rest of the season. But I’m skeptical the Seahawks will put up a lot of points against the Rams this week.
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i still see Rams going 8-8 or 9-7 at best
First year rookie coaches either struggle thru out the entire year, or come out blazing hot then revert to the mean once every other team starts understanding the new coach’s schemes, tendencies, playcalling, etc…

Look at Dan Quinn with the Falcons, or Doug Pedersen with the Eagles.

So while I would like to see the Seahawks win this round, I’m not worried if they lose as I still think Seahawks win the NFC West.
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Rams 11-5 as the league gets the film to catch up to the changes.
Part of what LA has, justly, capitalized on is that they are so different from the Rams of the past, most especially on offense. The league will begin to catch up to their changes. Still, they really are improved, and frankly it’s great to see.

Crap teams in Fishermode are frankly a disgrace, and moreover completely an unnecessary self-injury. There is enough coaching talent in this game that you FIRE HCs and GMs who give you back to back crap seasons, or should, let alone a rummy hand full of them.

Rams gave up 30 to Dallas. Gave up more in San Jose to an incredibly poor team. Their defense can definitely be exploited. How much they are able to fix that through the second half will say where the team lands come post-season. I think losses will become more frequent going forward, but the squad looks to have the confidence to sustain their new effort level.

I have to see the advantage to the Rams on this one. Hawks have not played will away against the Rams. Things will be close enough, though, that a few major plays will be deciders, and the Hawks defense is going to be something Goff hasn’t had to face down in this season.

I could definitely see 27-24 Seattle, just that it’s not as likely as a ten-point loss. Effort level by the Hawks will be the decider. If they come out wanting it, I think it’s theirs. If it’s "We’ll put it together later in the season," that won’t be near enough in this one.
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wouldn't it be funny if Fisher
Was the magic sauce against the Seahawks. Who knows, maybe without him the Seahawks end up easily dominating the Rams. Should be an entertaining game for multiple reasons this sunday.
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That was my point with teams being bipolar
And I’ll reserve judgment on the Rams being Top 10 material until I see how they fare against some good defenses over the next few weeks, but yeah, they’ve looked much better so far. The 2016 Rams started 3-1 and September is always weird, but you can’t deny the upgrades so far.
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No Jeff Fisher, no Gregg Williams, competent QB play.
That pit in my stomach I always got in the week leading up to the game that felt as if I’d only be able to alleviate once we forced our way through the suffering of the yearly Rams road game is suspiciously absent this year.

My reasons for hating the team were, as referenced above, Jeff Fisher’s undue smugness and unyielding arrogance in the face of their yearly Super Bowl 12-9 win, Gregg William’s long standing reputation for only similarly only succeeding consistently against Seattle and his capacity to be the architect of one of the bigger, and personally to me the most disgusting, scandals in American sports history and get off essentially scot-free,

and their long line of QB incompetence that not only made them intolerable to watch in passing, but also allowed for a proclivity to churn out surprise, season best performances against Seattle despite the serious talent and relative performance discrepancy between the team in the Pete Carroll era.

With these reasons no longer in play, I now see a competent former Pac-12 QB alongside and underdog young receiver from Washington that I can get behind in some capacity, a respectable and (now evidently) good coaching staff, and positive performance will no longer come as a major shock coming against us should such a performance occur.

Thus I’m left with the strange feeling of knowing the importance of this game while also not feeling inclined to the same anger and resentment I feel towards the Cardinals, Packers, Patriots and Falcons of the world. Indeed this strangely feels more like playing post downfall 49ers, or Panthers even, but with a degree of admiration and the fact the no downfall has occurred and they in fact appear improved, thus rendering the game still critical as opposed to how we now see 49ers games (well maybe not this one earlier in the year).

I guess the best correlation might be the Steelers since our gripe with them had little to do with what the team itself did to us over a decade ago, said gripe was indeed over a decade ago, they have an entirely new team with players such as Bell and Brown that are easy to enjoy, a new coach and a good team.

(Still don’t like Roethlisberger but alas, one team cannot have it all (besides Seattle of course)). Point being that games against the Steelers, such as in late 2015, I certainly wanted to win not to "avenge" anything, but because they were good and I didn’t reason to hate the personnel anymore.

This game has the added importance of being a divisional game and I find myself excited for the opportunity provided, not sickened by the pit in my stomach for an upcoming slugfest, and while I still find myself bitter about past losses,

they’ve suffered plenty in the grand scheme of things and seeing a team crawl out of the gutter in such fashion and present an intriguing, important, and tough matchup is certainly appealing enough to tide me over, at least until the next time they beat us in 2021 of course.
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Fisher had the perfect scheme to destroy Seattle's offensive design, and Pete refused to adapt. Different context now.

It’s hard to recall a coach who hated the offensive game as much as Fisher, including that of his own team. He didn’t just tolerate offensive incompetence, he seemed to deliberately inculcate it. My sneaking suspicion was that he wanted to prove his own genius by having his defense win every game, which they couldn’t if the offense actually, y’know, piled up a real lead.

To me, Pete, another defensive coach, doesn’t like offenses either, and implemented a design that deliberately didn’t allow his offense to do much. And with the ZBS, the Rams’ concept of flooding EVERY gap simply wrecked any offensive continuity. Pete kept running his offense right into the scheme designed to beat it, stubbornly collecting losses.

On the other hand, there may have been a quality of ’We’ll stay true to what we do because we are good enough not to be forced off that by the other side’ as a message to the team for other games where the scheme would pay off.

That said, Pete has shown more flexibility, and a great deal more interest in actually winning. Pete’s defensive scheme is so much more versatile that it can beat down on a wide variety of offenses. Pete is a motivator of legend; he should go into the Hall of Fame on that alone. McVay is showing a bit of that, and I think it’s great.
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The weird thing was watching the Rams win using the macro strategic concepts to beat us at our own game
Those days are gone!
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Pete has always been very macro in his defensive and offensive thinking.
So one can forgive a bit that we aren’t always especially smart or sharp on a tactical basis. Pete’s basic concepts shift the percentages toward the Hawks overall as long as execution discipline stays high. It’s been interesting to observe. . . .

Of course, it would be a lot more exciting if Pete had long ago hired somebody like Shanahan to run the offense. What would it look like, Pete’s macro + a more positive offense? Quinn in the Super Bowl. But nobody has created ‘team’ like Pete. It’s the most remarkable thing about his tenure, to me. I’m wanting to see more of that this season going forward, we’ve been a bit slack, there.
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Rams appear to be surprisingly improved
But as much as Seattle has struggled at times so far this year, I still have a good feeling about this game. I’m thinking it will be close, with Seattle pulling out a last second win.
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If there's a game we'd like to see the 2015 Rawls
It is this one. If Rawls can make them respect the run, we will have plenty of opportunities for hitting them with the big play. I think Wagz, KJ, and Kam are up to the challenge of containing Gurley and the screen game. Force him to try to beat up between the tackles and we will hold him to around 3yds/carry. The key on defense is to hit Goff often. Sacks, hurries, and hits will throw him off his game. He’s had a lot of time to make decisions. We need to change that.

What I’ll be watching for:

Our run blocking – if the line can create creases, Rawls will take advantage. This could be a statement game. I think he wants to show that no one puts baby in the corner.

Offensive Play calling – Does Bevell game plan to minimize the Aaron Donald effect. We will know by drive 3.

Our DLine – Are we showing gap discipline? Are we getting push up the middle? Can we get to Goff within 2 seconds of snap? If we can force him to make quick decisions, we will win.

Attendance – Now that they’re winning, will ticket sales increase?
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I just keep assuming

That the Rams always beat us when they sucked, so now that they look good they’ll lose. They’re clearly improved on offense, but I’m not believing the Rams hype until I see them beat the Hawks and look good doing it. If the Hawks come in with an offensive game plan to help against the pressure, and can execute at even a decent level, I’m not scared of that hyped up Rams offense.

I could be wrong, but I’ll reserve judgment for now.
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The Rams are good.
Fisher was bad.
Offense has some weapons and the defense has Wade Phillips. They’ll compete for the division.
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Just when Seattle's Offensive Line is getting better..
We play the Rams. The Rams have been Seattle’s kryptonite. Was it Jeff Fisher? Is it the Rams Defensive Line? Is it the Rams Special Teams? All of these have been a thorn in the Seahawks’ side. Jeff Fisher is no longer there, but the Rams’ offense is 10 times better now. I think our only hope is to confuse the rookie (ya he is a rookie because he hardly played last year) QB and get turnovers. 24-14 Rams is my prediction.
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The Rams would have lost the Dallas game had it not been for the turnovers.....

1. Run defense..If we can contain Gurley, which Seattle should do, providing our offense provides enough rest for our D, the Rams will be crippled offensively. 2. Win the turnover battle 3. put pressure on Goff….Our Defense can win this game for us. That leaves our Offense to figure out how to score 2 touchdowns and a handful of FGs, which should win the game.
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I'm worried about Walsh hitting a fingerful of FGs right now
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Usually I'm worried the Rams are going to beat the Seahawks
But for this game I’m pretty much expecting it. Hopefully they aren’t for real and this is the week they crash back to earth, but their Dline vs Seattle’s Oline and Gurley vs what the run D has looked like so far makes a win seem unlikely in my opinion.
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This will be a loss if...
…we get outcoached; players don’t execute their assignments, and if our offense loses time of possession. I put most of this of the offense and offensive play-calling. Oh, and I don’t think we can wait until the third or fourth quarter to get started.

If we can do the above three things for ALL FOUR QUARTERS, we could pull out a win. Credit to the Rams coaching staff, they are doing some good things, but their defensive scheme is not synchronized which could be to our advantage. Either way, it will be a tough game and I expect a win will be by single digits at best.
 

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If Goff hadn't played a game last year, people would be anointing him as the next big thing after the way he's played this year. People jumped the gun, decided he was a bust, and are holding it against the kid.

The Rams didn't trade anything close to "everything" for Goff. They gave up a reasonable package considering the jump to get a franchise QB from #15, and none of us are regretting it right now.

Frankly, I don't blame people for being hesitant to make a commitment on him. I hope it's indicative of people learning their lesson for the mistakes made last year (but I don't think it is). However, it does bother me that Goff is playing at an incredibly high level right now, yet how many people are even willing to admit that the kid has a high ceiling? He's playing like a top 5 QB right now. Will he keep that up? Who knows. But he's a 22 year old QB. The fact that he's playing like this at such a young age should demonstrate the potential he has. - jrry32

@jrry32 I just have to say, hats off to you, my man. You have been making cogent points over there, as you emerge from the deep night waters of Pugent Sound each night and hit the enemy with hellfire and facts of fury...........:shooting::seizure::seizure::seizure: They didn't even see you coming, my Ram-bo warrior! :cheers:

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...and a hats off salute to Alistair Corp for a rather clever title, and a good write-up. Good Journalism is not dead, after-all!
 

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After this resounding win I predict the Seashit fans will overly come to the realization that they need to go into rebuild mode! They aren't the team of years past and have more holes than pluses. They do have some good players but that isn't enough to will a season full schedule to the playoffs and a SB. This is the beginning of the end for them, they just don't realize it yet and it's going to be bitter sweet watching all those POS band wagon fucks leave the team.
 

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Sometimes it's truly painful reading what those 12tards post.
 

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I'm trying to not be overconfident, like I was vs the Skins. I do have a feeling building that the Rams might be good enough now on offense to roll the Seahawks' defense. They're close to that point I think. Only concern I have is whether Jared is ready to face such a savvy secondary.

The kid's come a long way, but man this is a huge test for him. Seahawks will ensure it's him that beats them. He's going to have to be on his game, and I am confident that he'll play well with a strong gameplan that I know McVay will have up, but there's that voice in my head tellin me to go easy, that maybe this is the game where some pressures get to him early and often and that he might struggle.

Either way we're going to know a lot more about our Rams team after this Sunday. Most exciting matchup and division implication game for us in a long, long time.
 

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I'm trying to not be overconfident, like I was vs the Skins. I do have a feeling building that the Rams might be good enough now on offense to roll the Seahawks' defense. They're close to that point I think. Only concern I have is whether Jared is ready to face such a savvy secondary.

The kid's come a long way, but man this is a huge test for him. Seahawks will ensure it's him that beats them. He's going to have to be on his game, and I am confident that he'll play well with a strong gameplan that I know McVay will have up, but there's that voice in my head tellin me to go easy, that maybe this is the game where some pressures get to him early and often and that he might struggle.

Either way we're going to know a lot more about our Rams team after this Sunday. Most exciting matchup and division implication game for us in a long, long time.

I think if we played the Skins again this Sunday, we'd beat them. They jumped on us early and had that Gurley fumble go there way. We still battled back and nearly stole a W.

Seattle will be tough. I agree that we shouldn't get overconfident. But I love the way this team is gelling. Of course, let's see what I have to say about that at 6:00 PM MT on Sunday. :LOL:
 

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Temps in the 80's and on grass on the road usually doesn't go well for this team. But something happened last Sunday night. An awakening if you will. Hawks 24-14.

I think the effects of the L-DOPA will wane come Sunday afternoon. (How's that for an obscure movie reference?)
 

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NFC West
Standings: LAR 3-1, SEA 2-2, ARI 2-2, SF 0-4

Week 5 will sort out some things atop the division. Either the Rams will take a two-game lead over the Seahawks, or Seattle will overtake LA on the tie-breaker.

Or they will tie. That happens in the NFC West with some regularity. With shorter overtime periods, their frequency ought to increase anyway. Tell me you wouldn’t take a 5-5 tie on Sunday.

Aaron Donald isn’t fair.

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Who wins the NFC West?
  • 20%
    Rams (3-1)
    (162 votes)

  • 79%
    Seahawks (2-2)
    (655 votes)

  • 0%
    Cardinals (2-2)
    (3 votes)

  • 1%
    49ers (0-4)
    (7 votes)
827 votes total
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Seattle’s pass rush ranks 28th, I believe, in pressures. And now Avril is out for the week.

I don’t get this, and need to look at more film. I thought Jones was getting some push, and Clark should be ready to improve further. Bennett didn’t look noticeably slower on film.

Maybe it’s one of those weird statistical variances, but I’m still a little worried, especially against the Rams, who have protected. Goff much better than last year.
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21% of summunumbitches checked the box next to LA. The 1% for the Niners I get. I give a dollar to buskers too. But 21% voting for LA?

A wag of the finger, shake of the head.
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The Rams are in first place, and play us at home Sunday sans Avril, Odhiambo, and Carson. After QB, maybe the three most important positions.
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Watch the Dallas/Rams game. Rams are luckier than they are good. We shut down Gurley we win.
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I'm so curious to see where the Rams go from here.
Obviously I’m banking on Seattle winning the division still, but the team is just so far outside of expectations. I can’t help but feel like their offense can only get worse and the defense can only get better, especially as they move in to the rougher part of their schedule.

How it all balances out is going to be a big deal though.
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Rams not to be taken lightly

Die hard Hawks fan here. Its certainly still early in the season, so its hard to tell where we are really at, and where we are headed. Based on the past few seasons and how we have come out of the gate to start this season. I am limiting my expectations and really just taking things one game at a time. I can no longer expect to chalk up an easy win vs. an supposedly inferior opponent.

Did you see the SF game ? Our Hawks are playing with the 2013 reputation, but teams are approaching them with 2016 tape. Meaning, we arent the 2013 team anymore. We struggle to win our "up for grabs" division and we tend to get exposed too often. Once we sneak into the playoffs, we can usually enjoy our last bottle of beer in our Hawks gear, because you all know we just dont have "it" anymore.

One constant has been the lack of an aggressive and consistent running game. I dont even want to mention the other super obvious stuff eg. O Line. Etc Id hate to say it, but I voted for the Rams. They are playing under a new head coach that has invigorated this young team.

Gurley is running with a full head of steam. The Rams have some frickin balls. Seattle got married and our balls our in the office, on the desk… being used as a paper weight to keep our lowes credit card bill from flying away. Until I see a sense of urgency and a much improved running game, we will continue to eek out games. I hope Im wrong but recent history proves otherwise.

I will be very surprised if we can get past LA this sunday. I hope we can turn this shit around. I think we all had such high hopes this season. I mean 4 and 0 in the pre season and a seemingly healthy roster. It just seemed like hey… watch out ! We’re back. I liked how we played in the pre season. That sense of competition and aggressiveness and sense of urgency. You all know what Im talking about. Lets get back to it.