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http://www.bucschat.com/topic/37269-rams-3rd-string-qb/
Rams 3rd string QB...
...is who we are most likely playing against!
http://www.rotoworld...1216/shaun-hill
Please, for the love of GOD, don't let's is fuck this up!!!
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Ramsforever -
You can't lose, we have no OL, we have no QB and we have no coaching.
I will bet anything the Rams will lose.
And I mean that.
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Who is the 3rd string QB for the Rams?
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Case Keenum...but looks like Hill could get the start still
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Hill will play. And the Bucs can make any journeyman look like a hall of famer as long as there is no pass rush.
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Exactly. No matter how good our defense turns out to be it seems like when we go against backup QB's we make them look like pro bowlers...
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Lovie is a defensive genius and so is Leslie Frazier. Dashon Goldson is making 9 million a year. The Rams don't have a chance.
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Is that not what happens every time. A Sunday morning newswoman stated that the Bucs "should have an easier time" because Cam Newton wasn't playing. I knew then we were in big trouble.
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http://www.pewterreport.com/Boards/index.php/topic,1318489.0.html
Bucs Vs Rams
Keys to the game:
1. Tame their defensive line.
Robert Quinn, Michael Brockers, James Laurenaitis, Aaron Donald... they have the ability to dominate our O-Line. They could stop runs in the backfield and keep McCown on his back all afternoon. It is imperative, nay.. it is MANDATORY that we play very well in the trench and give McCown a chance to find the open man.
2. Create open lanes for Doug Martin.
Against the Panthers Martin never had a chance. The only play I remember in which there was any running room, was the 50+ yarder from Jorvorskie Lane. I think we can do a little better against the Rams' defensive tackles who are better penetrators than run stuffers. Some have lost faith in Martin but as history shows us, if you give him a sliver of daylight he's gone. That has to happen this Sunday.
3. Win the turnover battle.
That starts with McCown and the offense. We must be smarter with the ball. Tedford has to assess McCown's performance and find ways to get the ball out of his hands lightning fast. Don't give him a chance to hold the ball too long because we don't want to see any more sacks, fumbles, or interceptions. Unfortunately, that takes away the effectiveness of Jackson and Evans running deep, but McCown can't be trusted at this point. Ball security must be the most important factor in our play. And conversely, we need to take the ball away. I like our chances of doing just that against a Rams offense that failed to find the end zone, getting blown out at home by the Vikings. If we win the T/O battle, we win the game.
Matchups
Our defense vs whichever backup QB they go with.
I realize Anderson carved us up in his first action in three years, but the task we are up against in stopping the Rams is going to be considerably easier. Anderson played like a veteran. He didn't make the mistakes that St Louis' QB did against the Vikings. I think we will be able to get to the QB and force some turnovers, much like we expected to see vs the Panthers.
Vincent Jackson/Mike Evans vs Trumaine Johnson/Janoris Jenkins.
The Rams have poor starting safeties. They will most likely find themselves out of position often, meaning there will be some good opportunities for one on one situations. When McCown gets time and is able to throw up the jump ball, Evans and Jackson have to come up big. Getting chunks of yardage is going to be very important in moving the football into scoring position.
Prediction: Our offense jumps out to an early lead and the defense wreaks havoc on Austin Davis, forcing 4 turnovers and shutting them out altogether. Bucs win 31-0.
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Wow, its like you didn't even watch yesterday's game at all. We'll be lucky to pull out a 17-14 win.
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Bucs win 31-0? What planet are you on?
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As bad as Sunday was. I think we crush the Rams.
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I know one thing. If they get blanked by St. Louis, there will be **CENSORED** set on fire.
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The good news is their offense looked DOA. They had to bench the backup and bring in the third stringer to do anything. For all the effort on WRs they have none worth mentioning. They had no run game so this game will likely be one of those ugly pillow fights where Drago can't make the mistakes he made for us today because the first team to 14 might win.
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McCown doesn't have a chance. This front 4 isn't far behind Carolina.
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Silly shrimp, he must not have been watching for all these years. Alas, as the buccaneers, it is their mandate to play up or down to the level of the opponent. It doesn't matter that we're playing a backup because we can never take advantage of that. There's no reason to believe our offense will look any better next week because the rams have an even better defensive line than Carolina, and we may well be without Logan mankins. If we do win it won't be pretty, it'll be standard, ugly buc ball.
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This was bad and losing maybe to the Lambs 3rd stringer next week would be bad nothing will ever be as bad as losing to straight off the couch Vinny Testeverde.
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Yep unfortunately it will be the Bucs MO to make the backup QB look like a star. Remember this team pasted us pretty good last year and their defense should be even better. With that said if we win the turnover battle (or at least keep it even) I believe we should win as I think our overall talent is a little bit better right now. Its going to come down to the D getting off the field on 3rd downs and Josh not making bonehead decisions with the ball.
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Truthfully it seems like the Lambs are even worse off. I'm reading up on their game and the word dismal doesn't describe it. This is at least heartening:
http://www.stltoday.com/gallery/ram...n_eb4da8a3-d4a6-5be0-a381-068291b2fdd5.html#4
My favorite being the line that "RG Davin Jospeh was worse - missing blocks and taking a key false start penalty.....ahhh yes, he is in his prime form.
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This is going to be an ugly game. Honestly, I see the Bucs winning this one 17-13. McCown throws 2 picks again and gets sacked 5 times, but whoever the Rams have at QB won't do as well as All Pro Anderson.
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Look, other than Gerald McCoy the Buccaneers didn't TOUCH and old immobile QB who had not started in 5 YEARS! Michael Johnson? NOWHERE to be seen. Did the Buccaneers not pay millions for his pass rushing? LOL MAYBE his 3 1/2 sacks last year was more indicative of of his skills than his 11 the year before. One year wonder, huge Buc blunder so far. There is just NO excuse for Goldson's muffing that gift INT that could have won the game. HOW much money does he make? Are you KIDDING ME?
So far this team looks like a mega failure. Oh and tell me what the media would be saying if Schiano was coaching yesterday? LOL Can you IMAGINE? Probably, we heard it last year.
So Lovie and the Buccaneers? SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!! Enough talk, start the freaking WALK and it had BETTER be starting next week. Because if a third string nobody QB comes into the Ray Jay and beats this team, if Josh McCown continues to play like a scared ROOKIE were talking high draft choice in 2015, another rookie QB and should be talking about another damn HEAD COACH!
Damn RIGHT I typed that. Is this team not built to "win now?" Well then? WIN FREAKING NOW!
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Their press coverage is downright suicidal. It should be, they got curb stomped a MIN team that won't be good. Now, the score is a bit of a misnomer because it was 13-3 late in the third but it sounds like the Rams never really threaten to do much and then went full meltdown.
Plus Hill and Long are hurt with Long's injury sounding more serious.
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I kind of agree, at leas ton the Bucs winning part. Not sure we'll crush them. They will get yards and will knock in a few FGs. I think Quick and Cook have big days for them. The D will stop Stacy for the most part. I see a 20-13 type win.
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This was our D yesterday...
Warning offensive language
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/A3...p4?versionId=prove6B95Pcm9Ia1RFSVdIV1vvvNmNqO
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We'll have 6 wins this year and the Rams will be one of them. We won't win again until after the bye week
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I'm generally an optimist (only about my Bucs, not life itself lol) but I agree with this. We need to beat the Rams because the following road stretch is going to be rough. I legtimately think we'll give Atlanta a run for their money but I don't know that we'll be able to keep up with them if it's a highscoring game. I think the tipping point will be that it's in Atlanta. We should be able to put up some points against them, though.
The next two games I'm not optimistic about, though. That Saints game may be a complete arse-raping. I wouldn't be surprised to see Brees go untouched the entire game and hit Graham for 2-3 tds.
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Oh great....another back up.
Everyone, add Austin Davis to their fantasy teams, and start his ass along with Jared Cook if you have him.
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Lol ^ it drove me nuts yesterday watching that scrub tear us up. We NEED to get pressure on whoever their lame duck QB is and force him into mistakes. They'll try to mitigate our pass rush by running the ball but their backs don't scare anyone. We NEED to curb stomp them to try to get some momentum going into the rough road trip they have ahead of them but it'll probably be an obnoxiously low scoring, nail biting game.
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I cant tell you how much i am waiting for the Davin vs GMC matchup because that should be considered a form of abuse.
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Just finished watching the full game of the Rams v. Vikings game. Here are some of my takeaways from the Rams.
Offensively:
Rams had poor run blocking for most of the game
Penalties, penalties, penalties.
Brian Quick and Jared Cook need to be accounted for.
Pass pro was decent early, faded toward the end of the 2nd qtr, and was bad throughout the 2nd half.
Heavy dose of Stacy when Hill left.
Austin Davis did nothing but check down.
Defensively:
Pretty good young fiery DBs in Gaines, McDonald, Joyner, McLeod, and Jenkins.
Did a decent job limiting Peterson.
Lots of interior penetration.
Blitzed quite regularly.
Vulnerable to screens and edge/stretch runs. Cordarrelle Patterson with 3 runs for 100+yds.
Penalties a problem on D as well.
Steady pass rush all day.
So, how do we match up? Sadly, pretty evenly. I don't think they will be able to move the ball well with Davis as QB. I don't think he has the confidence to make some of the throws we say Anderson make yesterday. I think we will do a decent job of stopping Stacy. They also shot themselves in the foot with penalties, so they may just do the same on Sunday. They will bring the heat on Sunday with their front 4 and also with blitzes, so McCown better learn to get rid of the ball quickly. They need to get the screens and edge/stretch runs working early. Spread that front 7 out a bit. Their DBs are feisty, but McCown should be able to take advantage of the height of our WRs vs the height of their DBs. Attack the middle of the field and the deep sidelines. Give Evans and Jackson some opportunity balls to back off those safeties.
Bucs 20-Rams 10.
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27-6 bucs. We will be fired up and eager to prove the kinks are worked out. If we take care of the ball we win BIG.
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Pretty much what I saw watching the game at the bar. This is a Greg Williams defense so they are gonna come after us left and right. That is bad news for our line but very good news for Evans and VJax because they should get one on one opportunities and matchups we can exploit.
their offense is terrible. they want to hide their lack of QB ability but don't have the line to push us, or really anyone, around.
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My prediction. Aaron Donald breaks McClown's leg on the 3rd snap of the game and The Cannon comes in to rally us to a 12-9 win over the wiley Case Keenum.
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Need Mankins back, for some pass blocking efficiency, some push. It has been said by Lovie himself that the Bucs will not be signing Incognito. He said he will choose from the ten they have, normally they roll with eight, and that is that. He is trimming the "fat". Unfortunately, the linemen are a mixed bag, and none of them are great, except for Mankins.
Mankins can use this for his edge in being a Buc: The Patriots offensive line was not good yesterday,and Tom Patriot was mauled. He can make the Bellicheat led Pats PAY by turning in a solid performance and uniting this group of rag tag nobodies into a formidable unit (I find it hard to even type that, but he will make them better,perhaps not world beaters, but a cohesive unit. No doubt in my mind.) Mankins is a better coach than Warhop, true story. Make the Pats PAY for letting you go Logan.
Be a Buccaneer Man! We fans are starved for something good, and Mankins can help bring it. Love the guy as a Buc, hope he heals up quick fast, rubs some tussin on that stuff, and get to hammering. And pray that whatever trashehap Lovie and War decide to keep can sustain for a while.
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Shawn Hill is the backup for Bradford.
If he plays, there is some history.
In Dec 2007. Shawn Hill started as a backup QB for SF and SF ended up beating the Bucs/
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This should be a convincing win for us if we stand any shot at being anything other than bad this year. St. Louis is one of the worst teams in the league with their 3rd string QB starting.
Rams 3rd string QB...
...is who we are most likely playing against!
http://www.rotoworld...1216/shaun-hill
Please, for the love of GOD, don't let's is fuck this up!!!
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Ramsforever -
You can't lose, we have no OL, we have no QB and we have no coaching.
I will bet anything the Rams will lose.
And I mean that.
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Who is the 3rd string QB for the Rams?
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Case Keenum...but looks like Hill could get the start still
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Hill will play. And the Bucs can make any journeyman look like a hall of famer as long as there is no pass rush.
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Exactly. No matter how good our defense turns out to be it seems like when we go against backup QB's we make them look like pro bowlers...
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Lovie is a defensive genius and so is Leslie Frazier. Dashon Goldson is making 9 million a year. The Rams don't have a chance.
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Is that not what happens every time. A Sunday morning newswoman stated that the Bucs "should have an easier time" because Cam Newton wasn't playing. I knew then we were in big trouble.
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http://www.pewterreport.com/Boards/index.php/topic,1318489.0.html
Bucs Vs Rams
Keys to the game:
1. Tame their defensive line.
Robert Quinn, Michael Brockers, James Laurenaitis, Aaron Donald... they have the ability to dominate our O-Line. They could stop runs in the backfield and keep McCown on his back all afternoon. It is imperative, nay.. it is MANDATORY that we play very well in the trench and give McCown a chance to find the open man.
2. Create open lanes for Doug Martin.
Against the Panthers Martin never had a chance. The only play I remember in which there was any running room, was the 50+ yarder from Jorvorskie Lane. I think we can do a little better against the Rams' defensive tackles who are better penetrators than run stuffers. Some have lost faith in Martin but as history shows us, if you give him a sliver of daylight he's gone. That has to happen this Sunday.
3. Win the turnover battle.
That starts with McCown and the offense. We must be smarter with the ball. Tedford has to assess McCown's performance and find ways to get the ball out of his hands lightning fast. Don't give him a chance to hold the ball too long because we don't want to see any more sacks, fumbles, or interceptions. Unfortunately, that takes away the effectiveness of Jackson and Evans running deep, but McCown can't be trusted at this point. Ball security must be the most important factor in our play. And conversely, we need to take the ball away. I like our chances of doing just that against a Rams offense that failed to find the end zone, getting blown out at home by the Vikings. If we win the T/O battle, we win the game.
Matchups
Our defense vs whichever backup QB they go with.
I realize Anderson carved us up in his first action in three years, but the task we are up against in stopping the Rams is going to be considerably easier. Anderson played like a veteran. He didn't make the mistakes that St Louis' QB did against the Vikings. I think we will be able to get to the QB and force some turnovers, much like we expected to see vs the Panthers.
Vincent Jackson/Mike Evans vs Trumaine Johnson/Janoris Jenkins.
The Rams have poor starting safeties. They will most likely find themselves out of position often, meaning there will be some good opportunities for one on one situations. When McCown gets time and is able to throw up the jump ball, Evans and Jackson have to come up big. Getting chunks of yardage is going to be very important in moving the football into scoring position.
Prediction: Our offense jumps out to an early lead and the defense wreaks havoc on Austin Davis, forcing 4 turnovers and shutting them out altogether. Bucs win 31-0.
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Wow, its like you didn't even watch yesterday's game at all. We'll be lucky to pull out a 17-14 win.
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Bucs win 31-0? What planet are you on?
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As bad as Sunday was. I think we crush the Rams.
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I know one thing. If they get blanked by St. Louis, there will be **CENSORED** set on fire.
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The good news is their offense looked DOA. They had to bench the backup and bring in the third stringer to do anything. For all the effort on WRs they have none worth mentioning. They had no run game so this game will likely be one of those ugly pillow fights where Drago can't make the mistakes he made for us today because the first team to 14 might win.
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McCown doesn't have a chance. This front 4 isn't far behind Carolina.
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Silly shrimp, he must not have been watching for all these years. Alas, as the buccaneers, it is their mandate to play up or down to the level of the opponent. It doesn't matter that we're playing a backup because we can never take advantage of that. There's no reason to believe our offense will look any better next week because the rams have an even better defensive line than Carolina, and we may well be without Logan mankins. If we do win it won't be pretty, it'll be standard, ugly buc ball.
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This was bad and losing maybe to the Lambs 3rd stringer next week would be bad nothing will ever be as bad as losing to straight off the couch Vinny Testeverde.
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Yep unfortunately it will be the Bucs MO to make the backup QB look like a star. Remember this team pasted us pretty good last year and their defense should be even better. With that said if we win the turnover battle (or at least keep it even) I believe we should win as I think our overall talent is a little bit better right now. Its going to come down to the D getting off the field on 3rd downs and Josh not making bonehead decisions with the ball.
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Truthfully it seems like the Lambs are even worse off. I'm reading up on their game and the word dismal doesn't describe it. This is at least heartening:
http://www.stltoday.com/gallery/ram...n_eb4da8a3-d4a6-5be0-a381-068291b2fdd5.html#4
My favorite being the line that "RG Davin Jospeh was worse - missing blocks and taking a key false start penalty.....ahhh yes, he is in his prime form.
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This is going to be an ugly game. Honestly, I see the Bucs winning this one 17-13. McCown throws 2 picks again and gets sacked 5 times, but whoever the Rams have at QB won't do as well as All Pro Anderson.
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Look, other than Gerald McCoy the Buccaneers didn't TOUCH and old immobile QB who had not started in 5 YEARS! Michael Johnson? NOWHERE to be seen. Did the Buccaneers not pay millions for his pass rushing? LOL MAYBE his 3 1/2 sacks last year was more indicative of of his skills than his 11 the year before. One year wonder, huge Buc blunder so far. There is just NO excuse for Goldson's muffing that gift INT that could have won the game. HOW much money does he make? Are you KIDDING ME?
So far this team looks like a mega failure. Oh and tell me what the media would be saying if Schiano was coaching yesterday? LOL Can you IMAGINE? Probably, we heard it last year.
So Lovie and the Buccaneers? SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!! Enough talk, start the freaking WALK and it had BETTER be starting next week. Because if a third string nobody QB comes into the Ray Jay and beats this team, if Josh McCown continues to play like a scared ROOKIE were talking high draft choice in 2015, another rookie QB and should be talking about another damn HEAD COACH!
Damn RIGHT I typed that. Is this team not built to "win now?" Well then? WIN FREAKING NOW!
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Their press coverage is downright suicidal. It should be, they got curb stomped a MIN team that won't be good. Now, the score is a bit of a misnomer because it was 13-3 late in the third but it sounds like the Rams never really threaten to do much and then went full meltdown.
Plus Hill and Long are hurt with Long's injury sounding more serious.
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I kind of agree, at leas ton the Bucs winning part. Not sure we'll crush them. They will get yards and will knock in a few FGs. I think Quick and Cook have big days for them. The D will stop Stacy for the most part. I see a 20-13 type win.
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This was our D yesterday...
Warning offensive language
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/A3...p4?versionId=prove6B95Pcm9Ia1RFSVdIV1vvvNmNqO
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We'll have 6 wins this year and the Rams will be one of them. We won't win again until after the bye week
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I'm generally an optimist (only about my Bucs, not life itself lol) but I agree with this. We need to beat the Rams because the following road stretch is going to be rough. I legtimately think we'll give Atlanta a run for their money but I don't know that we'll be able to keep up with them if it's a highscoring game. I think the tipping point will be that it's in Atlanta. We should be able to put up some points against them, though.
The next two games I'm not optimistic about, though. That Saints game may be a complete arse-raping. I wouldn't be surprised to see Brees go untouched the entire game and hit Graham for 2-3 tds.
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Oh great....another back up.
Everyone, add Austin Davis to their fantasy teams, and start his ass along with Jared Cook if you have him.
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Lol ^ it drove me nuts yesterday watching that scrub tear us up. We NEED to get pressure on whoever their lame duck QB is and force him into mistakes. They'll try to mitigate our pass rush by running the ball but their backs don't scare anyone. We NEED to curb stomp them to try to get some momentum going into the rough road trip they have ahead of them but it'll probably be an obnoxiously low scoring, nail biting game.
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I cant tell you how much i am waiting for the Davin vs GMC matchup because that should be considered a form of abuse.
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Just finished watching the full game of the Rams v. Vikings game. Here are some of my takeaways from the Rams.
Offensively:
Rams had poor run blocking for most of the game
Penalties, penalties, penalties.
Brian Quick and Jared Cook need to be accounted for.
Pass pro was decent early, faded toward the end of the 2nd qtr, and was bad throughout the 2nd half.
Heavy dose of Stacy when Hill left.
Austin Davis did nothing but check down.
Defensively:
Pretty good young fiery DBs in Gaines, McDonald, Joyner, McLeod, and Jenkins.
Did a decent job limiting Peterson.
Lots of interior penetration.
Blitzed quite regularly.
Vulnerable to screens and edge/stretch runs. Cordarrelle Patterson with 3 runs for 100+yds.
Penalties a problem on D as well.
Steady pass rush all day.
So, how do we match up? Sadly, pretty evenly. I don't think they will be able to move the ball well with Davis as QB. I don't think he has the confidence to make some of the throws we say Anderson make yesterday. I think we will do a decent job of stopping Stacy. They also shot themselves in the foot with penalties, so they may just do the same on Sunday. They will bring the heat on Sunday with their front 4 and also with blitzes, so McCown better learn to get rid of the ball quickly. They need to get the screens and edge/stretch runs working early. Spread that front 7 out a bit. Their DBs are feisty, but McCown should be able to take advantage of the height of our WRs vs the height of their DBs. Attack the middle of the field and the deep sidelines. Give Evans and Jackson some opportunity balls to back off those safeties.
Bucs 20-Rams 10.
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27-6 bucs. We will be fired up and eager to prove the kinks are worked out. If we take care of the ball we win BIG.
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Pretty much what I saw watching the game at the bar. This is a Greg Williams defense so they are gonna come after us left and right. That is bad news for our line but very good news for Evans and VJax because they should get one on one opportunities and matchups we can exploit.
their offense is terrible. they want to hide their lack of QB ability but don't have the line to push us, or really anyone, around.
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My prediction. Aaron Donald breaks McClown's leg on the 3rd snap of the game and The Cannon comes in to rally us to a 12-9 win over the wiley Case Keenum.
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Need Mankins back, for some pass blocking efficiency, some push. It has been said by Lovie himself that the Bucs will not be signing Incognito. He said he will choose from the ten they have, normally they roll with eight, and that is that. He is trimming the "fat". Unfortunately, the linemen are a mixed bag, and none of them are great, except for Mankins.
Mankins can use this for his edge in being a Buc: The Patriots offensive line was not good yesterday,and Tom Patriot was mauled. He can make the Bellicheat led Pats PAY by turning in a solid performance and uniting this group of rag tag nobodies into a formidable unit (I find it hard to even type that, but he will make them better,perhaps not world beaters, but a cohesive unit. No doubt in my mind.) Mankins is a better coach than Warhop, true story. Make the Pats PAY for letting you go Logan.
Be a Buccaneer Man! We fans are starved for something good, and Mankins can help bring it. Love the guy as a Buc, hope he heals up quick fast, rubs some tussin on that stuff, and get to hammering. And pray that whatever trashehap Lovie and War decide to keep can sustain for a while.
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Shawn Hill is the backup for Bradford.
If he plays, there is some history.
In Dec 2007. Shawn Hill started as a backup QB for SF and SF ended up beating the Bucs/
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This should be a convincing win for us if we stand any shot at being anything other than bad this year. St. Louis is one of the worst teams in the league with their 3rd string QB starting.
