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This thread should be hilarious. What a down-trodden, sad-sack fanbase. Oh how the mighty have fallen and so quickly. Just think, a couple of years back, with Jim Harbaugh at the helm, they were in the Super Bowl. "One day the DNA rifle-of-the-walk, the next day a feather duster." - Tina Turner in
'Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.'
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http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/12...francisco-underdogs-in-every-game-this-season
49ers-Rams spread: San Francisco underdogs in every game this season
By David Fucillo @davidfucillo
The San Francisco 49ers face the St. Louis Rams this coming weekend to close out their 2015 NFL schedule. The 49ers opened as a 3.5-point underdog, and the line is ranging between that and a field goal, depending on the sportsbook you use.
If this line holds, the 49ers will have been underdogs in every single game this season. They opened the season as a field goal underdog to the Minnesota Vikings (a win that looks more and more bizarre with each passing week). They then traveled to Pittsburgh and Arizona. They returned home from two beatings to face a then unbeaten Green Bay Packers team.
They did get wins over the Baltimore Ravens and Atlanta Falcons, but both games were followed by matchups with the Seattle Seahawks, so they were not going to be favored in either of those games. They followed up their win over Chicago with a road game in Cleveland, and were underdogs in that one.
The 49ers closest lines through 15 games have been 2.5-points at home against Baltimore and on the road against Cleveland. They have only been a double digit underdog once, at +14 in Seattle. They were +9.5 when they hosted the Atlanta Falcons, +8.5 in Detroit, +7.5 four times (vs. GB, @ NYG, @ STL, vs. AZ), and +7 twice (@ AZ, vs. CIN).
Had the Rams gotten beaten handily by the Seahawks, the line would have been close, but instead, it is all but assured of heading into the game with the Rams favored. From a historical perspective, it is kind of fascinating. The 49ers have been favored in at least one game each season, dating back to at least 2005. In that season, they were favorites against the Houston Texans in the final game of the regular season.
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we need three years of constant underdogging
and a banner-towing plane to fall on the head of a certain guy. that would truly rebuild the organization.
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I imagine this is going to be a hideous game
The league’s two worst offenses at the venue where the Niners’ defense plays pretty well. Not sure both teams can combine for 30+ points.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Tomsula pulls out the kitchen sink on Sunday and runs fake punts and all kinds of David strategies to pull out one last win and save his job.
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please no
literally the worst thing that could happen is the 9ers coming out with reckless abandon and actually winning this game. York and the CS would feel so validated and they would be certain that things were finally turning around. It would be the Chicago game all over again but without the drubbing by Cleveland to set everyone straight.
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it might be telling him ...
… we’ve outperformed expectations by winning four games we weren’t suppose to.
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So, Vegas thinks this team is actually worse than Nolan's first season as Head Coach
which was 2005? After the Rams beat Seattle yesterday, you can’t really argue with that line. Fisher is doing everything he can to keep his job, which may well happen if they beat us handily next Sunday. He pulled this trick off for quite a few years in Houston and Tennessee before they finally had enough.
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We got to lose this game bad
I don’t want a feel good moral victory like the end of the 2010 season to possibly help keep Tomsula around another year. This has to be an embarrassing loss.
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if it's embarrassing you want
then tomsula’s your guy!
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Gabbert under pressure
At first, it looked like Gabbert was much more poised than Kap under pressure and possessed good escapability. Since then, he’s taken so many bad sacks that I have to say they’re both liabilities when the pressure comes. Rams can definitely bring the pass-rush and I expect that to be enough to embarrass us.
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Yeah, there DL is pretty dang nasty
Not sure if Gabbert will survive this.
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Gabbert
Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is what I’ve noticed. Gabbert’s first start looked like a QB that was resurrected from the dead. He showed some really good things and didn’t look anything like the QB in Jacksonville. He looked like a guy playing with nothing to lose.
He now looks timid and like a guy playing to keep his job. I’m not sure why the change since there is literally no one behind him or looking over his shoulder, but he looks like he’s playing so tight and doesn’t want to make mistakes, so he can keep the starting role next season, that he looks sub par. Don’t get me wrong, the o-line play is bad and the play calling is worse, but he just looks like he’s playing a different style of football compared to his first start this season.
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Perhaps it's the mental aspect
And he’s starting to regress back to his Jacksonville self. It happens when a QB takes too many hits, they start fearing the next one, thus tighten up and suck
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Playing not to make mistakes
That attitude is passed down by the coaching staff.
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The best QBs behind this line and with this CS will have PTSD after a few games
Good examples of what a pass rush (or lack or o-line, or both) can do to a team’s game plan can be found in how Aaron Rodgers and the Packers got manhandled yesterday. Same with Cam Newton and the Panthers. Or Brady and the Patriots. All 3 looked like HS teams at times when the pass rush destroyed their mighty throwing offenses.
It’s no wonder the 49ers are 4-11 now. If the Rams defense shows up next Sunday I could see this game having a baseball score of something like 9-3. I’m secretly hoping for a shutout of the 49ers so they can win the "lowest scoring offense ever" award.
Whatever it takes to get the CEO, GM, and CS out of here…
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49-0
would be ironically perfect.
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Beat up on Wilson
The Rams D beat up on Wilson more than any team I have seen this year. I cringe when I think about what they are going to do to our guy.
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I am just going to say what everyone is thinking
Out of all the 32 teams in the NFL.
Our 49ers team is the worst of all. We are the last placed team in the NFL. The Browns have proven this to be true. And we will stay at the bottom for a long time sadly.
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Will it be a new record, if 9ers lose again to Rams, making 0-6 in division?
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Well at least we are not alone in the NFC west
The Cardinals are the best team in the NFC west now and Seattle should be returning to how bad they were before. All the Rams need is a good Head Coach and they will surpass Seattle too.
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Not sure you can count seattle out
They are going to be in cap hell, but if they are able to restock through the draft, they could be a good team for years to come. They already have a franchise QB in place that they can’t build around, whereas St Louis does not.
Since franchise QB’s don’t grow on trees, St Louis could be waiting a long time before they get one, and by that time there is no guarantee the current players will be around by then. I see AZ dropping off a bit once Plamer is retired. He’ll be lucky to play another 1-2 years. Arrians will keep them competitive, but I just don’t see anyone being a juggernaut in the NFC west after the 2016 season.
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Yep all the Rams need is a QB and head coach
I will take Bruce Arians over Pete Carroll. All they need is a QB.
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I would definitely take ARians over Carroll any day
Although Carroll has done a nice job in his stint with Seattle, I don’t think his Rah Rah, high intensity style is a good fit long term in the NFL. It’s great for 18 year old to 22 year old college kids, but I think it will wear thin with the NFL players, kind of like Harbaugh, and eventually the FO will need to make a change.
Arians is no nonsense and expects guys to be pros and do their job, which is a style that lasts a bit longer in the NFL, and I think more players respect it because they feel like they are being treated like men, not college kids. I played for both types, and I can definitely say I enjoyed the coach that was no nonsense, no cheerleader, expects each person on the team to come to work do their job.
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This will be a 2-0 game in O/T
I can almost see how this game will play out… Neither team is an offensive powerhouse, so the game ends 0-0 in regulation. In overtime, we win the coin toss, take the kick off in the endzone for a touchback, then Tomsula attempts to challenge the spot at the 20 yard line but is told he can’t. Gabbert gets sacked 3 times for a loss of 21 yards and a Rams safety. End of game.
Combined stats for both teams:
12 first downs,
20 punts
200 yards passing
8 turnovers
9 dropped passes (all by Vance McDonald)
15 sacks (all against Pears)
38 penalties (new NFL record)
45 missed tackles
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LOL, good post
I think the 49ers defense will once again show up at home, so Rams will likely not score much on offense. They will however turn this game into a farce when they decimate the 49ers offense and score at least 14 off them with pick sixes and backfield fumble recovery TD returns. I hold no hope we’ll win this game, but am still interested in how it’ll be lost.
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http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/184317-go-rams/
Go Rams??
Yes. A Ram win increases the odds of Tomsula getting fired.
No. Win at all cost, even if it means keeping Tomsula
I'm all in for cheering the Rams on. Going 0-6 in the division makes Tomsula look really bad. I'm also hoping for a plethora of dumb penalties and miss tackles. I just hope our players don't get hurt. We all know how dirty Fisher can be.
Plus a loss makes Jed's end of the year press conference all the more interesting. I know that little winnie is hoping for a niner win, not because he loves this team, but because it will make keeping Tomsula easier and his life a little easier too. Two things I don't want. I wish we were 0-16 to make Tomsula's demise a done deal.
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Hell yes GO RAMS!!!!
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Top 5 pick? Check please.
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Its a no lose scenario, I'm pleased when my Niners win, but if they lose this season, and Tomsula gets fired, great! If we drop to the 4 spot in draft, cool, so win or lose we win!
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Rams will throw the game so that Niners keep Tomsula
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Niners will win this game and get bumped out of the top 10 draft.
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Guys, stop it . Tomfoola is not going to be HC shortly after the season is over. I am hoping right after the whistle blows in the rams game.
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Tomsula stays, guys. We need to collectively move on to the next stage of grief which is acceptance... or flying banners of the stadium during Super Bowl week and the last game.
Draft position is all that hinges on this game.
But we can't let Herman Edwards down. So we have to win.
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f**k Jed. I hope the Rams cream us 55-0 and I hope the stadium is empty or full or Rams fans.
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I can see it now...
Niners kick a late FG to win the game 13-16 and Tomsula gets a gatorade bath. Jed makes an announcement in the locker room that tomsula is returning and the team cheers.
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Half the team would retire immediately
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Tomsula is undefeated when coaching the last game of the season.
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I don't see Fisher getting out coached by Tomsula. I bet you Fisher will run a bunch of trick plays, and leave Tomsula dumbfounded, with that patented "WTF just happens look".
My hatred for Jed, and what he did to this team, is so great that I'm willing to cheer for the Rams. Harbaugh was willing to work things out and stay... Ugh, I f**king hate you Jed.
Harbs would have us at 8-8 at least. Kaepernick would've been benched much sonner. And he would be grooming Gabbert into a starter (Alex Smith type of QB) role for 2016. Or maybe Kaep would be playing like he did in 2013. Fangio would still be here too. And we would've had a new OC.
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I'm a fan. I want the 49ers to win. But it won't matter what I think because the Rams will win 31-2
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To be honest it's hard to cheer against Todd Gurley & Aaron Donald
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GO RAMS. f**k TOMSULA
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Yet high draft picks don't automatically lead to success. Just ask Oakland, st. Louis, Cleveland and Jacksonville.
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No way we win this one, rams are a better team.... tomsula gonna get canned regardless
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As a diehard 49ers fan of llke 4 weeks i will cheer my beloved team to the end
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I hate Greg Williams. I hope one of our guys goes flying into their sideline and spears that dirty f**k and "kills his head"
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LOL I agree!
he just looks like an ass.
'Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.'
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http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/12...francisco-underdogs-in-every-game-this-season
49ers-Rams spread: San Francisco underdogs in every game this season
By David Fucillo @davidfucillo
The San Francisco 49ers face the St. Louis Rams this coming weekend to close out their 2015 NFL schedule. The 49ers opened as a 3.5-point underdog, and the line is ranging between that and a field goal, depending on the sportsbook you use.
If this line holds, the 49ers will have been underdogs in every single game this season. They opened the season as a field goal underdog to the Minnesota Vikings (a win that looks more and more bizarre with each passing week). They then traveled to Pittsburgh and Arizona. They returned home from two beatings to face a then unbeaten Green Bay Packers team.
They did get wins over the Baltimore Ravens and Atlanta Falcons, but both games were followed by matchups with the Seattle Seahawks, so they were not going to be favored in either of those games. They followed up their win over Chicago with a road game in Cleveland, and were underdogs in that one.
The 49ers closest lines through 15 games have been 2.5-points at home against Baltimore and on the road against Cleveland. They have only been a double digit underdog once, at +14 in Seattle. They were +9.5 when they hosted the Atlanta Falcons, +8.5 in Detroit, +7.5 four times (vs. GB, @ NYG, @ STL, vs. AZ), and +7 twice (@ AZ, vs. CIN).
Had the Rams gotten beaten handily by the Seahawks, the line would have been close, but instead, it is all but assured of heading into the game with the Rams favored. From a historical perspective, it is kind of fascinating. The 49ers have been favored in at least one game each season, dating back to at least 2005. In that season, they were favorites against the Houston Texans in the final game of the regular season.
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we need three years of constant underdogging
and a banner-towing plane to fall on the head of a certain guy. that would truly rebuild the organization.
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I imagine this is going to be a hideous game
The league’s two worst offenses at the venue where the Niners’ defense plays pretty well. Not sure both teams can combine for 30+ points.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Tomsula pulls out the kitchen sink on Sunday and runs fake punts and all kinds of David strategies to pull out one last win and save his job.
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please no
literally the worst thing that could happen is the 9ers coming out with reckless abandon and actually winning this game. York and the CS would feel so validated and they would be certain that things were finally turning around. It would be the Chicago game all over again but without the drubbing by Cleveland to set everyone straight.
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it might be telling him ...
… we’ve outperformed expectations by winning four games we weren’t suppose to.
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So, Vegas thinks this team is actually worse than Nolan's first season as Head Coach
which was 2005? After the Rams beat Seattle yesterday, you can’t really argue with that line. Fisher is doing everything he can to keep his job, which may well happen if they beat us handily next Sunday. He pulled this trick off for quite a few years in Houston and Tennessee before they finally had enough.
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We got to lose this game bad
I don’t want a feel good moral victory like the end of the 2010 season to possibly help keep Tomsula around another year. This has to be an embarrassing loss.
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if it's embarrassing you want
then tomsula’s your guy!
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Gabbert under pressure
At first, it looked like Gabbert was much more poised than Kap under pressure and possessed good escapability. Since then, he’s taken so many bad sacks that I have to say they’re both liabilities when the pressure comes. Rams can definitely bring the pass-rush and I expect that to be enough to embarrass us.
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Yeah, there DL is pretty dang nasty
Not sure if Gabbert will survive this.
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Gabbert
Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is what I’ve noticed. Gabbert’s first start looked like a QB that was resurrected from the dead. He showed some really good things and didn’t look anything like the QB in Jacksonville. He looked like a guy playing with nothing to lose.
He now looks timid and like a guy playing to keep his job. I’m not sure why the change since there is literally no one behind him or looking over his shoulder, but he looks like he’s playing so tight and doesn’t want to make mistakes, so he can keep the starting role next season, that he looks sub par. Don’t get me wrong, the o-line play is bad and the play calling is worse, but he just looks like he’s playing a different style of football compared to his first start this season.
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Perhaps it's the mental aspect
And he’s starting to regress back to his Jacksonville self. It happens when a QB takes too many hits, they start fearing the next one, thus tighten up and suck
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Playing not to make mistakes
That attitude is passed down by the coaching staff.
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The best QBs behind this line and with this CS will have PTSD after a few games
Good examples of what a pass rush (or lack or o-line, or both) can do to a team’s game plan can be found in how Aaron Rodgers and the Packers got manhandled yesterday. Same with Cam Newton and the Panthers. Or Brady and the Patriots. All 3 looked like HS teams at times when the pass rush destroyed their mighty throwing offenses.
It’s no wonder the 49ers are 4-11 now. If the Rams defense shows up next Sunday I could see this game having a baseball score of something like 9-3. I’m secretly hoping for a shutout of the 49ers so they can win the "lowest scoring offense ever" award.
Whatever it takes to get the CEO, GM, and CS out of here…
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49-0
would be ironically perfect.
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Beat up on Wilson
The Rams D beat up on Wilson more than any team I have seen this year. I cringe when I think about what they are going to do to our guy.
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I am just going to say what everyone is thinking
Out of all the 32 teams in the NFL.
Our 49ers team is the worst of all. We are the last placed team in the NFL. The Browns have proven this to be true. And we will stay at the bottom for a long time sadly.
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Will it be a new record, if 9ers lose again to Rams, making 0-6 in division?
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Well at least we are not alone in the NFC west
The Cardinals are the best team in the NFC west now and Seattle should be returning to how bad they were before. All the Rams need is a good Head Coach and they will surpass Seattle too.
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Not sure you can count seattle out
They are going to be in cap hell, but if they are able to restock through the draft, they could be a good team for years to come. They already have a franchise QB in place that they can’t build around, whereas St Louis does not.
Since franchise QB’s don’t grow on trees, St Louis could be waiting a long time before they get one, and by that time there is no guarantee the current players will be around by then. I see AZ dropping off a bit once Plamer is retired. He’ll be lucky to play another 1-2 years. Arrians will keep them competitive, but I just don’t see anyone being a juggernaut in the NFC west after the 2016 season.
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Yep all the Rams need is a QB and head coach
I will take Bruce Arians over Pete Carroll. All they need is a QB.
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I would definitely take ARians over Carroll any day
Although Carroll has done a nice job in his stint with Seattle, I don’t think his Rah Rah, high intensity style is a good fit long term in the NFL. It’s great for 18 year old to 22 year old college kids, but I think it will wear thin with the NFL players, kind of like Harbaugh, and eventually the FO will need to make a change.
Arians is no nonsense and expects guys to be pros and do their job, which is a style that lasts a bit longer in the NFL, and I think more players respect it because they feel like they are being treated like men, not college kids. I played for both types, and I can definitely say I enjoyed the coach that was no nonsense, no cheerleader, expects each person on the team to come to work do their job.
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This will be a 2-0 game in O/T
I can almost see how this game will play out… Neither team is an offensive powerhouse, so the game ends 0-0 in regulation. In overtime, we win the coin toss, take the kick off in the endzone for a touchback, then Tomsula attempts to challenge the spot at the 20 yard line but is told he can’t. Gabbert gets sacked 3 times for a loss of 21 yards and a Rams safety. End of game.
Combined stats for both teams:
12 first downs,
20 punts
200 yards passing
8 turnovers
9 dropped passes (all by Vance McDonald)
15 sacks (all against Pears)
38 penalties (new NFL record)
45 missed tackles
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LOL, good post
I think the 49ers defense will once again show up at home, so Rams will likely not score much on offense. They will however turn this game into a farce when they decimate the 49ers offense and score at least 14 off them with pick sixes and backfield fumble recovery TD returns. I hold no hope we’ll win this game, but am still interested in how it’ll be lost.
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http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/184317-go-rams/
Go Rams??
Yes. A Ram win increases the odds of Tomsula getting fired.
No. Win at all cost, even if it means keeping Tomsula
I'm all in for cheering the Rams on. Going 0-6 in the division makes Tomsula look really bad. I'm also hoping for a plethora of dumb penalties and miss tackles. I just hope our players don't get hurt. We all know how dirty Fisher can be.
Plus a loss makes Jed's end of the year press conference all the more interesting. I know that little winnie is hoping for a niner win, not because he loves this team, but because it will make keeping Tomsula easier and his life a little easier too. Two things I don't want. I wish we were 0-16 to make Tomsula's demise a done deal.
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Hell yes GO RAMS!!!!
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Top 5 pick? Check please.
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Its a no lose scenario, I'm pleased when my Niners win, but if they lose this season, and Tomsula gets fired, great! If we drop to the 4 spot in draft, cool, so win or lose we win!
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Rams will throw the game so that Niners keep Tomsula
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Niners will win this game and get bumped out of the top 10 draft.
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Guys, stop it . Tomfoola is not going to be HC shortly after the season is over. I am hoping right after the whistle blows in the rams game.
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Tomsula stays, guys. We need to collectively move on to the next stage of grief which is acceptance... or flying banners of the stadium during Super Bowl week and the last game.
Draft position is all that hinges on this game.
But we can't let Herman Edwards down. So we have to win.
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f**k Jed. I hope the Rams cream us 55-0 and I hope the stadium is empty or full or Rams fans.
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I can see it now...
Niners kick a late FG to win the game 13-16 and Tomsula gets a gatorade bath. Jed makes an announcement in the locker room that tomsula is returning and the team cheers.
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Half the team would retire immediately
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Tomsula is undefeated when coaching the last game of the season.
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I don't see Fisher getting out coached by Tomsula. I bet you Fisher will run a bunch of trick plays, and leave Tomsula dumbfounded, with that patented "WTF just happens look".
My hatred for Jed, and what he did to this team, is so great that I'm willing to cheer for the Rams. Harbaugh was willing to work things out and stay... Ugh, I f**king hate you Jed.
Harbs would have us at 8-8 at least. Kaepernick would've been benched much sonner. And he would be grooming Gabbert into a starter (Alex Smith type of QB) role for 2016. Or maybe Kaep would be playing like he did in 2013. Fangio would still be here too. And we would've had a new OC.
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I'm a fan. I want the 49ers to win. But it won't matter what I think because the Rams will win 31-2
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To be honest it's hard to cheer against Todd Gurley & Aaron Donald
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GO RAMS. f**k TOMSULA
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Yet high draft picks don't automatically lead to success. Just ask Oakland, st. Louis, Cleveland and Jacksonville.
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No way we win this one, rams are a better team.... tomsula gonna get canned regardless
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As a diehard 49ers fan of llke 4 weeks i will cheer my beloved team to the end
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I hate Greg Williams. I hope one of our guys goes flying into their sideline and spears that dirty f**k and "kills his head"
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LOL I agree!
he just looks like an ass.
