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If someone can watch Tebow play....with horrible mechanics, with a lack of arm strength the make most intermediate NFL throws or throws in traffic....if someone can watch him throw and really think he can be an NFL QB....well, nothing anyone is going to say is going to change that mind.
He is not capable of throwing the ball at an NFL level.
That is it.
 

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Oh i agree now. Its pretty much over, he is like 29.

I was more speaking the seasons of Case Keenum and Shaun Hill.

Rams D could have used someone like him.

I've never liked the Tebow hype BS personally and how the media blew things out of proportion but I would have been curious to see what happened with him at TE like they wanted to switch him to.

I know how you feel about Tebow because I felt the same way about Terelle Pryor a few years ago and feel he would have been a better option than what we fielded at QB those years. Ofc that wasnt a popular opinion but I'm firmly convinced Kellen Clemens, Austin Davis, or Shaun Hill were a worse choice for us in that time period.
 

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I don't care if I get hated on for saying this...the Rams would have won more games since Bradford's injury against Carolina in 2013 with Tebow starting than the guys we started since then. And I think we'd have had a winning season in 2014 and/or 2015.
 

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I don't care if I get hated on for saying this...the Rams would have won more games since Bradford's injury against Carolina in 2013 with Tebow starting than the guys we started since then. And I think we'd have had a winning season in 2014 and/or 2015.

I agree
 

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I don't care if I get hated on for saying this...the Rams would have won more games since Bradford's injury against Carolina in 2013 with Tebow starting than the guys we started since then. And I think we'd have had a winning season in 2014 and/or 2015.
Not hated on just don't see how that is plausible.
Tebow was terrible in 2011, comp % was around 46%. He had Demaryous Thomas and Eric Decker to throw to. We didn't have anything like that here.
It was a magic carpet ride Denver had a ton of luck. They lost their last 3 games and made the playoffs at 8-8
As bad as our QB were at throwing the ball we'd ask, how could you do worse. Well with Tebow I'd say, hello worse
 

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he was a project player with mad intangibles. Always was. McDaniel did a disservice to him drafting him in the 1st. And Elway should have kept him, as he could be starting this year in Denver, after years of developing under Peyton.

He would have been better for the Rams as well, instead of the other backup qbs the past few years. You say the D bailed him out, but they still won....

Saying he is crap.... He lead the entire league in QBR in the 4th quarter as a rookie, had like 7 game winning drives one season.... the guy threw for 300 yards vs the #1 d in the playoffs. Has more playoff wins then Bradford, and is far tougher.

im still amazed no team ever really bought into developing him besides Denver. Especially in such a QB needy league.

I agree with the bolded part.

I rate Tebow as a below average QB..... but there are still worse options out there. He would have easily done better for us than Nick Foles last year, IMO. If nothing else, at least Tebow would have been a running threat.

I'm surprised he is already out of the league. He's better than some other guys out there. Admittedly, you don't want those guys on your roster, either. But the league is QB starved. There simply aren't enough good ones to go around. Some teams are going to have a dud, even if only in a backup role.

Based on talent alone, it's odd Tim Tebow hasn't been given a shot in the past few years anywhere, in any capacity, for even any low wage. I think the media circus is to blame. If you're dealing with below average QBs anyway, I'm sure lots of organizations would rather just look elsewhere.
 
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I don't care if I get hated on for saying this...the Rams would have won more games since Bradford's injury against Carolina in 2013 with Tebow starting than the guys we started since then. And I think we'd have had a winning season in 2014 and/or 2015.
Everything you said was correct but not Tebow, close but no cigar!

View: https://youtu.be/15BjNDW5b0s
 

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Not hated on just don't see how that is plausible.
Tebow was terrible in 2011, comp % was around 46%. He had Demaryous Thomas and Eric Decker to throw to. We didn't have anything like that here.
It was a magic carpet ride Denver had a ton of luck. They lost their last 3 games and made the playoffs at 8-8
As bad as our QB were at throwing the ball we'd ask, how could you do worse. Well with Tebow I'd say, hello worse

The Broncos went 8-5 with Tebow that year counting the playoffs.

How is it plausible? Tebow's game isn't accuracy or consistency. That wouldn't be where he stood out here. What Tebow did in Denver was essentially act as a decoy for the running game, manage the game (not throw a ton of back-breaking picks), and create big plays. In 2011, he posted 19 TDs to 12 turnovers in 13 starts. Are those great numbers? No. But Tebow was an effective deep ball passer and a dangerous runner. He's a big reason why the Broncos had the #1 rushing attack in the NFL that year and Willis McGahee had a great year out of nowhere.

Frankly, our QBs in 2014 and 2015 sucked anyways. Were they better passers than Tebow? Yes. But they were still among the worst (if not the worst) in the NFL as passers. So there wasn't really any net gain relative to other teams. What Tebow would have given us is a decoy who opened things up in a major way for our rushing attack. Which was our bread and butter in 2015. It's not like our defense needed a lot of scoring. All they needed was a QB who wouldn't turn the ball over a ton, throw a bunch of pick sixes, and could put some points on the board.

Tebow is an effective enough deep ball passer to do damage off of play-action and he would have opened up running lanes for our backs. Kind of like Tavon Austin did when we used him as a decoy on those jet sweeps and end-arounds.

Essentially, with Tebow at QB, we would have been in a position where we had a stronger rushing attack and a QB who was hurting us less with turnovers. Our passing attack still would have sucked but it sucked anyways in 2014 and 2015. If you think about it, we were 2 wins away from a winning season in 2015 and 3 wins away from a winning season in 2014. And we lost a bunch of games each of those years late which is where Tebow shined.

I'm certainly not upset because all that sucking led us to Goff which is absolutely worth it. But I do think we'd have won more games with Tebow or any other Tebow-caliber run-first QB who could avoid throwing a bunch of interceptions.

That's one area where I agree with @Memphis Ram that NFL teams are wasting QB skill-sets by not giving certain athletic guys a chance. If I had a quality thrower, I wouldn't either. But the team's with the worst QBs in the NFL are stupid not to adjust their system and use an athletic QB to open up the rushing attack. Their passing attack won't win them game either ways. If they were smart, they'd find an athletic guy who can rack up rushing yards and keep his interceptions low and then go run heavy. That would be a good temporary solution to their QB problem. Or, at minimum, it would put them in no worse of a situation than they would have been in with a bad QB starting.

Everything you said was correct but not Tebow, close but no cigar!

View: https://youtu.be/15BjNDW5b0s


Nah. Pryor is an even less effective passer than Tebow and a turnover machine. He doesn't fit the role Tebow would have had here.
 

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Good Gawd I cant wait for football season to start, so we can stop arguing about Tim Tebow for a few months
 

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If I'm not wrong, 32 teams have had a shot at him...All have passed on the killer opportunity...That's really about all I need to know about it...
 

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Not hated on just don't see how that is plausible.
Tebow was terrible in 2011, comp % was around 46%. He had Demaryous Thomas and Eric Decker to throw to. We didn't have anything like that here.
It was a magic carpet ride Denver had a ton of luck. They lost their last 3 games and made the playoffs at 8-8
As bad as our QB were at throwing the ball we'd ask, how could you do worse. Well with Tebow I'd say, hello worse


Thomas and Decker were no names at that point (yes they both flourished under Manning)....They actually traded their #1 receiver, Lloyd (who led the NFL in receiving yrds in 2010 but had a a bad locker room rep), to us early on when they thought the season was a bust.

As for losing 3 in row that was after winning 6 in a row.
 

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If I'm not wrong, 32 teams have had a shot at him...All have passed on the killer opportunity...That's really about all I need to know about it...

If I'm not wrong, all 32 teams have passed on quite a few guys who ended up proving them wrong before.
 

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If I'm not wrong, all 32 teams have passed on quite a few guys who ended up proving them wrong before.
A person could point to players in every draft I suppose. Guys that were drafted late and turned out to be good players. In Tebows case there is just the reality of what he is.